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post #61 of 355
So glad I have other women to talk to about being sick and all the other wonderful things pregnancy brings.

We aren't going to do an u/s unless there is a very good reason to do one. I can't wait to hear the heartbeat though.
With my m/c that lasted to 7wks I just knew he was a boy. I'm 7wks today and have no real feelings either way. Part of me has thought of twins. We will know soon enough.

We have no boy names yet.
Our girl names so far are...
Kaia Marie
Erin Aletha
post #62 of 355
I am totally for finding out the sex. We didn't the first two times, but did with Bridget. I thought it was much better knowing. Plus, logistics come into play. We are finishing decorating the house, and the baby's sex is going to play a role in decisions about room space and whatnot. Either way, I will be thrilled at the delivery, so I see no need to keep it suspensful.....I don't like surprises anyway!!


I don't know about names..I liked Isabelle, but now I see that it is in the top 10. I hate that. So I don't know....


I am in a bad mood today, I went to my regular playgroup for my neighborhood. A bunch of the mothers were standing around making fun of people who breastfeed their babies past the age "the child can make it known they want it". What??? How stupid. They all know I nursed my kids over two years....I am sort of the weird mom who nursed her toddlers and gives that herbal stuff. Plus my kids don't ahve all their vaccines....Ugh.

Of course, whose kids are sick every week?? And whose kids have had one 12 hour stomache virus this winter????


Okay..vent over...

caroline
post #63 of 355
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I am sort of the weird mom who nursed her toddlers and gives that herbal stuff. Plus my kids don't ahve all their vaccines....Ugh.
Caroline, that's me in my neighborhood. It does get tiring being the weirdo but we know we're doing what's right for our families!!
post #64 of 355
I joined a mothering group for a while they have a lot of play groups during the week in my neighborhood. Well, I dropped out because they were very anti-breastfeeding. I don't mind being part of a group that doesn't exist for the purpose of being probfing, but I'm not going to be part of a group that actively slams it!! We have to run into them at the parks all the time and they drive me so crazy!!! The mothers just get together to talk and pay NO attention to their kids whatsoever. The kids run wild and knock over all the toddlers around - okay, I'll stop venting now. I just wish I had a huge group of cool mamas around here!
post #65 of 355
Ugh. I don't join playgroups for the breastfeeding either..I just wish people would look at facts. Or research it yourself. I think as a rule, parents spend more time researching their new cars that they do matters that affect their kids. Like, vaccines. I am not anti-vaccine. BUT, there are some that are NOT NECCASARY. Who cares if your kids gets chicken pox?? It will give then a life long immunity if you deal with it once. But some of these people run out and shoot up their kids without even knowing what it is!!!! I was told I am crazy for having a fourth baby. No, I am blesses 4 times over and I ENJOY my kids. Okay, I am rambling. Obviously I am worked up over this...

Caroline
post #66 of 355
My two cents about vaccination: why the he** would you vaccinate a wee babe against hepatitis b just as a regular course of action?!

I feel blessed to work in a community with a lot of people who think about these issues. We have a number of people who have not vaccinated their children and that is permitted in our school if they have a notarized conscientious objector status on their vaccination forms. One of my second graders has had all of his childhood diseases and the only thing different about him is that he's a little smaller and his teeth are slow (he's just losing his first teeth now and darn, is he cute with no top teeth and only 1 bottom one!). Of course, that might just be him and have nothing to do with his vaccination status! I just know that the kids are my school are healthy as horses. Many were nursed up until the start of two-day Kindergarten (3-1/2 years old), some were even nursed that year still. We also have a lot of folks who believe in rich foods and raw milk. These children are so incredibly healthy, it makes me question the head epidemiologist of the state of MN whom I met once and who told me that families who feed their children raw milk products are "crazy".

One thing that is difficult for me is that my best friend has become an allopathic doctor who is very pro-vaccine. She recommends the chickenpox vaccine to all new parents as well, because she says there just aren't enough 'wild' strains of chickenpox anymore to guarantee that kids are going to catch it while they're young. Well gee, I wonder why that is?! Perhaps because all these kids are getting immunized against it?!!! Imagine that poor little baby getting mmr, dpt, chickenpox, polio and hep b all at one appointment!!! I could never do it to my own child. We'll go in every other week for one shot if need be.

Does anyone here have experiences demanding vaccines not preserved in thimerosal for their children? Supposedly they are all available, but it always seems to be an uphill battle.

Our names:

Tristan James for a boy; Tristan we both just really like and James for Jo's beloved black sheep Uncle Jimmy;

girl name is still up in the air, first name either Alexa or Alexandra, middle name probably Constance. Alexa always reminds me of Billy Joel's song "The Downeaster Alexa" from the album Storm Front, which we always listen to on the car while driving up north to our favorite vacation spot. Constance is for Jo's mom's best friend (aka Jo's aunt) Connie.

Shannon I hope your meeting went all right and I'm flattered that you liked Bedlam so much

My tummy has... been... *shhhh* mostly ok today.

