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post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
I finally got my hmo to test both my dd's vitamin d levels yesterday - yay!
However, last evening when dh got home I learned that he had given them each one vit d supplement yesterday (1,000)!!! I haven't been giving them that supp yet in hopes of getting them tested. Meanwhile dh & I have been reading so much about it's use in preventing flus and bolstering immunity etc - so he went ahead and gave it to them yesterday pf all days!
My question is, how much is that going to skew the test results???
Thanks so much for any thoughts on this.
sandy
post #2 of 32
I wouldn't worry...since it's something you should (IMO) be giving anyway (unless your kids gets tons of sunshine year round without sunblock). the number that comes back if they have only ever had 1 1,000mg supplement recently will be fairly representaive of their current levels. When I wanted to see if supplemnting was helping my levels my ND had me taking increased doses for 1 month before retesting
post #3 of 32
The test will still be accurate. Don't worry.

I'd start giving them 1000 IU (of D3) regularly now. No need to wait for the test results.
post #4 of 32
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much ladies!
I will keep them on 1,00/day til results come back.
Good to know. I feel much better.
Thanks!
post #5 of 32
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Originally Posted by sbgrace View Post
The test will still be accurate. Don't worry.

I'd start giving them 1000 IU (of D3) regularly now. No need to wait for the test results.
Not to hijack your thread but how much D should a 14m.o. be getting? I give 800Ius a day in water. Is that plenty?
post #6 of 32
I came on looking for the info on how much to give my 30 month old who is 35 pounds. I asked her ped about testing her levels and she said she doesn't usually do that but would order the tests. Aren't there different kinds of tests for Vit D? I'm wondering if she doesn't usually do it if she'll order the right one.
The guy at our health store said at dd's weight I should give her 2000iu's a day of D3. Is that okay?
post #7 of 32
The correct test is the 25 (OH) D test and you want in the high normal range.

It really depends on food intake and sunlight how much vitamin D to give. I would give more in Seattle in the winter for example.

Ideally you should be testing a couple times a year to monitor your dosages and find out what your body needs to keep you in range, but unfortunately I know that is unrealistic in today's managed health care.

