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post #1 of 8
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So I just started this and I am on chapter three. This is a reread for me - I read it several years ago and loved it but clearly it did not stick. I completely agree with everything this guy is saying and I can see the effects in my 5YO especially. But how do you not parent the "normal" way? I don't know if I have the patience. I am more aware of how often I am controlling rather than parenting. This morning my 5YO wanted to stay in the chicken coop. I was ready to go in and hungry and tired. She can't stay by herself because she can't get the door shut alone. So I bullied, threatened, cajoled, did everything wrong. I got her in but felt awful. I really want to shift things but don't know how to deal with a willful 5YO. How does a UP deal with bedtimes and chores?

How do you go from the norm to taking these things into account? Anyone have luck with this?
post #2 of 8
OK, it's been awhile since I've read UP: But my sense is that the bottom line was: Discipline by punishment is ineffective. Kids need unconditional love. I take everything else with a grain of salt.

What I didn't like about UP was that it was dreadfully short on strategies and specific kinds of things that you can do.

In your situation, I would have looked at my child and said "I need to go in. I'm tired, cranky and hungry. I need breakfast." Period. 90% of the time, that would do the trick. If not, I would have commiserated with my child as to how hard it is to leave when you wanted to say. I would have, if needed, resorted to picking my child up and moving her out the door.

Is that UP? Probably not. But it beats the alternative - my lashing out at my child verbally and/or physically. I've learned dealing with dd, that when I hit the edge I need to leave NOW. I see red and do things I'm ashamed of. I'm working really hard on that. One strategy is to recognize my limits BEFORE I hit them, and simply draw the line. "It's time to go." Period. No discussion. I'm done. Loving my child unconditionally means that I need to be able to control myself enough not to harm them. But it also means that I need to be able to take care of myself enough so that I have the reserves to behave like an adult should.

Chores: We've struggled with this, but the situation that works the best for us is doing them right after dinner, before the kids go out to play. When the chores are done, they get to go out. Is that coercive? Probably. Does it prevent whining (on the kids' part) and yelling (on our part). Yep. In this situation the positives (learning to do real work around the house, contributing to the family in a meaningful way, learning to do things that need to be done to make a family work even when you don't feel like) outweigh the negatives (indirect coercion).

Note that this 15 minutes of chore time was something that dh and I did before the kids were born. We instituted it because we too had a hard time doing the things that needed to be done, but we didn't like to do (such as cleaning the bathroom).

Bedtime: We have a routine that's pretty inviolable. Pajamas, snacks, reading, toothbrushing, stories in bed, lights out. It's just what's expected. It's not coercive. It's just what we do. Even when we've had a terrible day, we get snacks and stories.
post #3 of 8
I find that if I make my relationship with the kids the biggest priority in my mind as I am dealing with them it is easier to find ways that make everyone happier. It involves reframing the moment to make connection the goal instead of the behavior that you want being the most important at that moment. This is something I struggle with too. (I am learning a lot from "hold on to your kids")
post #4 of 8
Keep reading! I found the last part of the book helpful and if I summarized his ideas here, I couldn't do them justice. I believe that he would say the fact that you recognize that you need to approach this differently is the first step to getting it right. A second book that may help you put his 'theories' into 'practice' is How To Talk To Your Kids So They'll Listen. . . I think these two books complement each other well, but How To is better to help imagine applying the ideas in your own words.
post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by klk197 View Post
Keep reading! I found the last part of the book helpful and if I summarized his ideas here, I couldn't do them justice. I believe that he would say the fact that you recognize that you need to approach this differently is the first step to getting it right. A second book that may help you put his 'theories' into 'practice' is How To Talk To Your Kids So They'll Listen. . . I think these two books complement each other well, but How To is better to help imagine applying the ideas in your own words.
Having read UP last year and How to Talk... recently for the first time, I really agree with this. How to Talk is also great in that I think it would win over some reluctant dps if that is an issue for you. The practicality makes it seem more doable and it does compliment UP well.
post #6 of 8
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Is this book "How to Talk so your kids will listen" by Wright or "how to talk so your kids will listen and listen so your kids will talk" by faber & mazlish?
post #7 of 8
Faber & Mazlish is the usual one that people mean.
post #8 of 8
I meant F & M. Sorry for not being more clear!
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