In hopes that that's a good sign!

xo, jen
post #67 of 355
I NEED A STEAK......meduim rare...with plenty of A-1 on the side....


Ugh. I am reading pregnant woman trashy "novels"...the TGI Fridays online menu....

I wish I knew how to turn this darn BBQ on!!!!!


Caroline
post #68 of 355
I love hearing other people's name choices!
We have lists, but really have no ideas. One thing I have always been insistant on is that the name is not in the top 25 (of course unless it's something like Mary or John, which of course are classics).
My husband wants Rex for a boy, but I am adamantly opposed!
post #69 of 355
Thread Starter 
Jen,

I have a stupid question, but nobody make fun of me for asking....

Why do you have a 75% chance of having a boy just because you used frozen sperm? Ive been thinking about it and I just cant figure it out.
post #70 of 355
Thread Starter 

names

We havent really started talking about names yet. I have lists from previous pregnancies, but I dont know that Ive found the "perfect" one though.

Some girl names I like are: Avery, Abigail, Jillian, Willow, Karina...

boy names I like would be: Spencer, Reid, Ashton, Micah, Callum...

I dont know that this baby will be named any of those though.

I love everyone elses names! Especially Tanner for a girl, Shannon and Shiva is beautiful as well, Heather.
post #71 of 355
Thread Starter 

playgroups

Caroline,

You know what, I used to go to a playgroup that sounds JUST like yours! I had been going for about 3 years, in fact, I even helped one other girl form it, but I stopped going in Nov. 03 because I just couldnt stand being around the other girls anymore. It would make me feel physically ill to even think about going, needless to say I feel much better now that I dont have to deal with them anymore.

I felt they they were always "picking on me" because of the choices I make. Like the fact that Paityn still nurses, that I stayed at home to labor with her instead of going to the hospital, that shes not vaccinated, even that I delayed solids. One girl has even told me that I am wrong to do these things and since they all go along with the mainstream, they would just basically agree with her.

I really realized that they were not real friends to me after I miscarried and no one even called to say they were sorry.

Anyways, I guess that thats why I hang out on Mothering so much....I have no one IRL that I really have much in common with.
post #72 of 355
Thread Starter 
Jen,
It sounds like you live in a GREAT area. I envy you.

We are very lucky here in Texas because we recently were given the option of a conscientious exemption for vaxes. This just became available in 03 and it really makes me feel better. I was wondering what I would do about some of the vaccines that I just cant imagine having Paityn get. She is so healthy right now, only been sick once in 2 years and I dread the thought of having to put anything in her body that could hurt her.
post #73 of 355

Long conception story w/ answer to Lynsey's question

Lynsey - not a stupid question AT ALL! How would we ever learn if we didn't ask questions? (At least that's the way my dental hygienist put it when she quizzed me about my whole quest to parent! I swear, we spent more time talking about babies than my teeth...)

It actually isn't just the freezing alone - it's the combination of frozen sperm and intrauterine insemination (IUI). I think most of us know that xx (girl) sperm are stronger in the long run (or perhaps the long swim?), whereas xy (boy) sperm swim faster but are weaker and die quicker. The combination of freezing and then IUI deals the sperm a really difficult situation. #1, because of the freezing, their life span is cut to a max of 24 hours. #2, because you bypass the protective cervical fluids during IUI and dump the sperm directly into the uterus, which is a hostile environment, it shortens their life span even more - to an average of 8 hours total. I don't know if IUI with fresh sperm has this short short life span - I don't think that it does.

The 8-hour window really makes the long-term swimming strength of the xx sperm moot. If you've got that little time, the fastest swimmers are going to be the ones who get to the egg before dying. And... voila! Your chances of a boy increase exponentially.

I was very lucky on the Dec. insem - I think it was more than luck, though. I had had a hard time getting into the fertility/ttc "state of mind" - wasn't taking my prenatals, was having a glass of wine with dinner every night, all that good stuff they tell you to avoid to improve your fertility... and worst of all, I was totally forgetting to check my pee for an LH surge! With my HMO you have to call in by 1:30 the day of your surge to have an insem the next morning. On 09 Dec I totally spaced and remembered that I hadn't checked at about 2:15, which was too late. I thought in the evening I should check to be sure I hadn't missed it and got the darkest LH surge line I had ever seen. My insem was on 11 Dec which was a minimum of 36 hours after I surged... you're supposed to ovulate 12-40 hours after a surge with a supposed "average" of 24. So I thought my chances were slim to none of conceiving, but the sperm was at the clinic, so I figured we should at least try.

Now keep the quote "coincidence? I think not." in your head. The morning of my insem I:

Woke up w/o alarm clock with plenty of time to have a relaxing morning before driving to my 8AM insem. I usually hit snooze several times and ended up running crazy and late.

Found $2 in the front of my wallet that I didn't know I had, so I didn't have to raid the change jar for parking money at the clinic. Normally I woke Jo up doing this.

There was gorgeous mist coming off of Lake Calhoun, a lake I pass on my way to the clinic. It really soothed my mind.

I found a parking spot immediately - first time ever!

I was calm and relaxed with *warm hands* which was totally out of the ordinary.

