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post #21 of 27
We've been using GD and positive parrenting with our sons for almost 15 years (thye are twins). They have always been pretty good kids, though we definitely went through phases of biting, tantrums, and long, long days!

Today, my sons are respectful to us and others - not because they are cowed into treating people with respect, but because that's how THEY have always been treated, and they think it's the right thing to do. They are empathetic, thoughtful, and funny. They still enjoy hanging out with their parents, and are not ashamed to be seen in public with us. They look at their friends' parents, and think they've got it pretty good!

When you build a relationship based on trust and respect, both trust and respect grow. My kids used to beg for a later bedtime, for example, because "All our freinds stay up later than we do!" I explained that if they could get up on their own before the alarm went off, and were well rested during the day, then they were getting plenty of sleep, and could stay up later. If mornings were a struggle to get out of bed, they needed more sleep and needed to go to bed earlier. Eventually they realized that it was their own bodies setting bedtime - not Mean Old Mom. With enough similar examples, they learned to trust that the rules and guidelines we established were not put in place to make their lives miserable, but truly made in their best interest. Stuggles along those lines became less and less, because of that level of trust.

And because we truly respect them, and listen to their opinions - even if we don't agree with them - we have a wonderful level of communication. My kids come to me with problems, concerns, ideas - everything. They know that I will listen and not ridicule their ideas, no matter how far-fetched (trust again). As a result, they have learned to ideantify and articulate their feelings, and they understand how important it is to talk things out, rather than hold them in.

We were blessed with wonderful children, and I certainly will NOT take full credit for the fact that they are turning out so well. But I do think that we have taken their natures, and nurtured them along a path of kindness, thoughtfulness, and empathy, through our example.
post #22 of 27
I dont think that everything other than GD is disrespectful.
post #23 of 27
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I dont think that everything other than GD is disrespectful.
Our definitions of GD might be different -- the core of GD for me is respect for all people. Children, and adults, deserve respect. If you're respectful, that's GD, IMO.

Now within that definition of GD, I know I make some parenting decisions that others here disagree with. We use timeouts sometimes. They are used precisely when the child is incapable of respecting other's needs (either hitting or screaming/whining so badly no one can think) and the child needs to be separated to calm down.

I'll confess to threatening more than I like sometimes. I'll confess to yelling a lot more than I 'should'. On the other hand, maybe it's good for my kids to see my honest, raw emotions. They don't seem to have been very scarred by it yet. Heck, after I yelled at dd the other night (and then took myself off for a time out), dd came in from playing and said "Shouldn't you say "I'm sorry" for yelling at me?"

I think there is a full range of things that can work with GD -- what works depends on you, your temperament, your child and their temperament. My family's style is more of a benevolent dictatorship. Some of that is the age of our children, some of that is the temperament of the parents, and some of that is the needs of our children. Other parents, with different children, may have more of a democratic style.

The bottom line is that children are worthy of respect and that violence and force are inherently disrespectful. Who wouldn't want to raise their children with those values?
post #24 of 27
I am also in the camp of practicing my parenting because it is what I feel is right, not necessarily because of an outcome.

I do think that we need to let go of the idea that we have control over how our children will turn out. We definitely don't! All we can do is set the stage, give them the love they need to make their own way in the world, and be here to provide support when things go awry for them.

I think anyone who parents in a specific way so that their children will be a certain way, is going to be disappointed. We GD and AP so that they will have the tools to get through the hardship in life, the tools to make the best decisions that they can (not the decisions we want them to make) and that's it.

Just my two cents and I'm sure they are worth the paper they're written on I have given this a lot of thought, and I certainly don't have all of the answers, and maybe in a few years I'll decide I was all wrong and change my mind. :
post #25 of 27
"The days are long but the years are short" as the saying goes...

It's not easy to see the benefits to GD as early as 2 or 3 years old. However, I echo everthing nd_deadhead said about her teenaged sons. Ds is 13 and an absolute delight. He is funny, sensitive, and thoughtful, and not embarassed to be seen with parents. He often says "I love you" and is very open talking with us about his life/concerns/thoughts.

I cannot take full credit. However, I do think GD was an investment made early that was rewarded later with a positive relationship with ds.
post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by GuildJenn View Post
Some kids have harder times at particular ages than others. Some families are under stresses at different times. And also, nothing works one hundred per cent.
This.

DD was the hardest baby I've ever dealt with (my own or relative, babysitting, etc.) - by far. She's always been very volatile and extremely sensitive. And, now she's 6, and she's mostly pretty easy to deal with...too whiny for me to handle easily, but that's it.

DS2? Easiest baby in the history of the human race - no joke. He was a picnic. He took a long time to walk or talk, but that was it. And, now...UGH! I have no words.

Some of it temperament. Some of it is the stresses our family has been under over those years (my fourth baby was stillborn during labour when dd1 was 4 and ds2 was 2). Some of it is discipline. I guess it really boils down to the interplay of the three things. But, you know...there is no way that a close attachment and having their needs respected is going to hurt a kid. It just isn't.
post #27 of 27
The difference is that your dd will get all of her "experimenting" with boundaries over with now and become a well adjusted adult. The unattached children will start "experimenting" in the teen years. Chin up. Mama, you're doing a great job.
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