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post #1901 of 2068
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Originally Posted by Slackermom View Post
Essentially, the story was about how much funding/support the IWK gets from formula companies, and whether they can truly call themselves "breastfeeding friendly" because of it.
Actually Slackermom, I can answer that breastfeeding friendly question...the IWK does not meet the standards to be classified as Breastfeeding or Baby Friendly. My dh's breastfeeding course required them to choose a place in the city and see what it needed to become BF and Baby Friendly according to the requirements (I can't remember who's requirements, might be the WHO's, I'll ask him when he gets home). His group chose Dalhousie University and another group did the IWK, and the entire class was shocked to discover that the IWK failed to meet the requirements by a wide margin.

As for funding from specific formula companies, no one company has an exclusive contract like in some hospitals...Phil also works in the kitchen at the IWK and there is a full supply of every brand of formula on the market down there, the dr makes the recommendation of which kind the babe in question gets. Sadly, Nestle Goodstart seems to be the preferred choice of the drs.
post #1902 of 2068
Baby Friendly Initiative information (including hospitals in Canada that can call themselves Baby Friendly, mostly in Quebec, from the looks of it, and a sadly short list):

http://breastfeedingcanada.ca/html/bfi.html



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Originally Posted by lesley&grace View Post
Actually Slackermom, I can answer that breastfeeding friendly question...the IWK does not meet the standards to be classified as Breastfeeding or Baby Friendly. My dh's breastfeeding course required them to choose a place in the city and see what it needed to become BF and Baby Friendly according to the requirements (I can't remember who's requirements, might be the WHO's, I'll ask him when he gets home). His group chose Dalhousie University and another group did the IWK, and the entire class was shocked to discover that the IWK failed to meet the requirements by a wide margin.

As for funding from specific formula companies, no one company has an exclusive contract like in some hospitals...Phil also works in the kitchen at the IWK and there is a full supply of every brand of formula on the market down there, the dr makes the recommendation of which kind the babe in question gets. Sadly, Nestle Goodstart seems to be the preferred choice of the drs.
post #1903 of 2068
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Originally Posted by Alison View Post
Baby Friendly Initiative information (including hospitals in Canada that can call themselves Baby Friendly, mostly in Quebec, from the looks of it, and a sadly short list):

http://breastfeedingcanada.ca/html/bfi.html
That list is horribly short. Sigh.
post #1904 of 2068
Yeah, there aren't many, are there? And getting rid of the breastfeeding support clinic certainly doesn't help the IWK's case.

Kathryn was working on the story because last summer, certain hospitals in NS were trying for the breastfeeding designation -- I think it was the IWK and a hospital in Cape Breton, but I can't recall. There were quite a few people upset about the fact that the IWK wanted to be breastfeeding-friendly, yet often offers forumula in lieu of breastfeeding support.
post #1905 of 2068
Thread Starter 
Hi slackermom! My DD was born in Dec. 05' also! Our nursing relationship is still going strong as well.

Sorry to butt in, but this is something I have a bee in my bonnet about. Who do we complain to about the IWK not being a 'baby friendly' hospital!? I feel like we shoud DO something but what? There is NO reason the IWK can't be baby friendly by the WHO's standards (o.k. the formula companies provide a lot of funding to the IWK). How can we change attitudes and beliefs around breastfeeding in our lovely yet traditional province? I still feel very uncomfortable nip here, but I am getting better.
post #1906 of 2068
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Originally Posted by zipworth View Post
Who do we complain to about the IWK not being a 'baby friendly' hospital!? I feel like we shoud DO something but what? There is NO reason the IWK can't be baby friendly by the WHO's standards
The department that's set up to handle complaints and feedback at the IWK is "Quality Resources". Their phone number is: 470-8870. I wrote a rather long letter complaining about the treatment I received and they did reply and meet with me. I don't know how much good it did, but if you're sending letters other places it might be worth sending a copy there too.
post #1907 of 2068
Hi Zipworth!

