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Autism listed as adverse event on DTAP vaccine insert on fda website..

post #1 of 79
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Hi all... Well I have to say I was really surprised to see this.

This is from the fda package insert for the tripedia vaccine.

Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../UCM101580.pdf

I wish I could have seen the vaccine inserts before my son received his vaccines. He has autism, which I believe vaccines played a role in. I just wanted to post this. I wish these adverse events were more widely known...
post #2 of 79
Wow.
post #3 of 79
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Originally Posted by Juvysen View Post
Wow.
Exactly what I said!!


If parents were able to read this at the dr's office, would there even be a question as to whether or not to get the shot? Probably why they dont show it!
post #4 of 79
What gets me the most is they knew it before putting it on the market and approved it anyway
post #5 of 79
I'm speechless also.
post #6 of 79
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Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X View Post
What gets me the most is they knew it before putting it on the market and approved it anyway


Not suprising to me at all that they would do this!! :
post #7 of 79
This particular vax has been on the market since 1996. And what has happened to the autism rate since then?
post #8 of 79
Very interesting but not surprising... I'm so thankful for this board.
post #9 of 79
Wow. I'm not surprised though. At least they admit that vaccines may cause autism!
post #10 of 79
They have to list everything that has ever been reported as a potential adverse effect. So if I reported that I experienced a craving for poached egg on toast after being vaccinated they'd have to list it. It doesn't mean there is any evidence that the alleged adverse effect was caused by the vax.
post #11 of 79
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Originally Posted by tessie View Post
They have to list everything that has ever been reported as a potential adverse effect. So if I reported that I experienced a craving for poached egg on toast after being vaccinated they'd have to list it. It doesn't mean there is any evidence that the alleged adverse effect was caused by the vax.
So autism is a potential adverse effect.
post #12 of 79
Its law to give the consumer/patient the side effects of perscription pills, so why is it not the law to do the same with vaccines? That doesn't make sense to me at all.
post #13 of 79
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So autism is a potential adverse effect.
No. It means that someone, somewhere, had the vax and was then diagnosed with autism. It doesn't mean that the vax caused the autism but because it's been reported as a possibility they have to list it.

If I had a vax for tetanus then caught a cold you could say that the vax must have been the cause, rather than the two things being coincidental.
post #14 of 79
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No. It means that someone, somewhere, had the vax and was then diagnosed with autism. It doesn't mean that the vax caused the autism but because it's been reported as a possibility they have to list it.

If I had a vax for tetanus then caught a cold you could say that the vax must have been the cause, rather than the two things being coincidental.
Not someone, somewhere reported it, try thousands and thousands of parents who have seen their child develop autism after vaccines.... They can put it out there in plain writing and there are still some who will not believe it. I know, my husband's family is this way, saying their is no connection between autism and vaccines. Im sure they would debate with me after showing them this vaccine insert also.
post #15 of 79
Reading this gave me chills and sent me hunting down DS's shot info.

Dec 27th 2006 my son quit breathing. He was later Diagnosed with apena. When asked at the hospital about anything new, and a zillion other question I remember saying he got shots today, to which I was told shots would not make your child quit breathing. After staying @ the hospital 3 days they sent him home on a apena monitor. And I never thought about shots hurting my child and continued to vax DS until recently. My son received this shot the day he quit breathing among other shots ( a total of 6 vax that day )

Anyhow I just wanted to kinda say that MDC has helped me learn alot and share my story. And maybe it will help another child..
post #16 of 79
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Originally Posted by creekprincess View Post
Reading this gave me chills and sent me hunting down DS's shot info.

Dec 27th 2006 my son quit breathing. He was later Diagnosed with apena. When asked at the hospital about anything new, and a zillion other question I remember saying he got shots today, to which I was told shots would not make your child quit breathing. After staying @ the hospital 3 days they sent him home on a apena monitor. And I never thought about shots hurting my child and continued to vax DS until recently. My son received this shot the day he quit breathing among other shots ( a total of 6 vax that day )

Anyhow I just wanted to kinda say that MDC has helped me learn alot and share my story. And maybe it will help another child..

That is so scary. I am not surprised at any serious side effect that a vaccine might cause. I am glad to have MDC also!
post #17 of 79
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Originally Posted by tessie View Post
No. It means that someone, somewhere, had the vax and was then diagnosed with autism. It doesn't mean that the vax caused the autism but because it's been reported as a possibility they have to list it.

If I had a vax for tetanus then caught a cold you could say that the vax must have been the cause, rather than the two things being coincidental.
And how is that any different than what I said? Not understanding where your "NO" is coming from in relation to my post.
post #18 of 79
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And how is that any different than what I said?
It's different statistically. I think that b/c the anti-vax / vaccine-choice side relies so heavily on pointing out the untruths, half-truths, statistics, and poor-quality research of the pro-vaccine side, that we need to be very careful to not exaggerate and to understand what we are talking about.

Having autism listed on the package insert as a condition that happened post-vaccination is a great step in the right direction of informed consent. It DOES NOT mean that the vaccine cause the autism. It DOES NOT mean that a vaccinated and unvaccinated group were compared and it was shown that the vaccinated group developed autism in higher numbers following the vaccination. If you read more package inserts, you will find deaths from car wrecks listed as events that happened post vaccination. I *think* that the manufacturers are required to list any poor outcome that occurs within a limited time period after the vaccine is administered.

If we take these inserts and say that they show that autism is caused by DTaP, doctors and others will dismiss our valid vaccine concerns as coming from uneducated parents who don't understand study design, methodology, and statistics.

Please spread that package inserts and encourage your friends to read them! But don't attribute incorrect statistical strength to the post-vaccination events.

DTA: This is coming from a mom of a totally unvaccinated child who does believe that many neurological and autoimmune disorders are likely caused by vaccines. I'm only advocating for correct use of terminology so as to protect our credibility. I'm not debating weather or not autism is caused by DTaP.
post #19 of 79
You also get things like teething, Anorexia, uteropelvic junction obstruction, and testicular atrophy listed in some vaccines; it just a serial collection of everything that happened. In the largest rotavirus trial they list death because one kid in the vaccine group died. But if you read the actual paper you see he died in a car accident-- still had to be listed though.

Some of this stuff simply comes from VAERS- everything that is posted there post licensing.
post #20 of 79
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If autism were rare and not 1 in 100, then I probably would not have thought much of seeing autism on the adverse events list. But the fact is, going from 1 in 10,000 cases of autism when there were 10 vaccines to 1 in 100 cases when there are now 36 vaccines is a little bit too much to be just a coincidence or "better diagnosing." JMO I know not everyone agrees!
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