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post #41 of 175
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Originally Posted by JavaJunkie View Post
Also dead giveaways: chowing down on a big bag of Doritos and drinking a Big Gulp.
That's me--and I've never smoked or ingested a smidgen of pot in my life!

Seriously though, I'd have other issues in the same situation. I'm active duty in the army and I don't know if it is possible, but if my neighbor's smoke got in my house and was enough to make me pop hot on a random drug test, I could (worst case scenario) go to jail and lose my job. Not good. So, yeah, in my case I'd either narc or give him a good brownie recipe (got lots of those, nice normal ones that don't involve pot--he can figure out how to add the pot).
post #42 of 175
We lived in an apartment when DS1 was newly born. We had a neighbor on one side who would smoke pot on occasion. I never noticed it in our apartment, but sometimes you could smell it in the hall and outside the building.

The problem came when our neighbor on the other side, who was not as laid back about it as we were, became convinced somehow that it was us smoking the pot, and confronted DH outside one night about how we were supposedly smoking pot with our newborn son in the house. He was really angry about it and wouldn't believe DH when he tried to explain about the other neighbors. We were afraid he'd call DCFS. Of course, had they investigated the truth would have come out and we would have been fine, but it wasn't really something we wanted to have to deal with, you know? Fortunately, we moved to our house soon thereafter.

This kind of thing can affect you in other ways too, should someone happen by and misinterpret the situation. If it's pouring out of the house...really, someone who's just passing by could notice it, notice toys in the yard or whatever, and draw the wrong conclusion.
post #43 of 175
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Originally Posted by green betty View Post
Hmmm, I might approach it in a collaborative manner. You neighbor wants to smoke, you want to be free from smoke. There are probably several creative solutions which would achieve both goals. Would he consider using a vaporiser instead? Would you be willing to contribute towards the cost if he is?
Why should she? Should she do the same were he smoking a pack of Merits?
post #44 of 175
I am also in agreement that the OP shouldn't have to spend any money to change the situation. I beleive any secondhand smoke is harmful especially where children are concerned and if she is supposed to be in a smoke free home it should be just that. I don't think that calling the cops would amount to anything either, though. I'd try it in this order

1. bringing it up again with neighbor. Asking if he can figure out a solution. Smoking outside, by a window with a fan, vaporizer, whatever...

2. If it happens again tell him flat out you are going to the landlord and if nothing is done you have no problem going to the cops. Like I said earlier, they probably can't do anything but the threat alone might be enough to get him to stop. *see my story below

3. Voice your concerns and mention that he is not living up to his lease in providing a smoke free environment.

*We had a similar thing happen to us before kids. We lived in a townhouse and our neighbors smoked so much pot we could smell it. One day I went over to ask that they tone it down that night because we were having a get together with some of my husband's friends from the station. After that we rarely smelled it again and when we did it was not bad at all. We later found out through a mutual friend that they thought my husband was a cop. I had meant fire station when I said it but they took it as police station.
post #45 of 175
OP, I had this problem in a rental once, but she was very responsive. We were only there for about a month longer (we bought a house - not related to smell) and it came around in conversation. I asked her if she stopped smoking and she said no, that she sealed the vents in that Press and Seal plastic wrap before she smoked. Maybe something to mention to your neighbor if you don't want to get the cops involved....
post #46 of 175
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Originally Posted by AbbieB View Post
I think it is important to keep in mind that pot smoke and cigarette smoke are not the same thing. The carcinogens in "smoke" that we have all come to know about are from tobacco, not weed. A person can have a life long habit of smoking weed and they do not have the same risks for cancer and disease that a person smoking cigarettes does. The OP's family is not getting poisoned from weed smoke.
that's not what i've read. are you telling me that if i smoked pot morning, noon and night for 10 years solid i'd have *zero* additional risk of lung cancer?
post #47 of 175
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
that's not what i've read. are you telling me that if i smoked pot morning, noon and night for 10 years solid i'd have *zero* additional risk of lung cancer?

actually, I think that is true. And certainly anyone breathing in second hand (pot) smoke would not have any increased risk of cancer.

Not that I think the OP should have to put up with the smell, because clearly it bothers her... but I doubt there is truly a health concern from it seeping into the walls.
post #48 of 175
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
that's not what i've read. are you telling me that if i smoked pot morning, noon and night for 10 years solid i'd have *zero* additional risk of lung cancer?
In fact, it not only does not cause lung cancer, it can help keep it from spreading.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0417193338.htm

Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
ScienceDaily (Apr. 17, 2007) — The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.


It always blows my mind in these MJ discussions at MDC just how ignorant most people still are towards MJ. DARE really did a number on so many people. *sigh*
post #49 of 175
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Originally Posted by beesknees View Post
FWIW I really have nothing against pot or pot smokers in general, lack of respect for one's neighbor however, is a whole other issue.
ITA, My neighbors burn leaves and rubbish : it seems like they wait until I put laundry on the line...

