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post #1 of 14
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DS just got out of surgery today for hydrocele/hernia repair. That part seemed to go fine (seems a little tender visually, but I think should heal fine). The doctor 'let me know' after the surgery that she "pulled back the foreskin and cleaned up a bit since" she figured "he was asleep and she could clean it better than (I'd) be able to in the bath". That was really annoying as she left his penis' tip looking red and raw. I have never been agressive in cleaning under his foreskin since I figure it pretty naturally washes well in the bath. We've never had any irritation there before (he's 2.5 yo).

So today, after a couple of pees, he's begun to complain about his penis hurting - not the incision, his penis. I'm guessing its from it being scrubbed raw and the urine coming in contact with the skin. Also, for a while there, he had some bloddy discharge from his penis (not the blood from the incision - I could tell from where it stained his undies). Like it's not traumatic enough to have to worry about caring for his incision to heal (particularly since he's a silly toddler) but now having to worry about any trauma he'll have going pee.

Currently he's taking Tylenol for pain as directed. I'd like to decrease the dose/frequency, but I would hate for him to feel pain from the surgery. He did amazingly well with the whole experience and don't want him to become deathly afraid of hospitals/doctors because they made him feel all sorts of pain. He was in no apparent discomfort over this hydrocele (although he complained of tummy aches which we're not sure if they were related to the hernia) - it was done to prevent the hernia from progressing to the next stage. So, he doesn't really understand why he had to be operated on in the first place. As it is, they gave him some super gross medicine to put him to sleep and now he says the tylenol tastes yucky too (he used to ask for more because it's so sweet so it's not that he doesn't like the taste, he's just made the association between the med's at the hospital and his Tylenol drops).

Is there anything I can do to help his pain? What should I do to help his penis (or his incision, really) heal? I am particularly interested in trying homeopathic treatments but also willing to go the conventional route if it means he'll feel less pain. I'd appreciate any help/advice/suggestions

Just to update: it has been 34 hours since surgery and he's still complaining of penis pain, winces at times when he pees, has requested not to use underwear since yesterday, and doesn't let me even lightly pat his penis with toilet paper after going pee. His incision seems to be fine. It's his penis that hurts him most. Please help.
post #2 of 14
I cannot believe she did that. I have no idea what you can do except allow it time to heal. If she seperated the foreskin from the glans Im sure it will take a while to heal. I have no idea if there is anything you could do to apart from leaving it be so it can heal.
But without a doubt you need to educate the doctor on what she did. She did harm. There is absolutely no reason at all to clean under the foreskin - it is not retractable yet in most boys your sons age. Please let her know that what she did was very wrong and hurtful.
Im sorry your DS is going through that - as if the hernia operation wasnt enough. I went through that myself at 4 years old and remember it was very tender while healing. Sending thoughts.
post #3 of 14
there have been more cases of this in the last month or 2 that I have seen in all the years I have been here. What she did was forcibly retract your non retractable ds in essence she ripped the glans from the foreskin where it was still attached. She had NO right or reason to do this and she has caused your ds pain and suffering and she needs to know what she did was assault.

I would call her and complain about it and let her know that by doing what she did she opened herself up for legal action and really hurt your ds. She needs to know to stop this because it can lead to infection and scar tissue.

You should leave it alone and avoid baths with soapy water allow it to heal back. I am so sorry that your ds went through this.

For any lurkers, this is exactly why when any surgery is done on the genitals it is imperative that you tell the dr. and nurses that they are to not touch the foreskin at all. It sucks that we have to do so but if we dont this kind of thing happens.

It isnt your fault OP you shouldnt have had to worry about this kind of thing I am upset with the Dr. for hurting your ds.

There is some things here to help aid healing http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=764732 Letting him pee in a cup of water will keep the sting away.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X View Post
there have been more cases of this in the last month or 2 that I have seen in all the years I have been here. What she did was forcibly retract your non retractable ds in essence she ripped the glans from the foreskin where it was still attached. She had NO right or reason to do this and she has caused your ds pain and suffering and she needs to know what she did was assault.

I would call her and complain about it and let her know that by doing what she did she opened herself up for legal action and really hurt your ds. She needs to know to stop this because it can lead to infection and scar tissue.

You should leave it alone and avoid baths with soapy water allow it to heal back. I am so sorry that your ds went through this.

For any lurkers, this is exactly why when any surgery is done on the genitals it is imperative that you tell the dr. and nurses that they are to not touch the foreskin at all. It sucks that we have to do so but if we dont this kind of thing happens.