Also know that vitamin A is essential for vitamin D regulation as well. Both vitamins prevent toxicity of either one. That is why high vitamin cod liver oil is a great way to get your D. Since we live in Massachusetts in summer I make sure we get our sun and our CLO. And in the fall/winter/early spring we take extra D in addition to CLO (Radiant Life or Blue Ice) providing 5000 IU of A and 500 IU of D per 1/2 teaspoon.
post #8 of 32
GrassrootsHealth has a Vit D study you can join that tests you twice a year for Vit D levels at a cost of $40 per test. My husband joined it since his levels were horribly low and thought this would be easier and cheaper than going to the doctor's office.
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by KT'smama View Post
I came on looking for the info on how much to give my 30 month old who is 35 pounds. I asked her ped about testing her levels and she said she doesn't usually do that but would order the tests. Aren't there different kinds of tests for Vit D? I'm wondering if she doesn't usually do it if she'll order the right one.
The guy at our health store said at dd's weight I should give her 2000iu's a day of D3. Is that okay?
It's the 25 (OH) D test and she might order the wrong one so check with her. I give my kids 2000 IU per day and one is a little less weight wise than her. That's considered a safe dose for children over age one. AT that level my kids were a little under ideal (in the 40's) in the winter. It is good to find her number as she may need more or less. You want her at 50 ideally. The tests often say 25 and up is ok and it's actually deficient. You're deficient until at least 40.
post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by mom61508 View Post
Not to hijack your thread but how much D should a 14m.o. be getting? I give 800Ius a day in water. Is that plenty?
Possibly not/wouldn't have been enough for my kids. That might be ok for her. It's best to get a test so you know. The test is 25 (OH) D. I'd do at least 1000 IU of D3 if you can't test her unless she's in the sun at mid-day a lot.
post #11 of 32
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Originally Posted by RosesArePurple View Post
GrassrootsHealth has a Vit D study you can join that tests you twice a year for Vit D levels at a cost of $40 per test. My husband joined it since his levels were horribly low and thought this would be easier and cheaper than going to the doctor's office.
cool. I haven't heard of the test they use. Is that accurate?
post #12 of 32
What exactly is "high vitamin cod liver oil?" What brands do you use? We use Ascenta NutraSea +D, because it is produced locally. It says it uses sardines, mackerel and anchovies, in addition to vitamin E and green tea extract. Dd won't take it, though. Is this different than cod liver oil? Is CLO better? Does anyone know a really good-tasting vitamin D supplement for kids? Is it okay if taken in a multivitamin? That way she'd get vitamin A, too. What about a really good tasting CLO? Can I mix CLO in something, like chocolate syrup as a pp mentioned? I do give dd 400 IU of a "gummy" vitamin D3 that she likes. I guess I could just give her more? And there's a gummy Omega-3, too. Is that better than nothing, if it's all she'll take? I have lots of questions about this!
post #13 of 32
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Originally Posted by carfreemama View Post
What exactly is "high vitamin cod liver oil?" What brands do you use? We use Ascenta NutraSea +D, because it is produced locally. It says it uses sardines, mackerel and anchovies, in addition to vitamin E and green tea extract. Dd won't take it, though. Is this different than cod liver oil? Is CLO better? Does anyone know a really good-tasting vitamin D supplement for kids? Is it okay if taken in a multivitamin? That way she'd get vitamin A, too. What about a really good tasting CLO? Can I mix CLO in something, like chocolate syrup as a pp mentioned? I do give dd 400 IU of a "gummy" vitamin D3 that she likes. I guess I could just give her more? And there's a gummy Omega-3, too. Is that better than nothing, if it's all she'll take? I have lots of questions about this!
We use Carlsons Cod Liver oil, lemon flavor. Not sure if it is considered "high vitamin", but I do know dh did a ton of research on the topic before buying it and he was satisfied that it is the best. It cost around $40 a bottle, so it better be! We've been giving it to our dd since she was about 10 months old (we all take it).

On the topic of vitamin D, just want to pass along a good article about vitamin D testing from Women to Women (an awesome holistic health site):
To test or not to test — the ABC’s of vitamin D testing and treatment
post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by carfreemama View Post
What exactly is "high vitamin cod liver oil?" What brands do you use? We use Ascenta NutraSea +D, because it is produced locally. It says it uses sardines, mackerel and anchovies, in addition to vitamin E and green tea extract. Dd won't take it, though. Is this different than cod liver oil? Is CLO better? Does anyone know a really good-tasting vitamin D supplement for kids? Is it okay if taken in a multivitamin? That way she'd get vitamin A, too. What about a really good tasting CLO? Can I mix CLO in something, like chocolate syrup as a pp mentioned? I do give dd 400 IU of a "gummy" vitamin D3 that she likes. I guess I could just give her more? And there's a gummy Omega-3, too. Is that better than nothing, if it's all she'll take? I have lots of questions about this!
You can go to http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...dliveroil.html
The best CLO is Blue Ice or I *think* radiant life. I get mine from greenpastures.org We like the fermented cinnamon flavor. DD is 14m.o. and takes it most days by the spoon with a little juice but will take is easy in a smoothie.
Carlsons is OK but the brand above is much better quality IMO. You don't want synthetic A or D and I believe Carlsons may contain synthetics.

