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post #21 of 28
Thanks for posting this Clay! I'm really glad this conversation is here. I know I'm not that active in the Pagan Tribe but I'm thinking about this sort of stuff all the time and i agree with all your book recommendations except for the ones I had never heard of which I will check out.

I've been practicing Paganism in one form or another for 23 years. In that time I've explored many paths both in a group or coven and solitary.

I'm not very accepting of outside authority but I really like the shared structure and sharing of ideas of a group. I also find, for myself that I experience a lot of growth and a greater understanding of my own practice when I'm teaching someone else. Several years ago I was feeling very stuck in my spiritual life and worked a spell to call "the teacher who would help me to the next stage of my spiritual development"

Within the next few months I made contact with half a dozen students new to the path who wanted me to teach them. I ended up priestessing a teaching coven for a year and a day and then we all ended up going our separate ways. It was quite an experience and I don't know who learned more, me or my students. I found that I was the teacher that I needed. I've since had other students and each one has been a growing experience for me as I find out more about what I believe.

The Book on Clays list, Twelve Wild Swans follows 3 parallel paths, beginner, intermediate and advanced. The beginning path is the basics, directional elements, wheel of the year and so on. The intermediate path shows how to integrate those basic ideas into your own spiritual practice. The third path asks us to bring that spiritual understanding back out into the world. Teaching is one way of doing that.
post #22 of 28
bluets~now why on earth would they be getting RID of books? weird.


hi, Rhiannon! ok, that will be my first book to look for. that sounds wonderful, and i agree-- teaching, or even just explaining! is a great expanding device. i have a really hard time writing about my practice (uh, yes, i did just re-re-re-edit my reply on the other page... ), but each time i do, i find i learn something new about it or me... that happened with some camp stuff earlier this summer for me. it frustrates me too much though, i think, to make it a true tool for growth, personally, lol. (though i do think i ought to practice writing more....)
post #23 of 28
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Oddly, a lot of academic libraries are moving towards digital over print resources. The library I worked at built high density off site storage units to house print resources and pushed selectors/collection development librarians to really cut back on the number of print volumes kept on the main library shelves. So the digital is available 24/7 from wherever you are while the hard copy is available with a bit of a lag. It's a big debate in the library world but doesn't seem to make the national papers.

It does apply as an interesting analogy here though. I mean, if you have a single book sitting in front of you, that book becomes something of an "expert". It provides a single point of view, a set (and unchanging in terms of the volume) perspective. While your feelings towards or understanding of te text may change, the book itself doesn't. But internet resources can be more fluid. Text can be re-written or altered, it may be easier to compare ideas "side by side", thought processes can branch out and you may find yourself in strange/new/fascinating places that you didn't know existed and would never have thought to look for. But it can also be overwhelming and requires a strong sense of self to prevent a sort of overload.
post #24 of 28
Loving the new profile photo, Clay!!! Beautiful!
post #25 of 28
subbing so i don't lose this--this is JUST what i've been needing for a long time!

congrats BTW!!
post #26 of 28
how is it that you can be not just coherent, but also thoughtful, with a days-old-babe? it took me oh about a year? after ds was born before i even approached coherent. (i'm still not back to "thoughtful"...)

i love the analogy of one book in front of you. i do better with that. lol at "strong sense of self to prevent overload." very true.
post #27 of 28

a lot off topic

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Originally Posted by aweynsayl View Post
bluets~now why on earth would they be getting RID of books? weird.
in the case of the life sciences, they've sent our stacks to the auxiliary library facility. there, the books are kept in archival quality storage, organized by barcode (not call number or LOC number - so a music book could be beside a business book, beside a biology book). but they make them available - delivery to your nearest library branch on campus - within a day or two of requesting it online. nifty but i miss browsing through the stacks. as for why... well, the life sciences library was shoe-horned into an old light well (3-4 floors high) which are being renovated now to make new teaching labs. we are super duper tight on space and this edu (indeed, the state in general) doesn't seem to like building new buildings, even though they are sorely needed (case in point - our "center" is scattered across 7-10 spaces in 3 different buildings)
post #28 of 28
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doesn't seem to make the national papers.
i'm guessing that most citizens don't use their local edu library nor do the journalists working at local (non-student) newspapers.
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