I was having Mittelschmerz (ovulation sensation) on my left side when I got there.

I think that the baby was messing with my head to get me to forget to check my pee so that he/she could be conceived! It was try #5.

And that, my dears, is a terribly long post about the trials and tribulations of ttc with frozen sperm and iui. If you've been through it, thank God you're here, and if you haven't, I hope you never have to! It's so hit or miss. Glad we finally hit!!

JEN.
post #74 of 355

mothering/parent-toddler groups

I would encourage all of you mamas who are fed up with these mainstream moms who diss everything you stand for to seriously see if there is a Waldorf school or pre-school in your area. Even if you don't enroll your children there I can guarantee that you will find like-minded mamas in those communities.

Lynsey I'm sorry to say there's not one in the DFW area the only one is in Austin. But there may be preschool initiatives near you.

Also if any of you belong to or shop at natural food co-ops and they have occasional newsletters you could run a little ad that you're looking for like-minded playgroup members... or just see who you meet in the produce section.

Yes, I am very lucky to live in a tremendously forward-thinking area.

My first and original baby - Sydney the fluffy orange cat - is here and sends funny twittering greetings to you all, except maybe not to Shannon's dogs.

I'm done for tonight, really.

Jen
post #75 of 355
I belong to two playgroups. The one in my neighborhood is definatly for the kids. Bridget attends that one with me when Lilly is in school. So she gets a lot out of it, and I lioke that for her. My second playgroup is a weird mix. I have made some wonderful friends there and I would not give them up for anything. For the most part they are very mainstream, except for a couple (one who has been lurking around here). I am lucky to have found them. It is just frustrating when I feel like I know better, but no one will listen....

Anyway, we have a great support system here...I wish some of you all lived in Pennsylvania!!

Oh, and the pregnacy is going well....(got to stay on topic!!)

Caroline
post #76 of 355
Thread Starter 

waldorf schools

I wish there one was in my area - that would be wonderful! Riley will be going to a Montessouri school next year for kindergarden, not really the same thing, but thats as good as it gets around here. (I dont really live in Ft Worth, actually in a small town about 35 miles out). Ive heard GREAT things about it, but Im nervous that its just another private school for rich moms who dont want to send their kids to a Christian school - thats all there is here: public schools, Montessouri and Christian Cornerstone Academy. We will be the poorest ones there I am just being insecure and stupid, I know.

Also a girl that already has her kid there told me that several of the local Drs kids go there - that really bugs me to be honest because it is the local OB/GYN who I know and dont like, the hospitals anesthesiologist, an ENT..........Bleh.
post #77 of 355
Thread Starter 
Jen,

Wow! You tried the artificial insem. 4 times before this?!? Congratulations again! Thanks for the explaination. Now it makes sense to me!

I had a cousin who tried that a few times, but was unable to get pregnant. Finaly after over 5 years they gave up and she became pregnant the old fashioned way! Her son is 5 years old now and theyve been tc since his birth with no luck again. Very strange!
post #78 of 355
Crap, I said I was done, didn't I?

Montessori can be really good! If it's true Montessori. I admire the work of Maria Montessori. I just don't understand why some Montessori teachers twist her work. We actually share a building with a Montessori school. Unfortunately we don't get along too well.

I implore anyone who is researching Waldorf education to not take Dan Dugan's website (waldorfcritics.org) as a serious view of Waldorf. It's so full of untruths and opinion. The equivalent would be to judge all gay or lesbian people by basing your judgement on what the Rev. Fred Phelps has to say (formerly at godhatesfags.com, but no longer...).

Really, I swear I'm finished!

Jen
post #79 of 355
Thread Starter 
Jen,

Honestly Im not sure if this is "true" Montessouri or not. Im actually going to observe the class tomorrow at 9:30 AM so hopefully Ill get a better idea. (You have to observe before your child can go).

Ill let you know how it goes!
post #80 of 355
Hi There Ladies!

Thank you all for the encouragement and support. Following my last ridiculous and amusing post I realized that I was in need of a mental health day.
So I spent the whole day at home yesterday in my jammies and it was awesome! I actually had meaningfull conversations with my husband, helped organize our finances and got some housework done.
i felt bad about taking the day off, but decided it just needed to happen. Felt like i finally had the head space in which to really think about some important things, like where we are gonna live when the baby is born and how long i need to stay at work and how in the world do we get my husband through the last semester of school that he needs in order to be a teacher. (My job provides his tuition) Yikes! lots of figure out!

Well we didn't come up with answers, but at least had meaningfull heart to heart talks about these pressing issues. It seems like i am consistently too tired by time i get home to even think coherently.

Feeling pretty good today, eating well and enjoying my cute little tummy. I think I am beginning to show and am amazed by how quickly by body is changing! (I hope i'm not having TWINS!) Am already wearing some maternity clothes, mostly cause it is so much more comfortable than my regular stuff. Have had to remove a bunch of clothes from my closet that isn't gonna fit on my body for a long time. (If ever)

Ah well work beckons, I must go sort some mail.

Love and kisses for all

Anna
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