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post #21 of 175
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Originally Posted by alfabetsoup View Post
Wow.......just......wow. Clearly we have not known the same pot smokers.
I guess not. But the generalization that pot smokers are bad people is... Hurtfull...
post #22 of 175
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Originally Posted by SeekingSerenity View Post
PS - I'd rephrase that to say "smoking pot is harmless," rather than "pot smokers are harmless" in general. Good people AND bad both smoke, and while MJ may not be the drug that induces violent behavior, there are some violent people who use it. (just my opinion, though!! )
True, but pot does tend to reduce the chances that someone will act agressively too. There's a reason we are so nice to each other in BC.
post #23 of 175
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Originally Posted by alfabetsoup View Post
I don't understand why everyone is apologizing for this guy and suggesting the OP bake him cookies!
Thank You!

"it's second hand smoke. so it's not "harmless" -- in fact, it is harmful.

i have *no problem* with people smoking pot.

would i want to breathe a neighbor's second hand smoke. hell no.

would i want my *children* to breathe it? double hell no.

if this guy is too zoned out to be embarassed/worried that the neighbors can smell his pot smoke, he really is asking for trouble."

Exactly!

For me it is the issue of second hand smoke coming into my house. We asked what the smoking policy is before moving in because I didn't want to be around it. THIS IS A NON-SMOKING UNIT! To me that includes all smoke-cigarettes, pot, crack, etc....

I could care less if he smokes pot, I just don't want the smell saturating my house. I feel like this is reasonable.

I must say the baking suggestion did give me an idea. I will give him my best brownie recipe and suggest a smokeless mode of ingestion!
post #24 of 175
Do you know if *his* unit is non-smoking?

Assuming your lease specifies your unit is non-smoking, you might mention to your landlord that *they* could be considered in violation of the terms of your lease by failing to provide a smoke-free environment.

I don't know if that's a stretch, or not, but I would think one has a reasonable expectation to live in a smoke-free space when signing a lease on a non-smoking apartment... ESPECIALLY if you are in a completely non-smoking complex.

All that said, I would definitely try my hardest to resolve this by dealing directly with the neighbor and the landlord before involving the police.
post #25 of 175
Can you get an air purifier? Maybe that would help a bit. Otherwise, I would just talk to your neighbor again if it's really bothering you. Calling the police would not even be on my radar. But then, I've never called the cops in my life so I can't imagine doing so over a smoke smell. Unfortunately, issues like this w/neighbors are one of the downsides of apartment/townhome living.
post #26 of 175
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Yes, it is a house with just the two sides and both are non-smoking.

I am not one to run to the police. In fact I asked my brother, an attorney and former police officer for advice and he said talk to him, which I agree is the best point of action to take, but when that doesn't work, then what?

FWIW I really have nothing against pot or pot smokers in general, lack of respect for one's neighbor however, is a whole other issue.
post #27 of 175
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
Because pot smokers are harmless. The cops have real crimes to deal with and it's a waste of time, resources and tax payers money to call the cops on him.
This has not been my experience.

OP, I would call the cops if fans don't give you the relief you need. Your family doesn't need to be exposed to this for several reasons.
post #28 of 175
I think you are being totally reasonable. I would struggle with this, too, and I think your neighbor is being very inconsiderate.

A few points for consideration, in no particular order:

- As I said before, you might point out to your landlord that your neighbor is in violation of his lease, and in violating that lease it is violating YOUR expectation of a smoke-free living space.
- That said, I've never lived in non-smoking housing where *smokers* weren't allowed. It just wasn't allowed *in the house* - which meant they would go out on the front steps or balconies to smoke. If your neighbor smoked cigs instead of pot, he'd probably feel free to go outside to do it... and then what, for you? There wouldn't be much you could do aside from asking him to do it elsewhere or shutting your doors/windows. Just food for thought.
- I would probably talk to your neighbor in a totally friendly way one more time - explain that it's really bothersome, and you'd like to work together to find a solution. If he blows you off, the next time you talk to him I'd say "I don't want to have to go over your head on this, but I am going to if we can't find a permanent workable solution." While I think you should avoid going to the cops if at all possible, I don't think the threat of going to the cops would be exactly misplaced.
post #29 of 175
I don't think that "smelling" the neighbors smoke and actually sitting in second hand smoke is the same thing. The OP stated that the "smell" is bothersome. Different, IMO, and you can't control what smells may emulate from your neighbors part of the house. If he were smoking a legal tobacco cig outside, and you could smell it, would you think of running to the cops or what would you do??
post #30 of 175
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Originally Posted by philomom View Post
This has not been my experience.
You've seriously only ever met violent and dangerous pot smokers? I highly doubt that, of course you may not even be aware that someone your talking to or dealing with on a regular basis is a pot smoker, most people don't start up a conversation with "Hi, I'm _____ and I smoke weed."
post #31 of 175
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Originally Posted by Mountaingirl79 View Post
I don't think that "smelling" the neighbors smoke and actually sitting in second hand smoke is the same thing. The OP stated that the "smell" is bothersome. Different, IMO, and you can't control what smells may emulate from your neighbors part of the house.If he were smoking a legal tobacco cig outside, and you could smell it, would you think of running to the cops or what would you do??
Smoking is permitted outside. I have no problem with this....do I like it, no, not particularly, but there is a simple solution- I SHUT MY WINDOW. When it is in my house there are not a lot of options, which is where the neighbor's respectfulness comes into play. This is not a once in awhile thing (although it used to be and wasn't that big of a deal as it was usually a faint smell on the weekends) . The problem is that now, it is all the time, with several "intense" periods over the day an is the smell/smoke has now become a constant presence.

This has been since he decided to build his "home business". Hmmm, wonder what that is....

Bottom line: there is moderation and respect that goes along with being a neighbor. Playing music (that I might hate) loud enough that I can hear it-fine. So loud that it shakes my walls-not cool. I think the same reasoning fits here.
post #32 of 175
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Originally Posted by laurelg View Post
I think you are being totally reasonable. I would struggle with this, too, and I think your neighbor is being very inconsiderate.

A few points for consideration, in no particular order:

- As I said before, you might point out to your landlord that your neighbor is in violation of his lease, and in violating that lease it is violating YOUR expectation of a smoke-free living space.
- That said, I've never lived in non-smoking housing where *smokers* weren't allowed. It just wasn't allowed *in the house* - which meant they would go out on the front steps or balconies to smoke. If your neighbor smoked cigs instead of pot, he'd probably feel free to go outside to do it... and then what, for you? There wouldn't be much you could do aside from asking him to do it elsewhere or shutting your doors/windows. Just food for thought.
- I would probably talk to your neighbor in a totally friendly way one more time - explain that it's really bothersome, and you'd like to work together to find a solution. If he blows you off, the next time you talk to him I'd say "I don't want to have to go over your head on this, but I am going to if we can't find a permanent workable solution." While I think you should avoid going to the cops if at all possible, I don't think the threat of going to the cops would be exactly misplaced.
Thanks...I will talk to him again. Smoking is allowed outside. If he would smoke outside I have no problem shutting doors or window, that way at least I have an option. And in fact he does smoke cigarettes outside and I do exactly that!
post #33 of 175
I have a really stupid question, and I have always been embarrassed to ask this, but here goes.

*sucking in gut in an attempt at mustering some courage*


Can someone get high from second hand pot smoke?
post #34 of 175
Yes, contact highs can happen.

Also, if this was ciggy smoke, everybody would be screaming about protecting your family from it and that guy is the worst guy on the planet. How is this any different? Smoke is smoke, and the pot smell in my own home, when I don't partake, is completely not cool.

I wouldn't apologize, bake him anything, spend money on fans or air purifiers to cover his illegal (who cares if it's harmless or not) habit, or otherwise make excuses.

"Sir, please stop smoking up where it can come through my windows. This is your last warning before I call the landlord/police".
post #35 of 175
I'm disgusted with the number of people here who are honestly saying that calling the cops is the best solution...that's....just unspeakably disappointing to me, to see in this community of people. You wouldn't call the cops if it were cigerette smoke...you wouldn't call the cops if it were terrible smell from cooking every night. Would you? No, you wouldn't.


All that being said, OP, I completely sympathize. I have a wretched woman living above me who smokes cigarettes in the hallway and then, when I open my door, the awful smoke is sucked into my house. It's disgusting. We're counting down the days until we move into the home we're buying...for many reasons, the least of which is NOT living around cigarette smoke...we hate it, hate breathing it, smelling it, etc. We personally don't care about weed smoke, it just doesn't bother us in the least...I WISH that lady upstairs would be puffing pot instead...cigerette smoke is particularly loathsome to us....but I get, that if it bugs you it JUST DOES and no matter what kind of smoke it is, you shouldn't have to have it in your house. I totally get how annoying it is....I have this gigantic, gorgeous apartment...beautiful molding, perfect sunlight everywhere, big open windows and large rooms...it's so dreamy and I have been in love with it for years.....and this woman totally ruins our beautiful peace with her smokey grossness...it's an ambiance slayer! It doesn't feel like my home, when it's choked with her smoke.

