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post #201 of 338
ugh. that seems like way too much homework to me.

i know that schools vary widely on how much homework is given. the school noah goes to had almost no homework in first grade. they had a couple of projects over the course of the year that they were given about a week or so to complete. they weren't big deals at all, more fun than anything, and that was it. i was pleased with that. now, in second grade, he is given a little bit more, but not much. so far it has just been one assignment per night, if that. even that feels like too much sometimes b/c he doesn't even get home until 4pm.

how do you feel kami? how does your dd feel about it?
post #202 of 338
SoCaliMommy---And that homework isn't for the whole week? When my DD brings home her 1st grade homework packet, it's for the whole week. She gets it on Friday and it's due the next Thursday. It is about the amount of HW you listed. For one day, that would be, uhhh, OPPRESSIVE to say the least.

Here, my kids just entered a 3-week break, because it's a year-round school and started in July. (Weird.) Honestly, I'm feeling a wee bit panicky about how to fill the three weeks. But today we went to the Long Beach Aquarium and it was actually FUN to be with the kids. We all actually ENJOYED it, OMG, it was like the old days before we were SO burned out on HSing and each other. SoCaliMommy---Have you been to the Aquarium? The new shark lagoon is way cool. But anyway, I'm enjoying the kids, because I know that it's only for three weeks, not the eternity of a whole relatively empty (un)school year stretching out ahead. Funny, how school is making me enjoy my kids again because we get a break from each other.

Now, if only I could get a break from the little two once in a while......

Ruthla---I hope the homework stress eases up for you soon! I really feel for you. We have a much easier situation. Do you think it's getting any easier now, or it the same, or getting harder? Do you ever think about hiring a school-based tutor to help your kids get more of their work done at school? Are there any free periods for doing homework? By the way, I hope you have had a wonderful and contemplative Yom Kippur.
post #203 of 338
Gosh that is a lot, my dd aged 9 brings that much home!

My ds aged 5 brings home some sounds and words to learn and a reading book that is wordless that he is to read through twice with me- takes about 10 minutes in total. I am not sure how much he will be bringing home when he is 6 but I don't think it will be too much (I hope)
post #204 of 338
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Let the homework struggle begin

Alex brought home the 1st homework packet today, I could had sworn they wouldn't be starting it til after back to school night.

Monday is ~
Laguage Arts- Copy spelling words and dictation sentence.
there are 10 spelling words she has to copy each 3 times plus write the sentence 2 times.
Memorize Poem for poetry test on friday
A-P-P-L-E
There was an orchard with a tree,
And apples grew upon it.
A-P-P-L-E, A-P-P-L-E,A-P-P-L-E,
And apples grew upon it.
(Tune: B-I-N-G-O)

Math pages 3 &4
each page has 10 problems total

Read "Tam The Cat" and another book for 15mins
Tam The Cat consists of :
Mat
Tam Cat Sat
Tam Cat sat,sat,sat

mark off how many minutes read and parent signs off when they finish that days homework.

The reading sounds like a reasonable amount to have each day. PITA to fill out reading logs, but 15 minutes a day for 1st graders does sound reasonable. Memorizing the little poem doesn't sound too bad either.

But that sounds like WAY too much handwriting to do all that LA plus all that math! I know DS would have struggled with that, especially after a whole day of school.

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Originally Posted by freestyler View Post
Ruthla---I hope the homework stress eases up for you soon! I really feel for you. We have a much easier situation. Do you think it's getting any easier now, or it the same, or getting harder? Do you ever think about hiring a school-based tutor to help your kids get more of their work done at school? Are there any free periods for doing homework? By the way, I hope you have had a wonderful and contemplative Yom Kippur.
The homeworks seems to be getting easier for DD2. She still needs me around when doing the work, but she's doing more on her own and needing less help for each little thing. She's definitely gotten the social studies work down- it's still fairly time consuming, but the teacher gives the whole week's assingment at once so she can organize her time fairly well. She's frustrated knowing that her classmates have all weekend to work on it, but she has to fit it in during the school week due to all the holidays.

Math is still a lot of work because her class is "reviewing" what she's learning for the first time. So I basically have to teach algebra every night. My guess is that things will get easier in another month or so when they finish "reviewing" and go onto new material- then the pace should slow down. Alternatively, she'll do poorly on the first few exams and drop down to easier math. Either way, things should get easier in another month or so. Plus, she'll be less pressed for time after the holidays end.

She can stay 9th period to do homework with the teacher available to help, but she doesn't like that. She wants to do work at home, with me to help her. And I'm capable of helping her, as long as I organize my time so I'm available.

Both girls were incredibly grumpy about having to get up early for school today after fasting yesterday. DD1 was especially upset about it, seeing how, had she gone to a Jewish school this year, she might have had today off.