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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
"Hi, I'm _____ and I smoke weed."
If you have to pass the joint from your hand to shake, thats a good clue too

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Originally Posted by AbbieB View Post
Sounds like he may be growing in a closet. Does your duplex have a basement?
I thought this too originally. He needs to pull his head out of his bum if hes growing in a duplex.

OP: does it smell all.day.and.all.night.and.all.afternoon? I would have a more serious chat with him if hes growing. Some, but not all, growers steal electric from their neighbors. Whats your electric bill like?

I'm also really amazed how many "call the cops" there are. The cops have waaay better business then policing a dude smoking pot on his couch.
post #50 of 175
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Originally Posted by mistymama View Post
In fact, it not only does not cause lung cancer, it can help keep it from spreading.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0417193338.htm

Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
ScienceDaily (Apr. 17, 2007) — The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.


It always blows my mind in these MJ discussions at MDC just how ignorant most people still are towards MJ. DARE really did a number on so many people. *sigh*

It blows my mind that people take scientific studies out of context. SMOKING marijuana is unhealthy and carcinogenic.

In the study you link to above they INJECTED the THC into rats, they did break out a bong and light up the pot- which would turn it into a carcinogen aka cancer causing substance.

I don't know many potheads that eat/inject pot rather than smoke it.

I have no opinion on mj smoking as far as a moral thing, but it's dangerous when people try to trump up health benefits without giving the whole story.
post #51 of 175
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Originally Posted by Drummer's Wife View Post
actually, I think that is true. And certainly anyone breathing in second hand (pot) smoke would not have any increased risk of cancer.

Not that I think the OP should have to put up with the smell, because clearly it bothers her... but I doubt there is truly a health concern from it seeping into the walls.
The statement I bolded is wrong.

All smoke of any form is toxic to the lungs and is carcinogenic. There is no such thing as safe smoke of any sort.
post #52 of 175
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Originally Posted by kriket View Post
ITA, My neighbors burn leaves and rubbish : it seems like they wait until I put laundry on the line...


yes, this totally bugs the crap out of me. We live in a rural-ish area with tons of weeds and people here have these out door fire place things that they stuff weeds and crap in an smoke out the street. It smells like an awful forest fire and irritates my sinuses. I just make sure all the windows and door are closed as soon as I smell it. I wouldn't dream of complaining, though, it's what they do to keep it out of the dump and get rid of it all quickly.
post #53 of 175
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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
It blows my mind that people take scientific studies out of context. SMOKING marijuana is unhealthy and carcinogenic.

In the study you link to above they INJECTED the THC into rats, they did break out a bong and light up the pot- which would turn it into a carcinogen aka cancer causing substance.

I don't know many potheads that eat/inject pot rather than smoke it.

I have no opinion on mj smoking as far as a moral thing, but it's dangerous when people try to trump up health benefits without giving the whole story.
Oh, please.

There are LOTS of studies out there proving that there is NO INCREASED risk of lung cancer from smoking MJ, and several studies showing that THC is beneficial to stopping the spread of cancer.

And there are lots of ways to get THC into your body without smoking, and yes, they still come with oder. Vaping comes to mind. But even cooking with it will make a strong smell. Just because you smell MJ does not mean someone is smoking it - not that smoking it causes increased risk of cancer anyway.
post #54 of 175
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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
The statement I bolded is wrong.

All smoke of any form is toxic to the lungs and is carcinogenic. There is no such thing as safe smoke of any sort.
I'm curious then. Have there been any cases of lung cancer among pot only smokers, much less people who have breathed it in second hand? I'm genuinely curious.

ETA: and I guess my point is that it's really, really unlikely that a neighbor smoking is going to impact the health of the people next door. I know CA has labeled pot a carcinogen, but really, you are more likely to get cancer breathing in the smog in LA.
post #55 of 175
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Originally Posted by mistymama View Post
Oh, please.

There are LOTS of studies out there proving that there is NO INCREASED risk of lung cancer from smoking MJ, and several studies showing that THC is beneficial to stopping the spread of cancer.

And there are lots of ways to get THC into your body without smoking, and yes, they still come with oder. Vaping comes to mind. But even cooking with it will make a strong smell. Just because you smell MJ does not mean someone is smoking it - not that smoking it causes increased risk of cancer anyway.
I agree about the beneficial effects of THC, but the studies linked here are studies using injectables not smoked THC. Show me a study where they used subjects who were exposed to mj smoke as opposed to an injectable.

I'm not downplaying the medicinal effects of mj as they are valid and great, but I surely don't see why anyone would get all uproarious over someone saying SMOKE isn't healthy. It's not.

