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post #281 of 338
Kami, Parenting is not for wimps is it? I suppose the silver lining is that if you want to homeschool her your December discussions will be very informed. Knowing what you do now you can discuss quite a few specifics and address how you can better meet her long- and short-term needs at home. Homeschooling offers great amounts of flexibilty and hordes of responsibility. Any evaluations you get through school now will identify areas needing attention. The flip side is that what is a problem for an institution handling hundreds of children may not be such a big deal at home. How does Alex feel about school when she gets home or at other points in her day? This part of the equation can mean as much actual academic performance.
post #282 of 338

mommajb~Thanks for the hugs. She loves school and is mostly happy about going. She is sad though sometimes when coming home, they have a class pet it's a stuffed animal named LuLu and she hasn't gotten to take it home yet and seemed sad about it. She whines some when it's time to start on homework after getting a snack.

post #283 of 338
Originally Posted by mommajb View Post
If I could find out exactly what the money is being raised for I might write a check for some dollar amount.
Last year was our first year with public school and I didn't participate in the funding raising efforts at all. This year I am. The difference for me is that I saw what they accomplished last year and now I want to be a part of it.

Our PTO picks one big project for the year and all the money goes for it. There is a goal for the dollar amount and projected plan for when the work will be done. This year we are working towards a new play ground and the hope is to have the work done over the summer so it is ready for the start of school next year.

In your situation, I wouldn't be involved.

We just had a fall festival. My girls and I put together a baking themed basket for the auction (which was a lot of fun) and we donated 2 cakes for the cake walk. I volunteered 2 hours during the festival.

Only 1 of my kids spent much time at the festival (my other DD has some special needs and doesn't enjoy things like that, so she and daddy went home early). I gave her $20 to spend and she had a blast with her friends. It was an environment where they could run around and do whatever they wanted to and be completly safe. They could go get a snack, play a game, find a quiet corner to talk. In our society, that's hard to do. Even if I didn't care about the PTO project, going to the festival was a fun experience for daughter.
post #284 of 338
oh and most home and school organizations would be quite happy for you to say 'I am not interested in participating in fundraising, but would rather write you a check for $25 (or whatever you want to give)'.
post #285 of 338
I usually don't participate in fundraising either. I'm generally the lowest-income family in the area (seeing how I'm living with my parents and most people in the school can actually afford houses in this area) so I don't feel the slightest bit obligated to contribute to "extras" when there are other families in a better position to support the PTA financially. I did join the middle school PTA, but that may well be the only money I give them this year.

Kami- I can't help but wonder if your DD would do better in Kindergarten (again?) this year instead of the first grade class. My gut feeling is that she's simply not ready for what your district considers first grade work. If keeping her in school is truly the goal, that's something I'd seriously consider, possibly even suggesting it to the school if they don't think of it first.

However, if you kinda sorta "want her to fail" so your DH will agree to homeschooling her again, you might be best off leaving her where she is for another two months.

In the meantime, you need to stick up for your child. Making her do EXTRA writing, when she's already struggling with that aspect, is only going to make things worse for her. Yes, she needs to practice handwriting, but she also needs to rest her hands and "get her wiggles out" and generally have time to be a six year old, and not spend her whole day practicing writing. If it were my child, I would let her write however much she can in 10 or 15 minutes, then let her be done for the day.
post #286 of 338
Hi, mamas. Please forgive me for not having read the whole thread.
I initially kept my ds home this year for 2nd grade. He had behavior problems in first grade and also did not qualify this year for a transfer to that same school. The scgool in our district is underacheiving, and i felt that homeschooling would be our best option. But it didn't work out well, as ds was resistant to following instructions or lessons from me and dh was anti- unschooling. So ds was doing what he wanted all day and not "doing school" at all. Both dh and ds made the decision that he would go back to public school. I agreed because he wasnt having any social interaction and spending the day arguing with me and because i was concerned about him being behind on his writing- this is his challenge and he was refusing to work with me and i worried he would fall way behind without better attention to this. I decided the school system should hopefully be better equipped to deal with his challenges than i was.

