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post #41 of 63
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Originally Posted by dessismama View Post
Vitamin D modulates the immune system and thus prevents a cytokine storm!! No worries about taking too much unless you have kidney stones like me...

As for elderberries, no one has proved or produced an example of where it caused a cytokine storm. I gave it in huge amounts to my 3 kids who have recovered from what must have been the swine flu and none had trouble with it--in fact, they recovered in 3 days, never got bad coughs, etc. I credit the elderberry for it!!
OHHHHHHH, wow! I'm soooo glad you cleared this up! DS has had soer throat since last Fri. & fever since last Sat. He had been on 5,000 IUs before & for the first maybe 2 or 3 days he was sick, then I stopped b/c of the cyto.storm thing. now that he's missed a few days & still battling a fever, should I give him like 10,000IUs for a couple days????
post #42 of 63
I think the garlic in potatoes would work. DS is anti clothes especially at night. I cannot get anything on him or he freaks out. Luckily,we live in a warm climate. I actually just made something similar to mashed potatoes but it includes spinach, onions and garlic. I put way too much garlic in and did not chop it good enough b/c I was in a hurry. Still tasted fine to me. I love garlic.
post #43 of 63
I just finally got thru these videos w Dr Russell Blaylock (neurosurgeon) and Dr Mercola. The fourth video he talks about the cytokine storm issue and vit D3 as well. Its worth listening to all of them. Eases my fear about the swine flu thing alot.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-Flu-Shot.aspx
post #44 of 63
H5N1, the strain mentioned in one of the first articles given in this thread, is the avian (bird) flu, not the H1N1 swine flu. There are likely different cytokines involved so the previously mentioned article about what to avoid may or may not apply to H1N1.

Here's yet another article about the flu, the benefits of elderberry, and how zinc, selenium and sublingual B-12 can minimize the T1/T2 immune system imbalance that causes cytokine storms.
post #45 of 63
I was thinking about this too (I didn't read the whole thread, btw, just the OP).

My mom has MS (multiple sclerosis). She takes a drug that kills her immune system. I mean, she pretty much has none to speak of. My mom's neurologist said that she should skip the H1N1 vaccine, and not bother with any other flu vaccines either. He said, for her, swine flu, was the least of her worries and the chances of her getting it were slim.

My mom works as a professor, at a large university ... so she's in contact with lots of students. Funny thing is, she's never had the flu - even when I've been sick with a flu, and she took care of me - she never got anything.

I was thinking about this - if she has no immune system, how does she not get sick? And, why would her neurologist say to skip the vaccine if she has such a low immune system. So, I wonder if there is something to it - about certain flu viruses being more serious for those who have strong immune systems.

But, I'm no expert ... I'm just theorizing here!

Either way, I'm still making sure to eat immune supporting foods.
post #46 of 63
This is great info. Unfortunately, I'm very allergic to garlic . I'll have to stick with my vit c and d and healthy eating.
post #47 of 63
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I was thinking about this - if she has no immune system, how does she not get sick?
Because her body doesn't react. That's what no immune system means. She doesn't have the ability to react to bugs. She could have a body running rampant with germs, but her body won't send out the white blood cells to stop them, etc.

My friend had chronic idiopathic hepatitis from 13 to 38 (when she got a liver transplant), took MORE immunosupressive drugs then than she does now with the new liver, and NEVER "got sick".

Of course, she passed illness around like typhoid mary...she didn't know she "had" the germs so didn't know when to avoid people...now that her drug regimen is lower (doubt many people could say that...lowering the immunusuppressives after a transplant) she does react to things, and gets colds and such. But before, she didn't react to them at all.
post #48 of 63
Good source for vitamin D?

I'm about to place a Frontier order - what is a good option for vitamin D for both the adults and kids? I'm ok with 2 different versions just want to know what is best. TIA!
post #49 of 63
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Good source for vitamin D?

