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CDC wants US circ program

post #1 of 112
Thread Starter 
This is what Intact America's news letter read today:

"
AUGUST 2009
ACT NOW
Next week, officials from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) will be chairing a conference in Atlanta that will include discussions on how to introduce "large scale neonatal and adult male circumcision programs" to the United States.

Intact America will be on the ground to make sure the ethical problems inherent in such programs are not swept under the rug and ignored. "


They provided this link: http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/...tition_KEY=472

I dont even know what to think about this, execpt - Horrifying.
post #2 of 112
Not surprised at all....it is the CDC afterall
post #3 of 112


OMG, they can't be serious?

WHY?????

This just made me want to puke
post #4 of 112
And to think I used to be proud to be an American. *sigh*
post #5 of 112
Is there a link to somewhere that actually states that the CDC is doing this?

-Angela
post #6 of 112
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Is there a link to somewhere that actually states that the CDC is doing this?

-Angela
They did not add a link to a direct source and I am not sure what conference it is. I am going to email IA and ask for one.
post #7 of 112
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Originally Posted by So-Called View Post
And to think I used to be proud to be an American. *sigh*

I have SO been feeling this way lately! Norway is looking better and better these days...
post #8 of 112
The USA HAD a "circ program" back in the 70's, when parental consent was not obtained and everyone got circed... HIV spread in the USA despite this.

The huge problem is, CDC support/endorsement of circ will put pressure on many undecided Moms ... the expectation of a medical benefit. it will also increase insurance coverage of circ.
post #9 of 112
The CDC has been working hard to "remove financial barriers" to circumcision (in other words, get all Medicaid programs to pay), and has been working on their official guidelines and recommendations.

You can learn more and find links to key contacts at the CDC from the www.circumcisionandhiv.com website (click on CDC/AAP project)

regarding specific links to CDC items of interest:

http://www.cdcnpin.org/scripts/Displ...p?FundNbr=3731
this link is about the male circumcision trials they are currently running in the US

They are co-hosting a conference next week on HIV prevention in the United States, and several sessions are devoted, at least in part, to the "benefits" of circumcision.

The most troubling session is:
http://www.2009nhpc.org/search_abstract.asp?fid=224
The Introduction of Circumcision for HIV Prevention in non-circumcising US communities
the abstract actually lists things like lobbying both the AAP and Medicaid to endorse circumcision, and a goal of increasing circumcision 30% in African American and Hispanic communities in the US

Here is their current summary statement, while drafting their formal recommendations, as you can see, it is heavily pro-circumcision, it completely discounts risks and harms, as well as ethics, and it actually takes studies on adult males in Africa as the primary basis of their current thinking:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/fac...rcumcision.htm

So, while the CDC is investing all of this time and money into promoting circumcision for HIV prevention (the experiment that has already failed in America considering we have the highest rate of HIV AND non-religous newborn circumcision in the developed world) the CDC is choosing to turn a blind eye on all of the risks and harms of circumcision.

If you do contact them, ask them how many newborns die from circumcision every year (they don't know because they won't study this). Ask them how many severe botches their are, and how many MRSA outbreaks are from circumcision - all important public health and safety issues they are ignoring. Earlier this year, a baby in the Atlanta area got a $2.3 million settlement because part of his penis was cut off - did the CDC investigate how common this was? NO

If you have supportive pediatricians, other medical professional in your life - PLEASE talk with them- urge them to contact the CDC about this frightening waste of taxpayer resources.
post #10 of 112
I just realized that if the CDC really does go through with these recommendations then they will basically lose all credibility with me. If they can be this asinine I don't see how I can trust anything they have to say about any disease prevention issues.
post #11 of 112
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Is there a link to somewhere that actually states that the CDC is doing this?

-Angela
I just checked out the CDC conference website (http://www.2009nhpc.org/) but didn't see anything referencing circ. That doesn't mean it's not buried somewhere (there are so many abstracts!) but I wish they had included a source.
post #12 of 112
I stand corrected...