Thanks for that info, Rachelsmama. I think I'll write a letter. The IWK sends surveys to mamas a few months after the birth, asking for feedback about their experiences. I did use that to raise my concerns, but there was no follow-up.
post #1908 of 2068
I had that survey too. I filled it out, sent it in, and actually did get a couple of phone calls about it later, to follow up. My major complaint in the survey was that nobody told me there was such a thing as a lactation consultant, or that I could go to the mother baby clinic if I wanted to. This awesome resource right across the hall from my room (and I was in for 5 days, with The Boy under the lights) and not a single nurse thought to mention its existence to me. Anyway, my point was, they did actually get back to me to discuss my feedback, which I appreciated.
post #1909 of 2068
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone! I'm all fired up now! I'll be writing a letter soon. Thanks for the info rachelsmama, I am no good on the phone, but I can write a good letter.
post #1910 of 2068

Hi

Hi All,

I've never posted a message on a message board before so if I've chosen the wrong forum, please accept my apologies. I'm at home with my first baby (he's nearly 6 months old now) and am looking to meet other mom's who are home as well. We live in Hubley (about 10 mins from Bayers Lake)...is this a "playgroup" who actually meet up now and then or is that just the name of the the thread?
post #1911 of 2068
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Originally Posted by Evan's Mom View Post
Hi All,

I've never posted a message on a message board before so if I've chosen the wrong forum, please accept my apologies. I'm at home with my first baby (he's nearly 6 months old now) and am looking to meet other mom's who are home as well. We live in Hubley (about 10 mins from Bayers Lake)...is this a "playgroup" who actually meet up now and then or is that just the name of the the thread?
Welcome!

Yes it is an actual group that meets weekly. The group meets Mondays at Fort Massey United Church, which is at the corner of Queen and Tobin, in Halifax. It starts at 11:00am. It's not a real formal group like some playgroups are with planned activities, just parents and kids getting together for play and chat. On warm sunny days, through the summer usually, we gather at the playground near the Westin hotel, just down the road from the Church. Hope to see you there!
post #1912 of 2068
Thread Starter 
Welcome Evan's Mom! I think the playgroup still meets, but I will let the others answer this for me. Enjoy your stay at Mothering! Look around, there is lots of great advice and support here.

Natalie
post #1913 of 2068
Thanks! So is it ok to just show up? I've never been to a playgroup - formal or not! Am so looking forward to meeting some other moms!!!
post #1914 of 2068
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Originally Posted by Evan's Mom View Post
Thanks! So is it ok to just show up? I've never been to a playgroup - formal or not! Am so looking forward to meeting some other moms!!!
Hi, it's definitely okay to just show up. You can show up any time between 11am and 1pm, and leave whenever it suits you. We use the church nursery, and parlour (they're connected) and the older kids go upstairs to run in the gym now and then. Go along the Tobin Street side of the church, to the door that's furthest from Queen Street (the third door) and ring the bell. If there's no answer ring again, sometimes it gets too loud to hear the wimpy little bell easily.

Charlene
post #1915 of 2068
Hi guys!

First, an announcement for those of you who might not have heard already:

My son, Gabriel Russell Christopher was born Wednesday April 18th. His story and some pics are on my blog which you can get to by clicking "crazed knitter" in my siggy.

He's beautiful and latched like a pro less than an hour after birth. We have had a couple of issues with latch in the middle of the night, I chalk that up to both of us being too tired to remember what to do (I had the same issues with Grace in the beginning), but I'm sure we'll get the night feedings down soon enough. Meanwhile I'm producing enough for septuplets and go through several shirts a day. The urge to pump off just so I can be comfortable is very strong...but I know that if I do I'll keep producing at this rate and I will probably explode.

Since our most recent topic of discussion was bfing at the IWK, when we were in LDR the nurse asked me what my preference was for delivery, basically did I want him placed on my belly right away that sort of thing. I said I would like him in my arms as soon as possible, and that I wanted to put him to breast as soon as possible. The nurse made a note of that, then Phil also said that "Yes, we are a very pro-breastfeeding family, there is to be no formula even mentioned, let alone offered to the baby no matter what the circumstances. Talk of formula is simply not welcome." Not one of my nurses during my entire stay made mention of formula, not one interfered with my latching him on, they basically asked me how things were going and let us get on with it.

There was only one nurse that I had a bit of an issue with, she was an older lady who REEKED of cigarettes and Gabriel cried both times she handled him, and instead of taking him out of the incubator for me (he was jaundiced and needed phototherapy) tried to flip him onto his belly to quiet him despite my saying he does not like that. The third time she came in (to put him back in after a feed) I told her he was not ready and would not hand him over. I've actually been debating whether or not to call regarding this nurse...I really did not like how she smelled of cigarettes (I mean, come on! You're in the Family Newborn Unit, you should not be smoking on shift) and I really did not like how dismissive she was of my wishes, even though she was nice about it. I think the cigarette thing bugs me the most.

