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Sound familiar...or not? Frequent urge to pee.

post #1 of 12
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Hello all!
I'm writing here because my gut tells me this might be a foreskin issue, but I may be wrong.
My 4 year old had a 'bout' of unexplained frequent urination in January (2009) which lasted about 4 weeks. He would have the urge to pee, but nothing much would come out, maybe a few drops. He had tons of tests, and nothing unusual was found. Our Dr looked at his penis, but did not retract it. I retracted the foreskin just enough for her to see the tip of his penis (the foreskin was not retracted over the penis, just gently pushed a tiny bit to see the urethral opening), because she wanted to see if it looked ok, and it did. No swab was taken (I was thinking yeast maybe?). The Dr mentioned something called 'unexplained frequent urination' and we left it at that. Well, it has recurred, and we're going on week 6 here. He's had two urine tests, and we have a requisition for an ultrasound (to rule out stuff internally, I guess), but nobody has looked at his penis. He says his penis is bothering him, he'll often roll over onto his belly with his hands covering it (clothed or not). he doesn't say it hurts or itches, just that it is bothering him. The peeing occurs most frequently at night, but sometimes during the day too. It might be behavioural, he might be a bit worried about starting JK in the fall (although he is not expressing this, and he is very verbal and talks about his feelings quite freely). I just don't know where to go with this. We're getting the ultrasound this week, but should I request a swab too, in case it is a yeast infection or bacterial infection? There is no indication of an infection, but I don't really know what I would be looking for anyway...
Any advice would be helpful.
Thank you!
post #2 of 12
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post #3 of 12
My only guess is that he is starting the separation process. Perhaps it isn't exactly really painful for him, but achy and bothersome. And it can come and go as more of the mucosal lining begins to detach.

That's my best guess.

As for the peeing thing, sometimes when you've got irritated genitals, it just feels like peeing should help relieve them. I know that happens with me occasionally.
post #4 of 12
Could it be allergy related? DS has a dairy allergy and it results in frequent urination.
post #5 of 12
Isn't it also a sign of diabetes?
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone!
He was tested for diabetes, and it's not that. Also, for anyone lurking, a diabetic would have frequent urination with lots of pee, whereas my son has the urge to pee, but nothing (or only a few drops) comes out. I really think it's a 'feeling' he gets (maybe from the beginning of separation, or maybe some other irritation) in the penis, near the tip. That's where he describes feeling what he is feeling.
We're going for the ultrasound tomorrow, to rule out other stuff. Hopefully this will resolve on its own soon!
post #7 of 12
First off this is not a foreskin issue. Even if he had some type of UTI, UTI is not caused by the foreskin. One thing is fore sure he does NOT have a bacterial infection. Symptoms of bacterial infections are extreme swelling of penis up through the groin and fever. You would know if there was an infection.

I suspect this could be behavioral in combination with normal separation. Separation has many different symptoms. Some discomfort can be one of these symptoms. You can read more about this phase here:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...893&highlight=

One thing you want to be sure of is that no one manipulates his foreskin. This can actually cause problems.

A soak in a nice warm bath with about 1/3 cup of baking soda often soothes some of the discomforts of the normal separation process.
post #8 of 12
Another thread you might find helpful http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=764732

Like tutu said if it was a bacterial infection or even yeast you would be seeing something. I hope you get answers soon but I honestly think this is probably just normal seperation for him.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thank you both so much, the information (and links) were very helpful and reassuring. I knew not to touch/retract my son's foreskin, but I didn't realize that what I had done (exposing the tip for the DR) also qualifies as a no-no. Lesson learned. I am thankful that I did not allow her to do it, and that I was super careful, but there will be no more manipulating of his foreskin (except by him!). I think he is feeling some separation, so I will try the baking soda bath, to offer him some comfort.
Thank you all for the kind words and support. I really wish there was more info available to us moms who chose not to circ. I even live in an area where the rates of circumcision are very low (Toronto), but even here, our Drs don't seem to understand how crucial it is to leave the foreskin TOTALLY alone. Hopefully, as more and more boys remain intact, the general population will become more educated on all of this.
post #10 of 12
Glad we could help! It is a slow process getting these Drs up to speed about the normal development of the intact boy.
post #11 of 12
Children often have issues with stuff like this during a growth spurt. When the body changes the sensations can get a bit mixed up. Most often a parent notices this when it results in frequent potty accidents. I suspect that you DS is over compensating by going at every little sensation he feels.

When he's doing the "He says his penis is bothering him, he'll often roll over onto his belly with his hands covering it (clothed or not)." I suspect he is having erections, and just doesn't really understand them yet.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yes. Erections are abundant (at bedtime, mostly). Thank you.
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