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I had my son 2 /12 weeks ago and he was born tongue tied (I was too). The LC gave me a shield and recommended we get his frenulum snipped. I thought he was getting enough milk because he had a ton of wet and poopy diapers but he wasn't gaining weight. We also thought he was just a fussy baby until we realized he wasn't eating enough and was hungry all the time. We had to supplement for a bit which I hated doing but he needed to gain some weight. We ended up getting his frenulum snipped the other day and breastfeeding is worse since then. He absolutely cannot latch on. I worked with the LC the other day and she tried so hard to get him to latch. She then recommended that after I try to put him at the breast I need to pump and give him bottles so he can eat. I agreed with her since he needs food but oh man, when I first put that bottle to his lips I sobbed my heart out. I know the most important thing is that he is getting my milk and gaining weight but I want so badly to be able to resume breastfeeding. Not to mention it is exhausting pumping every 2-3 hours around the clock. I cry while I am pumping and my husband is feeding Mason with a bottle. It's killing me. I am trying like crazy to get him to latch and he just can't. We see the LC again tomorrow but what can I do to teach him to latch? It's like he doesn't know what to do now that he can move his tongue. It feels like he is nibbling on me nad I am trying everything I can to get him to change what he is doing. To top it off we are both being treated for thrush. It's been so hard and my emotions are on high right now. My supply isn't the greatest yet (I can maybe get a little under 2 ounces per pumping session) but I am going out today to get some things to help increase that. I just really, really, really want him to learn to latch properly. I just didn't think something that is so natural would be so hard. I had visions of walking around with Mason in my wrap while I was feeding him. I did not have visions sitting on the couch with a bottle in his mouth. I'm trying so hard. I need someone who has BTDT. Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I'm just a sad mama right now.
post #2 of 6
Try your local LLL leader.

Liz
post #3 of 6
Hugs to you mama, you are doing a great job w/your baby, be easy on yourself. I admire your dedication to your lo.

Keep working w/the LC, def find a LLL near you, maybe try and get baby to latch when he is sleepy or in a warm bath, sometimes that helps. Let him be against your bare breasts and just cuddle and let him find his way to your nipple.

Can you use an SNS so that baby is working on the latch and still getting your pumped milk? I don't know if that would work in your situation but it might be something to talk to the LC about.

Hang in there, I have met moms who have gotten bf going after weeks, months of bottlefeeding. You guys can do it!
post #4 of 6
yes - my son was tongue tied. we didn't find out until he was almost six weeks, after that long of nursing hell. it was so hard. it took a week after the clip for my son's latch to improve. i still used a shield here and there - that seemed to help him figure out how to open his mouth wide and get his tongue into position. i also pumped and gave him bottles. i couldn't keep up with pumping, so he did get a bottle of formula in the middle of the night for about a month, given by dh - this allowed me to get three hours of sleep in a row and that made a REALLY big difference in my mental state. after about eight weeks, things got better - i was able to do bottle feedings less and less and he nursed more and more.

the ladies at the www.kellymom.com forum got me through this rough time. i was consulting an LC and she couldn't seem to help us (didn't even recognize the tongue-tie). i would highly recommend going over there.

also, you should apply Lansinoh breast cream to your breasts after every single nursing or pumping session. it is non-toxic to the baby and will help your breast heal in between each session. i tried so hard to use breastmilk to help my nipples heal in between attempts and it just didn't work well enough.

getting 2.5 oz. at a pumping session is actually GREAT! a pump is not nearly as efficient as a nursing baby, so you can't compare amounts. good job!

you can do this! you have already done great. i know it's so hard right now.
post #5 of 6
Hugs to you mama. I'm sure things are going to get better soon. I just wanted to point out that if you have thrush, it might not be a good idea to use Lansinoh, as that can prolong the infection or make it worse. Good luck!
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Thank you so much for your words of support. It definitely helps!
I have the name of the LLL leader in my area and I will give her a call tomorrow after I see the LC in the morning. I have been to kellymom and found some good info over there as well. I'm wondering what you all would recommend to boost my supply? I just got Mother's Milk tea, fenugreek and oatmeal. How much do I take of each every day? The LC recommended eating oatmeal twice a day but should I drink the tea AND take fenugreek as well?
Also, I do have an SNS...the LC gave it to me but I found it really frustrating. Mason kept ripping it off and milk kept dripping and since he can't latch he was getting so annoyed with it. I am willing to try it again, maybe I will bring it with me tomorrow.
I am just really determined to do this. I am definitely grateful he is getting my milk but I want to breastfeed him. Again, thank you for your help and support. I am feeling a little better this afternoon.
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