ETA: I just checked the online school calendar for one of the local Jewish schools. She would have had school today anyway.
post #205 of 338


freestyler~ Alex brings home her homework packet on Mondays and turns it in Friday. That was just one days worth of homework.

chrissy~ I thought it was a little much. She struggled with writing the words 3x each and copying the sentence 2times, so much so that we both got frustrated and i had her only do 3 spelling words and dh got home and helped her with the rest of the spelling words.


post #206 of 338
All that writing would have annoyed Noah too, maybe not as much this year (2nd grade), but last year he would have absolutely hated it.

Today was a strange day for me. For the past few weeks I have been really really wanting to homeschool- spending a lot of time thinking about it, reading about it online, talking about it with friends, bringing it up with dh, and just generally really really being excited about the idea. But then today I really was grateful for school. This morning nobody fussed about going- even Rowan, who is just going 2 mornings a week from 9-12, didn't complain. Then I had a nice break. I enjoyed the quiet. Hmmmmm. I guess that's why I'm giving this decision a while.
post #207 of 338
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The school dd1 attends doesn't have transportation, the kids walk or parents drive. For K parents need to drop off and pick up AT THE CLASS DOOR. I would freak out if my K dd1 was pulled out of class w/ o an immediate reason given to me either via a phone call that day or a note when I pick her up. One of the horror stories I heard from a hs parent was how the school tried to put their 7 yr old dd on ADD medication w/o the parents consent.
that could never ever ever in a million years ever ever happen. The school nurse can't even give TYLENOL without it being in a prescribed bottle, with dosage from a pharmacy.
post #208 of 338
When did things become so danged SERIOUS? When I was growing up, the school nurse could give out Tylenol and stuff, like if you had cramps and junk. Sheesh.
post #209 of 338
Kids also cannot take over the counter medication with them to school. Even my 13 year old can't have something for cramps with her. Sure this policy makes sense for a 5 year old, but a 13 year old?

In other goofy news, my 11 year old (6th grader) is getting ready to start a Basic Abstinence Program. I have so many problems with this that I could write a novel, and explained them to her. However, I left the final choice up to her (as is in line with my parenting values) and she wants to go because there is a party at the end. The only good thing about it so far is they will send home sheets that she and I *must* discuss and then I have to sign, so I will have lots of opportunities to share my views.

I really hate the idea of sex being presented as something scary that will kill you, so that only penis/vigina counts as sex, or that sex is only OK in marriage (which just seems like religion dressed up as science). Or that there are two options -- no sex or lots of stupid sex -- I really think there is a middle path.
post #210 of 338
I'm not worried about sex ed in school. I figure I've already covered most of what they're going to teach in school, and probably MORE than they're teaching, with my own values instilled. If DD2 has some interesting tidbits from her "health class" (which so far has covered "financial health" and then she had to make up a poster about "healthy decisions"- she chose exercise) we can discuss them together. We've already covered "This is what the Torah says to do; if you choose otherwise then here's how to keep yourself safe."

DD2 seems to be settling in nicely. She's having no trouble in math- when they had some time to do homework in class, she was as fast as her classmates. I think part of the problem at home is dawdling, stopping to chat about random stuff, etc, not actual difficulty doing the work itself. Last night she got 2/3 of her weekly Social Studies done. The same project that took her about 2-3 hours a night to do a little bit the first week, she got nearly done in about 3 focused hours. It's a short week, due to all the holidays (no school Monday, and then she can't do any homework over the weekend because it's Succos) but it looks like she has things under control.

And, for the first time this year, DD1 forgot her lunch. I dropped it off at her school after driving DD2 to the middle school.
post #211 of 338
I'm an RN and I have worked some in the public schools. It may seem trivial for an RN to not be able to give out Tylenol (or some other otc med), but you really have to understand some of these parents and students, I have worked with so many parents that keep their kids doped up constantly on Benedryl all day long, among other things. I worked in a pediatric ICU for 2 years and I can't TELL you have many times I saw OTC drugs kill or seriously injure children or parents or children abuse them (cough syrups, a kid bleed out from a dose of motrin, some of these parents will seriously shock your socks off with what they do, and these are parents you would NEVER suspect---upper to middle class or "rich" people, etc).

So no, I won't just give a child some Tylenol (or whatever), especially without knowing their past medical history, etc. I am not going to put myself and my license on the line for even "Tylenol" to a child I really don't know (how do I know when they last took a dose and how much was it)--people are too sue happy. I have seen too much, too many horror stories, involving just "simple" otc drugs anymore.

I know it kinda seems silly and stuff, but I didn't realize some of these issues until I had experienced them. And then if, say, my dd bring tylenol to school for cramps and gives some to another girl who has already taken some or whatever and has ANY rxt (which happens more than you realize)....then it comes back onto the parent and also the school. I hope that kinda makes sense why it's all so strict anymore.

And no, no school is going to just put some child on ADD/ADHD meds, or ANY meds for that reason...I don't believe that for a second. Schools don't just have a pharmacy off in the corner or a doctor lurking the halls giving out prescriptions, those meds require a MD/NP/PA prescription. That is some some made up hs'ing horror story we all have probably heard sometime.
post #212 of 338
Not to mention that some kids react to "inert" ingredients in OTC meds. If you'd given DD2 or DS bright red liquid Tylenol, they'd be bouncing off the walls for at least a few hours, if not days. I only have the dye-free kind at home.