It isnt your fault OP you shouldnt have had to worry about this kind of thing I am upset with the Dr. for hurting your ds.

There is some things here to help aid healing http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=764732 Letting him pee in a cup of water will keep the sting away.
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Poor little guy. Def. send her a letter and complain you can print some of the links in this thread and add them to your letter to give her info about proper care of intact boys.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...893&highlight=
post #5 of 14
This is really serious. What she did was unnecessary and NOT in agreement with the proper standard of care. The fact that he was under anesthesia makes no difference -- she still harmed him by unnecessarily ripping natural adhesions open and possibly introducing pathogens and definitely causing tissue trauma that might lead to scarring.

Hopefully he will get over this and not have any long-lasting ill-effects as his body heals.

But what she committed was battery. Battery is an unconsented-to touching, and you did not give your consent to retracting your son's penis during an unrelated surgery.

Although I wouldn't sue or make noises about sueing, I would write letters not only to the doctor but also to her practice, the hospital administration, and the state board. Let them know you did NOT consent to this unnecessary procedure and that her performing it violated your son's rights as a patient and your rights as his parent to informed consent on ALL aspects of the surgery he underwent.

Contact John Geisheker, an attorney with Doctors Opposing Circumcision. If you round up the names and addresses, he has a long letter full of medical references as to why retraction is unnecessary and harmful and he will send it to them.
post #6 of 14
The attorney for Doctors Opposing Circumcision, John Geisheker, will send a letter to the doctor/hospital pro bono (free) on your behalf telling them what they did was wrong and the consequences. It isn't a letter stating you'll sue but it is fully referenced and ought to get their attention.

Email him at docdirector.geisheker@gmail.com

Before you contact John, you will need the following information:

The name of the doctor who did this, the name of his/her practice and their (snail) mailing address.

The name of the hospital where the doctor has privileges (the hospital where they practice), and the mailing address (even if it didn’t happen at the hospital).

The name of the CEO or Administrator of the hospital, (even if it didn't happen in the hospital, find out where the offending doctor has privileges and send it to those hospitals).

The name of the hospital's risk manager.

The name of the head of the department (OB, peds, emergency, etc.).

Letters will also be sent to:

The state medical board in your state.

The Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (hospitals fear them like a boogeyman).

Gillian
post #7 of 14
First it worries about getting circ'ed under anthesia without your knowledge now with worries about getting retracted fully and fully cleaned while kids are under anthesia.

Why are Doctors still thinking that a Intact boy needs to be cleaned underneath ? It's been since 99 like 10 yrs since they stopped recommending forcible retraction.

So did this doctor assume he was retractable at age 2 or something.

My ex who is also my son's father didn't fully retract until he was 11 1/2 is what he told me!

So when doctors give me garbage about how he needs to be retracting by this age and I will say my son's father didn't retract until he was 11 1/2 and he's just fine.

That hushes them up until they need a reminder again !
post #8 of 14
Wow, if she did that to a girl it would be sexual abuse. She had no right to go in a 'clean things up'. It sounds like she retracted farther than she should have.
And yes, the penis washes fine just in a bath- there's no need to clean it better than that.
Your poor little guy, I hope he feels better soon.
Jessica
post #9 of 14
s to you and your little man. This happened to my neighbours son a few years ago(i think 4) too. The surgeon forcibly retracted him and then instructed them to keep retracting it and put numbing cream on it in the morning and at night. Poor little thing, took longer for his penis to feel better than his groin. I would write a letter of complaint at the very least and send along some proper intact care info. You just might protect other little guys from suffering the same.

Take care,
post #10 of 14
Oh my gosh. Talk about medical malpractice.

Definitely follow through with that letter. Give DS some time, things should readhere and he should start feeling better soon.
post #11 of 14
The fact that she makes the point of telling you that she did it while he was still under anesthesia makes it obvious to me that she knew what she did was traumatizing.
post #12 of 14
I hope to live to see the day when this "care" is classified as the physical assault on a sexual organ that it really is.

I am livid...and you really have to go far to get me livid!!!
post #13 of 14
This reminds me of teaching hospitals that have interns, medical students and residents come in to practice pelvic exams on anesthetized woman.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/03/12/Wo...without_.shtml

No one (especially doctors) felt that this was sexual assault either

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Previously, these institutions had routinely brought in students -- sometimes as many as three or four -- to conduct pelvic exams on unconscious women just before their gynecological surgeries and often without their consent.
post #14 of 14
What she did was a procedure called a synechotomy. A procedure you did not consent to. I'm so beyond upset right now.

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