To prove that smoking mj (as opposed to consuming it) is not harmful to human health they would need to follow frequent mj smokers for years to discover ALL cancer rates, not just lung.

And second hand smoke is not healthy. There is no study you can show me that will prove that second hand smoke is 100% benign and healthy for humans.
post #56 of 175
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Originally Posted by Drummer's Wife View Post
I'm curious then. Have there been any cases of lung cancer among pot only smokers, much less people who have breathed it in second hand? I'm genuinely curious.

ETA: and I guess my point is that it's really, really unlikely that a neighbor smoking is going to impact the health of the people next door. I know CA has labeled pot a carcinogen, but really, you are more likely to get cancer breathing in the smog in LA.
Exactly. I have no doubt it's more "dangerous" to walk to the park on a poor air quality day around here than it is to smell the odor of a neighbor smoking pot. MJ is stinky stuff and the smell can really travel (esp if it's good )

Not that the OP should have to put up with the smell - she's received lots of suggestions for dealing with that though. I must say, I would not be happy if my home reeked of pot for any extended period of time. I'm anal about keep it clean and fresh, that smell would drive me nuts.
post #57 of 175
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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
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I don't know many potheads that eat/inject pot rather than smoke it.
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really? I can think of... 6 off the top of my head. They don't like smoke so they eat it or vaporise it.

I will have to agree, smoke causes cancer, not pot. Or at least from what I've read thats been the case. Also.. most pot smokers don't smoke as much as tobacco smokers. Most pot smokers also smoke out of pipes so, no burning paper. Most pot is pretty natural, if you enjoy pot, you get good stuff. Tobacco is full of lord knows what because big business got a hold of it. Thats neither here nor there. Its still rude to 'blow' smoke in someone proverbial face.
post #58 of 175
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Originally Posted by Drummer's Wife View Post
I'm curious then. Have there been any cases of lung cancer among pot only smokers, much less people who have breathed it in second hand? I'm genuinely curious.

ETA: and I guess my point is that it's really, really unlikely that a neighbor smoking is going to impact the health of the people next door. I know CA has labeled pot a carcinogen, but really, you are more likely to get cancer breathing in the smog in LA.
Well we are going way OT, I also don't see a huge risk from the neighbor's wafting odors. The OP still has a valid argument against breathing it in though.

I don't buy into the "everything causes cancer" argument either. Smog is bad, carcinogens are bad. We should avoid them all.

I am not extremely well read on pot studies so I cannot tell you about lung cancer rates for pure pot smokers, but I can tell you that smoke contains carcinogens which cause cancer.

Do the anti-cancer effects of pot retain their power when it is used in a combustable/carcinogenic form?

I don't know.
post #59 of 175
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Originally Posted by Porcelain Interior View Post
I agree about the beneficial effects of THC, but the studies linked here are studies using injectables not smoked THC. Show me a study where they used subjects who were exposed to mj smoke as opposed to an injectable.

I'm not downplaying the medicinal effects of mj as they are valid and great, but I surely don't see why anyone would get all uproarious over someone saying SMOKE isn't healthy. It's not.

To prove that smoking mj (as opposed to consuming it) is not harmful to human health they would need to follow frequent mj smokers for years to discover ALL cancer rates, not just lung.

And second hand smoke is not healthy. There is no study you can show me that will prove that second hand smoke is 100% benign and healthy for humans.
Ack, don't have time - have to go pick up carpool soon and promised ds we would bake cookies after school today!

But --- I guess my point is that, like every decision we make, it's all about weighing your options and risk vs. benefit. I can't make the argument that smoking MJ is healthy - but I can say that my personal opinion it's not as bad as many of the other things I breathe every single day, esp when it's organic, homegrown. If we are talking about MJ you don't know where it came from, IMO, that is a much larger risk.

And add to that, there are many ways to get THC into your system other than injecting. I have friends that cook with it (don't want to smoke for health reasons) and others that vape. So yes, you can reap the health benefits without smoking, and many people do.

I don't mean to jump on you because in all honesty, it sounds like we pretty much agree. But these MJ discussions always peak my interest because there is still a lot of misinformation out there.
post #60 of 175
we had a roommate right after ds was born who smoked pot in his room.. i was a little shocked that i had to ask him to please not smoke in the house with my newborn. i think that a lot of pot smokers really dont see why people might not enjoy smelling the pot aroma (with the possible issue of health concerns aside). he smoked in his car after that.
since it sounds like your issue really isnt the fact that your neighbor smokes, calling the cops doesn't sound like the right solution for you.
i liked the pp suggestion of mentioning that THEY could smell it too.. i know that when i was partaking i was especially paranoid about THEM hehe. this might be the issue that gets his attention.
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