What's funny is how private schools are different than public schools in this regard. The private school DS used to go to had a waiver I could sign to give the school nurse permission to medicate him (and a list to check off which meds I was OK with her giving him.) I didn't sign it, mainly because of the "inert" ingredient issue. But there was one time when she called me saying DS "is a little under the weather" and gave me a choice: I could come pick him up, or she could give him a dose of Motrin and send him back to class. I picked him up!

The only thing about the "zero tolerance drug policies" that really bothers me is the fact that a teenager can't bring medication to school for personal use. I used to keep motrin in my purse for menstrual cramps when I was in high school. So far my daughters haven't needed that (DD1 doesn't really get cramps and DD2 hasn't gotten AF yet) but what if they did? I can't just write a note for the school nurse: I have to get a doctor to write a note for the school nurse, even for OTC meds! Now, THAT I think is rediculous. I don't see why it's not enough for me to supply a bottle of motrin or alleve and a signed note, and leave the meds and note with the school nurse.

I am, however, allowed to go to the school, sign DD out, give her a dose of medication, then sign her right back in. : Not that either child has called from the nurse's office requesting this, but that's permitted under the school rules.
post #213 of 338


Anyone else's child already sick?

Alex has been in school 2wks and is starting to get a cough

post #214 of 338
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Anyone else's child already sick?

Alex has been in school 2wks and is starting to get a cough

No, but dh came home from a business trip sick and now I think I am getting it. I hope dd gets through all her tests this week before she does!
post #215 of 338
DD1 and DD2 seem healthy enough, but DS is just getting over a mild virus and I have it now. Unless it's just my fibromyalgia acting up and not a virus at all. Who knows? All I know is I've been tired and achey and dizzy.
post #216 of 338
Kids and I have all been sick.

My 12 year old isn't adjusting to school very well. She has sensory issues and is just overwhelmed. The work itself isn't a problem and now she's figured out how to keep it all organized, but the press of people and the noise are getting to her. I'm not sure what would be best for her, as homeschooling here is super isolating.

My 11 year old loves and school and just made cheerleader! They just cheer for basketball (little 6th grade girls cheering for little 6th grades boys, while the feminist in me is in shock, I think it's going to be very cute!). She's also in the service club, chess club, and girl scouts.

I'm happy to know that the kids both do fine accademically after only being homeschooled and I'm suprized how much their basic personalities are showing up in how well they cope with school.
post #217 of 338
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My 12 year old isn't adjusting to school very well. She has sensory issues and is just overwhelmed. The work itself isn't a problem and now she's figured out how to keep it all organized, but the press of people and the noise are getting to her. I'm not sure what would be best for her, as homeschooling here is super isolating.
My now 11! yr old has similar issues with the crowds at school. That is one of several reasons that we homeschool half-time and she only goes to school for a half-day. She loves school but still tells me - Mom, I couldn't stand to be there all day. I don't know if part-time is an option for you, since policies vary so much from place to place. But it might be something to look into if your dd doesn't seem to adapt soon.

Does your dd get overwhelmed at amusement parks too? Mine loves to go but is always ready to leave by lunch time! LOL
post #218 of 338
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Does your dd get overwhelmed at amusement parks too? Mine loves to go but is always ready to leave by lunch time! LOL
My DD likes Sea World, but amusements parks that focus on rides just don't work for her.
post #219 of 338
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The only thing about the "zero tolerance drug policies" that really bothers me is the fact that a teenager can't bring medication to school for personal use. I used to keep motrin in my purse for menstrual cramps when I was in high school.
Ya I totally get ya. What I plan to do (especially for things like cramps and headaches) is go see our Dr before the school year starts and just have her write a scrip for some motrin and leave that in the nurses office (cheaper than buying it otc as well). A lot of parents do this and it works well.
post #220 of 338
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Ya I totally get ya. What I plan to do (especially for things like cramps and headaches) is go see our Dr before the school year starts and just have her write a scrip for some motrin and leave that in the nurses office (cheaper than buying it otc as well). A lot of parents do this and it works well.
Where we live kids have to have a school physical, so getting a script at the same time would make sense as long as parents remember to do so.

I talked to the school social worker today about my 12 year old. She's going to touch bases with all of my DD's teachers and see how they think things are going, and try to facilitate some friendships for my DD.

I also put a call into the only private school in the area that isn't religious. I have resevations about it, though. It is an 8 hour day and I've heard that it's very competitive accademically. Even though it would be smaller and quieter, I don't know that it would lower her stress level.

Another option I've though of is a new tutoring center that has opened this year. If we go back to homeschooling, I'm thinking of having DD do all the subjects there that they tutor, and just do the other subjects at home. (I'm very burned out on homeschoooling).
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