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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
My son was given this as his constitutional remedy about a year ago. I have never really felt that it was the right one but that might just be me.

She gave us one dose last april - didn't tell us what potency. I am hesitant to go back to her as my ds didn't like and I don't have the $200 and she is not exactly nearby.

He has been sick off and on since May - upper respiratory viruses, an ear infection for which he was on antibiotics and now he is sick again and is croupy.

He has large tonsils but never sore throats. I have a lot of food issues and am not sure if he does or not. It is has also been a REALLY REALLY wet summer here and there is a lot of mold etc around in the atmosphere. We also just got two more kittens.

Ahh - this is really disjointed but I guess I would like to discuss calc carbonica as a consitutional and maybe his health in general?

I am worried that I don't have good access to homeopaths here and don't want to take him to an allergist so I kinda want to figure this out on my own.

He is also a slow teether and is working on his 6 year old molars which I think it exacerbating all this.

So..if anyone is still following me, what are your thoughts on calc carb as a consitutional?

thanks!
post #2 of 28
I don't have any experience using thi sremedy as a constitutional - perhaps someone else here does.
have you tried the abchomeopathy.com forum?
There are homeopaths on there and you can post specific questions.
hth
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post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestion - I'll give it a try. I really need to sit down and get all his symptoms etc in one place instead of flying around in my head. What I really want to do is fly back to WA state to my old homeopath. LOL
post #4 of 28
Try here: Homeopathy Support Thread and here: Acute Homeopathy Study Group thread

Personally, I don't believe that a mama could determine a constitutional remedy for her own family member, even if she were a homeopath. Our perspective alters our observations.

For acute dosing, I believe we could help on one of the threads above. I appreciate the challenge of your situation. And want to encourage you to consider gut healing. Where to start? Help 101

Basically, the gut is 70-80% of the immune system. It all starts with nutrient-dense foods, effective digestion (with adequate stomach acid), absorption of nutrients (in the gut with balanced microbials), and detoxification of the chemical byproducts of foods and environmental toxins by the liver, with adequate bio-available nutrients to support the detox pathways.

I would do whole food probiotics, cod liver oil, magnesium, vit. C, zinc, coconut oil, bone broths, green juices. Support the immune system.


Pat
post #5 of 28
I would start by taking a peek at the MM if you haven't already. It's not hte end all be all, but it's a start. What exactly do you want to talk about? It's a very common children's remedy, but has many pictures if that makes sense. Not every calc carb is going to present the same way.

So what are my thoughts on it as a constitutional? In general? It's a great remedy, with lots of information behind it. As a polycrest it's one of the bigger remedies and useful for many different acute and chronic issues.

When was his last dose? Delayed and difficult dentition is a keynote of calc carb. If it's his remedy that could help as opposed to clouding the picture. I see that difficulty as a good indication to take a remedy.

Is there any way given how far your homeopath is that she'll consult over the phone?

You aren't likely to find a constitutional online. abchomeopathy is a great site but it's intended for acutes.
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thank you both for the replies - we have been moving towards looking at healing the gut and I have seen the benefits of magnesium esp for all of us! I will look through those links, Pat.

I have looked at the MM and perhaps it is my own motherly bias but I feel he is more pulsatilla than calc carbonica. Perhaps they are linked? Complimentary? - this is where I get confused when the pictures overlap.

Anyway, she gave us one dose last spring and he had screaming night terrors an hour or so afterwards. We were only given one dose and I don't know the potency.

I didn't see any real improvements in things really - then last fall we battled pinworms which I treated with pills and then finally with avoiding too many sweets which seemed to work much better :>

He was healthy this winter but has had a cold every month since May and just seems depleted in a lot of ways.

He is anxious at night and doesn't really like to be alone - he wants me not his father. I guess in many ways there is a speed to him which just sits wrong with calc carb in my interpretation. However he is slow to teeth and slow maybe to gain independence? Not interested in growing up too fast, resists change, likes to be home etc.

He is also very strong willed which isn't really pulsatilla either. But he is ALWAYS better when he is outside. Always.

See there I start to go in circles :>

I guess what I want to talk about it what are the general pictures of calc and should I give him more of it - or should I just support his immune system and get a phone consult?

Sorry to continue to be so muddled - I am concerned about him going into this winter with a weak immune system and feeling guilt about passing on my own gut issues and family history of allergy asthma etc.

Thanks for your time!
post #7 of 28
Do both. I'd see the professional homeopath. I find it most helpful for the nuanced conundrum pieces.


Pat
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
nuanced conundrum indeed! You hit it on the head!

thanks!

BTW, am I alone in that every remedy I read about seems like it fits me? I drive myself crazy sometimes!
post #9 of 28



You are not alone!


Pat
post #10 of 28
A brief picture of calc carb. I'm sure I won't get everything.

So typically a calc carb baby is soft, pudgy and flabby with a larger head. They tend to sweat a lot-especially at night and have a slightly sour smell. They often look healthy (as opposed to other remedies in which a sickly child looks sick) and well fed. They tend to be on the slower side in terms of development as well as activity. They often have cradle cap, fontanelles take longer to close their teeth come in late, they can walk late, motor skills may be a bit behind. Metabolism is slow. Circulation may be slow. They may speak a bit late, though they are not slow witted....they know how to speak, they just often choose not to.

It is a cool remedy which means calc carbs will often be chilly. Exertion makes them tired.

They are imaginative and smart and tend to be very creative in their problem solving. They tend to not be overly cerebral, but use intuition and emotions to guide them.