I would tell him that the rate at which it's pouring out of his home into common areas makes you concerned that soon the cops will be involved and that you don't want that kind of drama around where you live. Explain to him that his lifestyle is his business...but that it's coming into your home and that is going to become a REAL problem for him if not rectified...I would turn as "witchy" as possible about it without creating tension in the building. You have a right to live as you please in your home...until it infringes upon another family's right to the same peaceful enjoyment.

Be clear with him....if that doesn't work, be firm and use strong language....after that point, I would send a written complaint to the property manager, citing infringement of peaceful enjoyment of the property and explain to your landlord that Mr. Smokey is in violation of his lease agreement and that you are NOT....but that further violation on the part of your smokey neighbor puts you in a really ackward position....

Look, I'm down with the green, really I am....but I'm MORE "down" with people living freely and in comfort in their own homes. This mans lifestyle choices should not be effecting the living space you are sharing with your chidren....that's not cool at all.
post #36 of 175
Hmmm, I might approach it in a collaborative manner. You neighbor wants to smoke, you want to be free from smoke. There are probably several creative solutions which would achieve both goals. Would he consider using a vaporiser instead? Would you be willing to contribute towards the cost if he is?
post #37 of 175
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Originally Posted by SquishyKitty View Post
Yes, contact highs can happen.

Also, if this was ciggy smoke, everybody would be screaming about protecting your family from it and that guy is the worst guy on the planet. How is this any different? Smoke is smoke, and the pot smell in my own home, when I don't partake, is completely not cool.

I wouldn't apologize, bake him anything, spend money on fans or air purifiers to cover his illegal (who cares if it's harmless or not) habit, or otherwise make excuses.

"Sir, please stop smoking up where it can come through my windows. This is your last warning before I call the landlord/police".
post #38 of 175
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Originally Posted by beesknees View Post
Smoking is permitted outside. I have no problem with this....do I like it, no, not particularly, but there is a simple solution- I SHUT MY WINDOW. When it is in my house there are not a lot of options, which is where the neighbor's respectfulness comes into play. This is not a once in awhile thing (although it used to be and wasn't that big of a deal as it was usually a faint smell on the weekends) . The problem is that now, it is all the time, with several "intense" periods over the day an is the smell/smoke has now become a constant presence.
This has been since he decided to build his "home business". Hmmm, wonder what that is....

Bottom line: there is moderation and respect that goes along with being a neighbor. Playing music (that I might hate) loud enough that I can hear it-fine. So loud that it shakes my walls-not cool. I think the same reasoning fits here.
Sounds like he may be growing in a closet. Does your duplex have a basement? Just wondering.

I think it is important to keep in mind that pot smoke and cigarette smoke are not the same thing. The carcinogens in "smoke" that we have all come to know about are from tobacco, not weed. A person can have a life long habit of smoking weed and they do not have the same risks for cancer and disease that a person smoking cigarettes does. The OP's family is not getting poisoned from weed smoke.

But I do agree that having to live in the constant presence of the smell is a problem. Your neighbor is being really stupid to not be concerned, weather it's his smoking habit or if he is growing, or something else.

I would also be a bit concerned that my person and clothing where picking up an odor. It's doubtful, but it's not something you want to have happening.

How is the smell coming in? Through the air ducts? Do you share the AC/heat? Maybe a really good air filter would help. Can you look into some odor fighting products?

I would continue to talk to the neighbor. I would call the landlord and really push him to do something if the neighbor will not cooperate. The landlord could lose the property if the neighbor is busted growing. I would think that would be a motivation for him to get involved at this point.

I would not call the police unless there is something that you are seeing that makes you feel unsafe.

In the end, I think your best option is to move when your lease is up. It sucks, it's not fair, but that is the way life is.

I'm sorry you have to deal with this.
post #39 of 175
OP, I would also approach the landlord from the viewpoint that, if your neighbor IS growing weed, those setups have been known to cause massive property damage. It might spur your landlord into some sort of action.
post #40 of 175
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
It's pretty easy to tell when someone is high or not. Mainly the zoned out stare, blood shot eyes and red face.
Also dead giveaways: chowing down on a big bag of Doritos and drinking a Big Gulp.
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