Vaxing compulsory for school enrolment, and homeschooling illegal?

[MittensKittens]

What would you do if you found yourself living in a country in which vaccination is not strictly compulsory, but enrolment into elementary school is - and you need to have proof of vaccination record in order to enrol your child into school? On top od that, they also have a school doctor where they administer the booster vaxes, not sure which ones apply, but I do know that no consent is asked from parents.

Unfortunately, this is not a theoretical situation, but the law in the Eastern European country we live in. Do any other countries have similar laws? I am very concerned that homeschooling is apparently illegal, but since this is the vax forum, I'd be interested to know what you would do. There is no religious ore philosophical exemption. For those who choose to enrol their kids in school, but do not want to vax, the only possible solution I can think of is falsifying vax records .

Let me add that tabloids are full of cases where expired vaxes and "bad batches" were "accidentally" given to school kids by school nurses .

[mysticmomma]

I would move.

[Marnica]

I would move too....or forge the records...what wouldn't you do to protect your child??

[Pirogi]

My husband is from eastern Europe also, and he talks about using "blat" to take care of situations like this. From what I understand, blat is using connections, arrangements, exchanges to bend or break the rules. When I first heard of it, my fairness meter went off the chart, and it was a very difficult thing for me to reconcile this honest, caring man with someone who would lie, steal, and cheat the system to take care of himself and his family. But at that point, I had only experienced illusive freedom, and the threat of living in a place where the government is powerful and ruthless wasn't a reality for me. If I were in your situation, and moving wasn't an option, I would use whatever means I could to protect my child. If that meant dishonesty within an unreasonable system, so be it.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

I would do what ever was needed to protect my child. Including everything the pp's above mentioned.

Since there is someone on site who does give the vax I would be terrified that they would give my child a vax anyway. I couldnt risk sending my child to school knowing that could happen. DD could die if she got some of those shots because of allergies to the ingredients.

You should make 100% that homeschooling isnt and option and if not then you will have to go from there.

[chaoticzenmom]

I would (and have) forge the shot records. I had given my son some of the vaxes, so it was easy to see how the records were filled out...so I filled out the rest and turned them in. I was also in Europe.

The problem is that later, when it's time for new shots and dr's visits, you may have issues. Like, if your child is in the middle of the vaccine schedule, then you may need to schedule a trip to the U.S. and say that you visited a dr. here...or wherever your home country is to get the next shots.

The school nurse probably won't be giving any boosters to kids who are up to date. They're there for the convenience of parents.

[EVC]

Bribe a doctor to forge the records. Then bully the school nurse as a pre-emptive strike.

Sorry that sounds totally harsh, and I have never spent time in the country that you are in so it may be off, but in the Eastern European countries where I have lived, this is exactly what would have the best chances for success, and would be pretty much socially acceptable (not as completely out of line as it would be in the US).

[JamesMama]

I'd forge records. No questions asked. I have a nurse friend who could nab me a couple record sheets and I see the same dr as a girlfriend, it wouldn't take too much to trace the initials at the end to figure out how to copy it then I'd copy it.

Use a different color ink (blue for one line, black for another).

There is very little I wouldn't do to protect my children.

[MommyDOK]

WOW!! All I can say is I'm very sorry you are in such a situation. Homeschooling is illegal?? What?? I never heard of such a thing. I guess I live in a cave.

I really don't know what I would do---esp w/ the expired shots. That is really awful.

Is there any chance you could move??

[KoalaMommy]

Originally Posted by MommyDOK

WOW!! All I can say is I'm very sorry you are in such a situation. Homeschooling is illegal?? What?? I never heard of such a thing. I guess I live in a cave.

I really don't know what I would do---esp w/ the expired shots. That is really awful.

Is there any chance you could move??

Homeschooling was illegal in parts of the US 20 years ago. In many European countries teachers are well educated and well compensated, and societal assimilation is highly valued.

I would forge and/or bribe as well. You have to work within the system you're in. Is private schooling an option at all?

[MittensKittens]

Thanks for your replies! I am still looking for a loophole around the homeschooling issue. I am extremely concerned about the way in which vaccines are ultimately compulsory, since elementary school is compulsory and you have to get kids vaxed to enrol them. Like someone mentioned, societal assimilation is key here, and that is a practice I strongly object to. There are private schools, but I am not informed as to whether they would be more "lenient" regarding vaxing. I have no issues with bribing or forging records, but I do have issues with this being the only way of "opting out".