So i enrolled him at the school in our district on monday. That morning, i met with the principal, who irritated me by what seemed like ignorance and closed-mindedness. I am refering to her dismissal of my request to have him immediately tested for the gifted program. And a bunch of other stuff, but i am nak and don't want to bore you with every detail,lol.
Today i went into school with him to find out about the cafeteria,as he expressed interest in buying lunch. As i was leaving the building, the principal flagged me down and told me he is "accelerated" and that they aregoing to test him to find out what grade to put him in. I protested immediately and pointed out that he is BEHIND in writing,to which she replied that writing is no reason to hold him back and that he could be tutored for that.
Well,i am kindof freaking. I feel like ds is immature for 2nd grade and struggles socially and i worry that moving him ahead to where he would really be a "baby"- smaller and younger and much less mature than everyone would maybe guarantee him social misfit status, you know. But, he is well ahead of these 2nd graders in all academic areas except for writing. So i am kinda sick over the whole thing and sad that we couldn't make homeschooling work, and worried for my son, because the principal made it clear that acceleration is what she wants to do and arguing with her didn't seem to work well.
DH just asked me if im writing a book, so i'll stop now! just needed support...
post #287 of 338
Wow, what a cool principal! I think it is great that they have immediately identified him as needing more than his age/grade placement would offer. I totally agree that some writing issues (which often just require a little age and physical maturity to remedy) should not hold him back from pursuing academics at the level he needs. Please talk with your school and just see what they want to do. Perhaps he can stay at his grade and subject accelerate for part of the day. Perhaps they want a grade skip but with documented accommodations for his writing. See exactly what they want to offer before you freak.

Socially you may find that he fits better with kids that are closer to being his intellectual peers regardless of age or size. He may behave in a much more 'mature' manner in a class where he is engaged and learning.

We have a dd who just turned 11. She is profoundly gifted and particularly at that age she did not fit well socially with her age mates. She was great with kids a year or two or more older. She has learned to enjoy playing with her age peers along with younger kids now, but it took some time. I think it helped that we let the academics steam ahead and gave her opportunities to be in classes with older kids. She currently takes a couple of high school classes, which meant back in August she walked into classes filled with 14-17 year olds when she was 10. She fit in great. The kids like her and treat her well. I see them genuinely happy to see her and chat before class. They are not her good buddies, or hang out on the weekends, etc. that is for her group of friends outside of school who are more or less her age. It is a bit of a juggling act, but having different peer groups for academics and for play time has worked for her so far.

Check out www.nationdeceived.org for some literature on acceleration. It will give lots of positive reasons as well as many different ways to accelerate. Perhaps reading about what it may entail and what your choices could be would help. Check out www.hoagiesgifted.org for more articles. Sorry to write a book back but you may have a wonderful opportunity. It is of course important to discuss your reservations about accelerating and the school should have a plan you feel comfortable with before you allow it.

Any more specific acceleration questions?
post #288 of 338

How is everyone doing ?

post #289 of 338
waving hi as i leave the role of homeschool mom and (re)join the ranks of ps moms....
post #290 of 338

Morning Bump

post #291 of 338
Welcome Mom2PonyGirl! I don't have any specific advice for your situation- my own experience is that, in the school DS was in last year, he felt "stupid" for not being able to do all the writing they expected of him in 2nd grade. He was the youngest in the class and overall doing fairly poorly, because he just wasnt' ready for 2nd grade (at least, not the way 2nd grade was presented at that particular school.) He might have done better in 1st grade. But, then again, my son is also "behind" in reading, so pushing him ahead to a higher grade would be completely overwhelming for him. (I have him home this year, while my daughters have entered public school.)
post #292 of 338
Just checking in - Things are going pretty well so far. The boys are both enjoying school and like their teachers. We are going to the "family dance" tonight and the boys are pretty excited.

For me, it sometimes feels like ps is more overwhelming then hs was. There is a ton of stuff to keep track of and because I did not schedule the field trip, create the assignment, etc. I am having a more difficult time keeping track of everything. I do not have to monitor my 5th grader, he has been very good at keeping on top of things. But my 3rd grader has a hard time tracking the "long term" projects. In the 3 weeks he has been in ps we have had 4 long term projects assigned: memorize a poem (at least 16 lines), do a 4 paragraph report a on a planet, do a project using peeps, and do a 15 page math packet; this is on top of the regular homework!