That all said, the girl who shared my room the first two nights we were in had had a c-section, and her mom had asked me if I was bfing, and I told her I was and that I had bf'd my daughter until she was not quite 20mos. Later I heard the girl telling a visitor that she had to give the baby formula because when the baby was born she did not have any milk. WTF?? Did no one explain how that works to her? I also overheard some of the staff talking about another mom (no names were mentioned) and that they should just give the baby formula because mom was exhausted and frustrated with bf. Maybe I misunderstood, after all I only heard part of a conversation, but it was fairly annoying to hear yet again that while the IWK is supposed to be promoting breastfeeding and the nursing staff do not all seem to be on board with it. Once again though, I have seen that you really need to be a very good advocate for yourself in order to get the care you want.

Oh, and that great breastfeeding resource book was not given out, I got a section of it that was photocopied...apparently the publishers have a hard time keeping up with the need for the book. I told my nurse I had a copy already at home so she could hang onto the photocopy for another patient. When the Public Health Nurse called this morning she asked me if I got the envelope with the books in it, specifically "Food for Year One" I said no I had not, so she put my name down on the mailing list for it, and mentioned the publishing thing again.

Sorry, this is turning into a book...

Speaking of the PHN...I told her that I had nursed Grace for a long time, and she said that was so great because she sees too often moms giving it up after a few weeks or months. So I mentioned that I was lucky enough to find a great playgroup, not an organized led-by-resource-centre group, but a community of families, and there was a lot of support for EBF and cloth diapering, etc. I told her about this site, promoted Tamara's business (they had tried to find info on CD in the city and all they could come up with the one diaper service) and let her know the info for the group...at her pre-natal class tonight she is going to pass on the info for moms who are interested.

And maybe I'm just feeling horomonal and sentimental...but I honestly attribute my success with bf and cloth diapering and my obsession with baby carriers to this group. If you guys had not been there, setting great examples and helping me get started with CD and introducing me to fun things like slings and mei tais, not to mention the great friends I've made...I'm not sure I'd be doing the things I am doing with my kids. I doubt I would have bf'd Grace beyond a year...I probably would not have gone the CD route...I would have abandonned the babywearing since the snugli I bought was so uncomfortable...so a great big THANK YOU to all of you
post #1916 of 2068
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Originally Posted by lesley&grace View Post
And maybe I'm just feeling horomonal and sentimental...but I honestly attribute my success with bf and cloth diapering and my obsession with baby carriers to this group. If you guys had not been there, setting great examples and helping me get started with CD and introducing me to fun things like slings and mei tais, not to mention the great friends I've made...I'm not sure I'd be doing the things I am doing with my kids. I doubt I would have bf'd Grace beyond a year...I probably would not have gone the CD route...I would have abandonned the babywearing since the snugli I bought was so uncomfortable...so a great big THANK YOU to all of you
I'm sensing some post-natal weepy hormones here on your part, but thank you anyway for all the nice stuff you just said about us!
post #1917 of 2068
Just wondering what's going on for Victoria Day with playgroup? Since it sounds like it's going to be rainy and all, running around in the gym might be fun, if playgroup is on. Anyone know?

Alison
post #1918 of 2068
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Originally Posted by Alison View Post
Just wondering what's going on for Victoria Day with playgroup? Since it sounds like it's going to be rainy and all, running around in the gym might be fun, if playgroup is on. Anyone know?

Alison
I don't know, but count me in if it is.

Charlene
post #1919 of 2068

Homeschoolers in NS

The NSHEA (Nova Scotia Home Educators Association) Conference and Resource fair is happening on June 9th for anyone homeschooling (or considering it). It's at the East Hants Sportsplex from 830 to 330 and should be a fun event. You can check the NSHEA website or I can email you the brochure if you're interested.
post #1920 of 2068

I finally caught the knitting bug!

After years of thinking about knitting, I finally took the plunge and bought a "learn to knit" kit about a month and a half ago. So far I've made 3 pairs of slippers, a purse and now I'm working on a baby blanket. I've been using cheap yarn while I'm learning but soon I'll be excited to get into the nicer more natural wools. Anyone have some tips for where in Halifax to get some of these? I remember going to the Saturday market once and seeing a booth with what looked like beautiful natural wool. Anyone know of this?
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