I'm about to place a Frontier order - what is a good option for vitamin D for both the adults and kids? I'm ok with 2 different versions just want to know what is best. TIA!
I just bought the Carlson's D-Drops, which has 2,000 IUs per drop, for the kids.
post #50 of 63
(Those of us following this thread needs a smilie that is downing raw garlic instead.)
post #51 of 63
So my 5 yr old started with high fever, clear runny nose and cough last evening. What should I try to give him?

Vit C
Vit D
garlic (in raw honey is the only way I can get it into him, what do you think? unless I do it on the bottoms of feet)
zinc
extra Vitamin A or extra FCLO?
post #52 of 63
I took extra vit D (10,000 IU) until my symptoms went away (5 days?) and I took Kyolic liquid inside capsules 4-6 filles #0 caps a day. I had the illness, whatever it was, the least of anyone in my house. I had a headache and sore throat for those days, once in awhile my nose would get stuffy, I was tired too. Everyone else has a bad cough still and colored mucous after a week.
post #53 of 63
Following this thread.
post #54 of 63
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I just bought the Carlson's D-Drops, which has 2,000 IUs per drop, for the kids.

Thanks. I just hit Vitamin Shoppe because I wanted something today.
I found Hero Slice of Life Vitamin D3 Gummies - they have 1,000 IUI. They are labled for adults but I would think they would be fine for kids. Is there an IUI max we need to keep in mind???
post #55 of 63
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Originally Posted by kerikadi View Post
Thanks. I just hit Vitamin Shoppe because I wanted something today.
I found Hero Slice of Life Vitamin D3 Gummies - they have 1,000 IUI. They are labled for adults but I would think they would be fine for kids. Is there an IUI max we need to keep in mind???
For the short term, no worries about giving too much. Only long term. There was a link earlier in this thread to the vitamin d council and they have reccomendations by body weight for vit d.
post #56 of 63
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Originally Posted by momofmine View Post
So my 5 yr old started with high fever, clear runny nose and cough last evening. What should I try to give him?

Vit C
Vit D
garlic (in raw honey is the only way I can get it into him, what do you think? unless I do it on the bottoms of feet)
zinc
extra Vitamin A or extra FCLO?
Wondering the same thing. I was initially following this thread just to have the info. My three girls have had a mild cough for two days but nothing that concerned me. Now my 7 year old is running 103 oral. We generally don't treat fevers and I've read the info about NSAIDs and Tylenol freaks me out.
I guess my question is - if her fever gets worse tonight what should we do?
I'm not interesting in getting a true diagnosis because I'm not sure it would change my course of action. I have a great ped I can call when I need to but have NO interest in heading to the ER. I just want to know what we can/should do if the fever gets high so we can have a plan in place. Maybe there is something I can pick up before the stores close.

TIA
post #57 of 63
I'm curious as to WHY it is happening this way.

My friend called today. Her five year old daughter, healthy as a horse, got the swine flu and ended up in the hospital for three days. She was unable to swallow and lift her head...and had been perfectly fine earlier.

After reading these posts, I'm off to feed garlic to the family as if vampires were after us.
post #58 of 63
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I'm curious as to WHY it is happening this way.

My friend called today. Her five year old daughter, healthy as a horse, got the swine flu and ended up in the hospital for three days. She was unable to swallow and lift her head...and had been perfectly fine earlier.

After reading these posts, I'm off to feed garlic to the family as if vampires were after us.
I'm not an alarmist at all but posts like this freak me out. We are a very healthy family but that doesn't seem to make a difference with H1N1.

I tried adding garlic to their pasta today and got it past 2 of them. I added some to the chicken noodle soup I made for dinner but only 1 of them ate that. Not sure how to get my kids to eat fresh garlic but I just bought more fresh at the store.
post #59 of 63
You can try making hummus with fresh garlic. That is what I do when we are sick. My son will eat it with crackers and celery.
post #60 of 63
Savoire Faire, how is your friend's little girl doing?
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