I am also struggling with how they teach math. Everything is geared toward the testing standards. It seems like instead of mastering a concept they are always throwing more complex problems into the mix. For example my 3rd grader is working on multiplication. One of his assignments was a worksheet that substituted letters for numbers in the multiplication problem and the student had to figure out what the numbers were. It started off fairly simple (although it is an abstract concept) but by the end the problems were VERY tough and a bit confusing.

Well enough complaining for today...I just had to get it off my chest with people who also have gone from hs to ps.
post #293 of 338
My 1st grader is loving school. It really is easier for both of us.
We're trying to decide whether to homeschool or send our little one to private school next year. He misses the public kindy cut-off by 20 days, but is academically gifted. I don't know if I want to go back to homeschooling!
post #294 of 338

We are doing okay. On they 29th Alex brought home a pink card meaning exhibiting exemplary behavior for the day
But they have a test on 50words on the 23rd and if those that don't do well will be sent to another room while the other kids get a party and then on the 30th they have another quiz with the other 50words and again another party for those that do well. The have to learn to write perfectly 100 words total onto of having nightly homework

post #295 of 338
I feel so bad for your Alex! This school- or at least this teacher anyway- is such a bad fit for her learning style.

My mom's home again! She went into the hospital nearly 4 weeks ago for knee replacement surgury, and today I picked her up and brought her home! It's been an exhausting day, and I have exhausting weeks ahead of me driving her to PT 4X a week (she's not allowed to drive yet- the surgury was on her right knee). But it's so good to have her home, and I think things will be a little bit less crazy from now on- at least my running around will be during the day, and I'll be home in the afternoons after school, doing our normal evening routines. Going out to visit her took away a lot of homework time.
post #296 of 338

Ruthla~ Glad you mom is back home.

The 100 No Excuse Words on the paper under those words is says "Here are 100 words that i must always spell perfectly! "
on the back it talks about the test dates and the parties and says Sincerely,
The First Grade Team
So i think all 1st grade classes are expected to learn the words.

post #297 of 338
Originally Posted by SoCaliMommy View Post

But they have a test on 50words on the 23rd and if those that don't do well will be sent to another room while the other kids get a party and then on the 30th they have another quiz with the other 50words and again another party for those that do well. The have to learn to write perfectly 100 words total onto of having nightly homework

This strikes me as borderline abusive. How unfair to miss a party because you do not know as much as others! Honestly, I would keep her home that day. I would not want her participating in such a thing - no matter whether she knows the words and gets to party or not.
post #298 of 338
The 100 No Excuse Words on the paper under those words is says "Here are 100 words that i must always spell perfectly! "
on the back it talks about the test dates and the parties and says Sincerely,
The First Grade Team
So i think all 1st grade classes are expected to learn the words.
This would make me very angry! Spelling is very hard for some people (including my ds) and for a child to be intentionally left out for something that may not be their fault just burns me! I can not think of a quicker way to make a child DREAD spelling and tests.

I would speak with the teacher and if the teacher was unreceptive I would get in contact with other parents in the class to present a united front.
post #299 of 338

kathymuggle~ I will be keeping her out those days and am going to talk more with DH about just taking her out of school around Thanskgiving instead of waiting til December which is when we'd talk about pulling her from school *that was his compromise on me wanting to homeschool her *.

post #300 of 338
100 words to ALWAYS spell perfectly? Jeepers, I dont' know if I always spell certain words correctly! Frankly, at that age I'm far more concerned with "getting words mostly right so they're understandable" than "making them perfect every single time."

Pulling her out for Thanksgiving seems like a reasonable compromise. IMO, it means 2 more weeks of a miserable child who's being turned off to learning, but better 2 more weeks than 2 more months.

Meanwhile, my DD2 is having a hard time with her homework today. She's just not focusing well- but we figured out why. She just got her first period. : So she's crampy and cranky and generally miserable, but excited that she's growing up. She thought she got it two weeks ago, but that was just a little spotting- now she has AF for real.
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