They are generally pretty even tempered. Rarely will they be aggressive. They can, however have tempers. They actually tend to enjoy problem solving and are independent-not as eager to please as some other constitutional types. They like to do things their way.

Though they are generally calm they do have temper tantrums and often they come as a shock with no real cause to the outsider. Once they blow it's like a freight train, hard to stop. If you were to discover the cause of their dismay and rectify it they would find something else to continue to scream about. They are VERY obstinate. You can't "make" them do anything they choose not to do. Stubborn is a common word used to describe sweet calc carbs. They can't be forced to eat, they are picky when they do and capricious at that. Even though they don't eat a lot they are rather robust *looking.* As they get older they begin to change their tune and expand their palates. Well, to an extent. They lean towards gluten and dairy!

They don't respond well to pressure, and don't tend to fight back. They have a tendency not to stand up to authority figures.

As older children and adults they are easily overwhelmed. While they are good workers they have a difficult time with mental exercises (they don't like mental exertion) and prefer to be in a quiet place that is familiar to them. They commonly complain of stomachaches that are a manifestation of mental distress. They like repetition....they can eat and read and watch and do the same things over and over again. Familiarity and routine is good.

They have a lot of fear and anxiety. This is big in calc carb. They tend to carry minor traumas-these are the kids that if something happens they will relive it (with you!) for years to come. They feel deeply for others (people and animals) and want things to be fair. This is very important. Everyone should feel good.

They are sensitive to criticism as well. This remedy is from the shell of an oyster and you can often see this. A calc carb has no external "shell." They need protection and that is what the remedy gives. It also lends strength and allows them to stand up and own their place in the world. It can alleviate anxiety and fears, provide confidence and protection.

This is more the emotional/mental stuff. If you want more of the physical we can do that too....hopefully this is helpful to you.
post #11 of 28
oh, and to answer your previous question some say that puls is an acute of calc carb. Boericke says that calc carb can work when puls fails. So yes....they are similar in many ways. Other complimentaries are silica, lycopodium, belladonna, chamomilla.

The big thing is to look at the overall picture and not get too lost in the details. You rarely find someone that fits every piece of the remedy.

FWIW he sounds like a calc carb to me!
post #12 of 28


Interesting. Is that the type of stuff that's in a MM? Maybe I should read more, a _lot_ of that fit me.

Sorry, OP, I'm obviously a learner, I don't have anything helpful to add, but that was just too interesting to pass by.
post #13 of 28
Tanya,
No. That is a personality profile. This is the MM:

http://www.homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c/calc.htm
post #14 of 28
This is very interesting, PB. Guess what my homeopath changed my remedy to just last week???
post #15 of 28
well, since I know what you had last I'm gonna say calc carb! It seems to be common to walk the calc/lyc/sulph trio.
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
PB - a thousand thank yous! Very clear and informative. Many many of those criteria(?) really sound like him - the physical descriptions not so much but many of it really fits.

I apreciate your time in typing that out.

I have a vial of boiron 6c - would this be an all right potency to administer to him? What are your thoughts on this - also the complimentaries you mentions part. silicia and belladonna have been helpful in the past for him.

thanks again!
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
well, since I know what you had last I'm gonna say calc carb! It seems to be common to walk the calc/lyc/sulph trio.
Yes, it was!

I wanted to say to the OP, I agree that it's true that sometimes you don't always see a why a constitutional remedy was chosen, and you can sometimes read about it and think it doesn't seem to fit. But there is just so much that goes into choosing a constitutional remedy and it's very hard to know. I just took calc-c as a remedy, and I had a similar feeling, reading about it online. I didn't really see how it fit. But I think that's because there is so much more to constitutional prescribing. I would second going back to the homeopath or finding someone new, especially for the complex issues you are describing, like repeated colds and diminished immunity.

Homeopathy has been so incredibly successful for us over the summer. We had tried it before with limited success, but we have had some powerful results this time.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by QDB View Post
PB - a thousand thank yous! Very clear and informative. Many many of those criteria(?) really sound like him - the physical descriptions not so much but many of it really fits.

I apreciate your time in typing that out.

I have a vial of boiron 6c - would this be an all right potency to administer to him? What are your thoughts on this - also the complimentaries you mentions part. silicia and belladonna have been helpful in the past for him.

thanks again!
I'm going to guess that if a homeopath administered it it was likely in a much higher potency. In general (and this is not an absolute) low doses focus on the physical issues and high doses focus on emotional. Mid range doses do a good job of covering both. That said finding the remedy is only part of the game. Finding the correct potency and dosing schedule is another ball game all together.

You are probably better off finding someone. The issue with low potencies (and this will be depending on the vital force of the individual) is that the duration of action is less, so it needs to be taken more frequently. This can be an issue. Taking it too often if not indicated can result in a proving. This is where guidance comes in handy. Plus when treating a case from a classical perspective there are things you'd look for that an at-home prescriber might now see. Now if he were to get sick and the calc carb fit, then you can certainly use that potency. I wouldn't expect major shifts from it though. Hope that made sense.
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 
Yes, that does make sense. Thanks!
post #20 of 28
Oh my goodness, PB, I just read the description you posted of calc carb and it is so my dd. I gave a dose to my dd the other day from dowsing that it was right and I didn't know much about it except she is a very sweaty and very late at getting any teeth. Now I know for sure it was the right remedy.

I am curious about the connection the remedy has with calcium absorbtion/ teething? It is a calcium right?
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