I do use carlsons Vitamin D3 drops for DD and I. Got that from vitacost I think...it's been awhile. You can also head over to the Traditional Foods forum there's a lot of info on there about CLO

I would avoid all the kid gummys, etc IMO opinion. Most have alot of unhealthy fillers and sugar. I guess there are decent brands but I want pure ya know
post #15 of 32
Thread Starter 
Well we got our labs back for my dd's
8 yr old = 24 (30-80)
12 yr old = 41 (30-80)

How much should I give daily now do you think?
We're in Seattle.
TIA!!!
post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by carfreemama View Post
What exactly is "high vitamin cod liver oil?" What brands do you use? We use Ascenta NutraSea +D, because it is produced locally. It says it uses sardines, mackerel and anchovies, in addition to vitamin E and green tea extract. Dd won't take it, though. Is this different than cod liver oil? Is CLO better? Does anyone know a really good-tasting vitamin D supplement for kids? Is it okay if taken in a multivitamin? That way she'd get vitamin A, too. What about a really good tasting CLO? Can I mix CLO in something, like chocolate syrup as a pp mentioned? I do give dd 400 IU of a "gummy" vitamin D3 that she likes. I guess I could just give her more? And there's a gummy Omega-3, too. Is that better than nothing, if it's all she'll take? I have lots of questions about this!
As for CLO, I would go with a product from this company Green Pastures, they even have a chocolate cream version. I have no idea what it tastes like, my kids get a squirt of the raw, additive/flavor free CLO every morning.
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by SandyMom View Post
Well we got our labs back for my dd's
8 yr old = 24 (30-80)
12 yr old = 41 (30-80)

How much should I give daily now do you think?
We're in Seattle.
TIA!!!
What did your doctor recommend? 24 is really low. You were hoping for a minimum of 40 and hopefully 50. When I was at 24 (after supplementing with 5,000 IU for two months to get there) my doctor ordered 9,000 IU of D3 per day but I'm an adult. I would assume a child doesn't need as much to correct a deficiency. But you do want that corrected and fast. I wonder if the vitamin D council people could give advice for kids at her level. I'd try that. Supplement heavily (whatever is recommended but I'd assume above 1000 IU per 25 lbs. that she would likely need to maintain her current, too low, levels) and then retest her in a month or so. That way you can adjust dosing up or down. When you get her in the 50 range drop to a maintenance dose for a couple of months. Then test again to make sure she's ok.

The 12 year old isn't too bad. Again, I'm not sure what to recommend but you'd want maintenance and a bit more since you're in Seattle and sun source isn't good much longer if at all there I'd think.

I think you need to talk to someone who knows vitamin D and kids.
Our doctor told me to give my mid-40 level kids 2000 IU per day but they are 5, not 12.
post #18 of 32
Where do y'all live who are supplementing? I'm in the sunny south and my kids are outside a lot so we haven't tested them. I do sometimes give them one of my D supplements and will probably add it to their supplements in the winter, but this time of year they get a lot of sun. I tested low last winter so I've been taking 2000 when I've not been in the sun.
post #19 of 32
I'm in Texas. We've got health stuff going on, so we're doing the supplement first and then test in several months approach. I think I was probably very low, and educated guesswork says my 3yo is probably quite low too.

Here in Texas, right now we're rapidly decreasing the amount of vitamin D we can make. I mean, sure, it's better than, say, Wisconsin, but it's changing fast right now. I love this little calculator...

http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD_quartMED.html

% skin uncovered is a big variable, I sent the kids out in swimsuits a lot more than I otherwise would've this summer.

If you tested low, do you have a guess as to why you were low? I'm white, but my health is, improving, let's say, so I think I was low partly because I used to burn easily in the midday sun and also because of my health. So that's why my younger child, in particular, is likely low.

But I will test us all sometime this fall, this one I feel is important enough that I want to get it right and I don't know of any really good indicators that I can see.
post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by beanma View Post
Where do y'all live who are supplementing? I'm in the sunny south and my kids are outside a lot so we haven't tested them. I do sometimes give them one of my D supplements and will probably add it to their supplements in the winter, but this time of year they get a lot of sun. I tested low last winter so I've been taking 2000 when I've not been in the sun.
We're in Indiana. But I saw a study on those from Hawaii with heavy sun exposure and most were deficient (badly deficient). So it's more than sun. I think it's important enough that it's worth testing--if not now then in the winter.

You likely need way more than 2000 IU to correct a deficiency. Did you re-test to make sure your levels had corrected? I'd do that now.
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