How much milk?

[NaturalMindedMomma]

I have bi-polar disorder and I know that most likely after returning to work I may not be able to continue to EBF. I am also not sure how long I will want to. I am staying off of my meds until I stop nursing (there aren't many safe alternatives and there are so many side effects for me this is the best option). I was hoping to make it to 6 months and then use all of my pumped milk. Annalise is currently EBF but I introduced bottles for 1-2 feedings a day last week. She is 3 weeks old and doing well with switching back and forth as well as taking a pacifier. I am wondering logistically if I stop nursing her at 6 months if I can make it to one year or close enough so that she can go to a formula subsitute? My older girl got off formula at 10 months and went to rice milk and did well. How much does your 6 month, 9 month, 1 year old drink in breatmilk a day? I know I may have to supplement a little but I am hoping to not have to. Has anyone attempted this?

I already have somewhere around 300 oz saved and in a deep freezer. I can pump off about 20 oz a day. Any ideas, input?

THANKS!

[pdxmomazon]

Originally Posted by NaturalMindedMomma

I am wondering logistically if I stop nursing her at 6 months if I can make it to one year or close enough so that she can go to a formula subsitute? My older girl got off formula at 10 months and went to rice milk and did well. How much does your 6 month, 9 month, 1 year old drink in breatmilk a day? I know I may have to supplement a little but I am hoping to not have to. Has anyone attempted this?

I guess you'd chalk this up to the "input" category, but rice milk is not an adequate substitute for breast milk or formula. There's hardly any fat in it and is mostly sugar. If you want to avoid supplementing with commercial formula, you could try making your own goat's milk formula. Dr. Sears has a recipe on his site and we used that to supplement our daughter. However, I would never substitute rice or any other grain milk (or hell, any other animal milk by itself) for breastmilk or formula before a year.

Good luck in making it to one year on your stash alone!

[NaturalMindedMomma]

Originally Posted by pdxmomazon

I guess you'd chalk this up to the "input" category, but rice milk is not an adequate substitute for breast milk or formula. There's hardly any fat in it and is mostly sugar. If you want to avoid supplementing with commercial formula, you could try making your own goat's milk formula. Dr. Sears has a recipe on his site and we used that to supplement our daughter. However, I would never substitute rice or any other grain milk (or hell, any other animal milk by itself) for breastmilk or formula before a year.

Good luck in making it to one year on your stash alone!

I did it with my older daughter. She had a milk allergy and a soy allergy and we were no longer given any formula after she was about 10-11 months old, by our insurance and the prescription was ended then too and they wanted me to try cows milk which I was uncomfortable with (I think it was closer to 11 months). She did great. Goats milk didn't work for her, either. Anyway. I know if I had to I would give her formula, but I wanted to avoid that at all costs. I would never endanger my child by letting her be hungry, but by 10-11 months my older DD was eating 3-4 meals a day of table food and maybe thats why she did ok? I mean they are getting nutrients from that, too.

Anyway...

Thanks for the input, I appreciate all responses.

[phrogger]

Iw ould think, average out 32 oz a day for past 6 months once they are on solid foods. If you can get that much, you might be surprised at how long over the 1 year mark you can go, but basically, if you are doing 20 oz now a day over what you are nursing and saving that, you might be able to make that work until 10 or 11 months I would guess.

I don't remember how much my babies took at the older ages, but I wanted to wish you luck in getting that stash. I also hope this baby is easier to supplement with if you need to. That she can take to formula easier if that is needed.

[hotharmony]

From Kellymom.com
"The research tells us that exclusively breastfed babies take in an average of 25 oz (750 mL) per day between the ages of 1 month and 6 months. Different babies take in different amounts of milk; a typical range of milk intakes is 19-30 oz per day (570-900 mL per day). "
Here is a great calculator to help you determine the bottle size most appropriate for you LO.
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/milkcalc.html

After 6 months if the baby is on solids regularly there isn't much of a decrease in milk intake until closer to 10-11 months where milk intake drops to below 19oz a day.

[TiredX2]

Originally Posted by hotharmony

From Kellymom.com
"The research tells us that exclusively breastfed babies take in an average of 25 oz (750 mL) per day between the ages of 1 month and 6 months. Different babies take in different amounts of milk; a typical range of milk intakes is 19-30 oz per day (570-900 mL per day). "
Here is a great calculator to help you determine the bottle size most appropriate for you LO.
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/milkcalc.html

After 6 months if the baby is on solids regularly there isn't much of a decrease in milk intake until closer to 10-11 months where milk intake drops to below 19oz a day.

This isn't contridicting your information (and Kellymom is generally a great source) but that information really confuses me.

The AAP recommends that toddlers ages 1-3 eat approximately 40 calories per inch of height daily. So the average 1 year old (at appx 30 inches) would need around 1200 calories daily.

The ideal diet for a 12 month old includes at least 75% of calories from bmilk. That would be 900 calories daily from bmilk alone.

Bmilk averages approximately 20 calories per ounce (please correct me if wrong, I pulled this one quickly).

That leads me to conclude that the optimal diet for a 12 month old would consist of at least 45 ounces of bmilk (900/20= 45).

I can't imagine an 11 month old bfed child dropping below 19 ounces daily. I mean, isn't recommended cow's milk intake for a toddler 16ish ounces daily? So you would want that at a very minimum. This doesn't apply to the OP, but if a child was allowed to wean naturally (so, weaned to no milk source) they would need 16+ ounces of bmilk daily not at just 11 months, but til at least 2-2.5 years.

This information (that most children go under 19 ounces in the 11 month range seems contraditory towards either minimal optimal nursing (at least two years) or infant health (19 ounces * 20 calories/ounce is less than 400 calories meaning you are expecting an 11 month old to be getting 60+% of calories from alternate food sources ).

Now, I had always heard that a caloric intake of 1000 calories was average around a year, but that still produces a need of at least 750 calories of bmilk daily (750/20 = 37.5 ounces). That is fully twice the intake they are suggesting at 10-11 months.

Am I missing something here?

Sorry for the tangent.