Session Title: Introducing Male Circumcision for HIV Prevention in Non-Circumcising Communities in the U.S.
Location: Hyatt Regency Atlanta (Hanover C)
Date and Time: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:15PM-6:00PM

It's a 45-minute session out of a 4-day conference. While I wholeheartedly agree that it's maddening, counterproductive, and ridiculous, I'm glad it's not like a whole conference to force people to circ!
post #13 of 112
I'll only add that I think it's instructive to see how other Western countries are approaching this issue. For example, the Australian Federation of AIDS Organization published this briefing paper in February 09:

http://www.afao.org.au/library_docs/...rcumcision.pdf

Quote:
An Australian-born man is estimated to have a 0.02% (0.0002) risk of HIV acquisition if he does not inject drugs or have sex with men. This very low risk means that the population health benefit of an intervention like generalised circumcision programs would be negligible.
post #14 of 112


All this work for NOTHING!
post #15 of 112
I'm reading this at work and am thoroughly saddened
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....and
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argh!!!
post #16 of 112
This is so stupid. Newborns aren't sexually active. Don't they know this? Americans are already a laughing stalk to the rest of the world. It doesn't help us to implement a mass circ as a"solution". Especially since they said this approach only works for "under developed countries".
post #17 of 112
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Originally Posted by fruitful womb View Post
This is so stupid. Newborns aren't sexually active. Don't they know this? Americans are already a laughing stalk to the rest of the world. It doesn't help us to implement a mass circ as a"solution". Especially since they said this approach only works for "under developed countries".
I know but this is the CDC. I'm sure they are figuring that it will be easier and cheaper to circumcise newborns than adults. :

I hate that it seems to be targeted at minorities, immigrants, and the poor. I really find that disturbing.
post #18 of 112


Who didn't see this coming? Once the HIV-circ trials in Africa were touted with acclaim and fanfare in the American media, it was only a matter of time. It doesn't matter if the data isn't applicable. It's "science" and if you argue AGAINST circ, you're now against "preventing disease".
post #19 of 112
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Originally Posted by TCA2008 View Post
The CDC has been working hard to "remove financial barriers" to circumcision (in other words, get all Medicaid programs to pay), and has been working on their official guidelines and recommendations.

You can learn more and find links to key contacts at the CDC from the www.circumcisionandhiv.com website (click on CDC/AAP project)

regarding specific links to CDC items of interest:

http://www.cdcnpin.org/scripts/Displ...p?FundNbr=3731
this link is about the male circumcision trials they are currently running in the US
I see. The potentially positive thing is the data could come out showing circ is ineffective in the battle against HIV in the US. It wouldn't be the first study to prove so. The problem is that depending on who is conducting the study, the data can be tailored to the researcher's favor.

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They are co-hosting a conference next week on HIV prevention in the United States, and several sessions are devoted, at least in part, to the "benefits" of circumcision.

The most troubling session is:
http://www.2009nhpc.org/search_abstract.asp?fid=224
The Introduction of Circumcision for HIV Prevention in non-circumcising US communities
the abstract actually lists things like lobbying both the AAP and Medicaid to endorse circumcision, and a goal of increasing circumcision 30% in African American and Hispanic communities in the US
Here is their current summary statement, while drafting their formal recommendations, as you can see, it is heavily pro-circumcision, it completely discounts risks and harms, as well as ethics, and it actually takes studies on adult males in Africa as the primary basis of their current thinking:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/fac...rcumcision.htm
Wasn't this already reported? I saw this study in the news somewhere. It was said the study wasn't taken very seriously.
post #20 of 112
Yep, great idea CDC! Maybe you can come out with a female circumcision program next. Afterall, there is some correlation between FGM and lower rates of HIV....

Oh, wait, never mind, I'm using behavior to protect myself from HIV. I think that I'll pass on circ.

Craziness.
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