Dh's main objection to not vaxing

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

My dh dosnt protest to much about the kids not being vaxed. He pretty much knows better than argue with me when I set my mind to something

But he raises a pretty valid issue. He says should they want to enter the military especially ds that he is going to be in for a lot of pain because he will need to make up the shots plus all the ones they get in the military.

I hate the thought of that happening since he may get very sick.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[xmasbaby7]

Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X

My dh dosnt protest to much about the kids not being vaxed. He pretty much knows better than argue with me when I set my mind to something

But he raises a pretty valid issue. He says should they want to enter the military especially ds that he is going to be in for a lot of pain because he will need to make up the shots plus all the ones they get in the military.

I hate the thought of that happening since he may get very sick.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Well, an adult who has to catch up on vaccines will have a different list than an infant. Personally, I think an 18 year old should be involved in these decisions, so I would continue to put this off until your teenager is participating in the best plan for himself, fully educated on his risks.

I would start thinking about it on the 16th birthday and investigate what the policy is at that time so that there was time to space things out.

[FernG]

If they join the military, they will get whatever vaccine the military wants to give them. Many ppl end up getting totally revaccinated. "You say that you had the MMR as a kid? I can't find the paperwork. We're giving it to you again today."

How would you know in advance if you LOs want to join the military? And how will you know in advance exactly what vaccines the military requires? Not to mention variations between the branches.

[Fyrestorm]

I believe there are exemptions from the military, they have to be taken at recruitment though.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/1772432/US-Army-r40-562

Scroll down to section 2-6 (page 3) subsection J

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

It looks like different branches have different rules? I couldnt find subsection J

[Fyrestorm]

I think it was down on page 4...

Look right after all the medical exep. stuff, the word religion is italisized on one line and the info is right underneath.

Just checked again...if you count down, start at line 32 on page 4

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

Found it I just told dh there where religious exemptions available but I bet it would be a really challange to use with all the rules involved.

[Fyrestorm]

It would most likely be near impossible...but it is doable!

[alllyssa]

Been there done that

Hi there,

My son very recently joined the Air Force. He started Basic Training last Nov. 4th. They didn't ask him anything about vaccines or for his vaccine records. He was never vaccinated.

While in BT he received the same shots as everyone else. In other words, everyone gets the same shots. They don't look at anyone's shot records and modifications based on your vaccine history.

Luckily, he didn't have any reactions, but a lot of people ended up with colds/flus (and I'm sure the flu shot was one of the ones they received in BT) toward the end of BT and a few guys even had to delay their graduations because they were out of commision for more than a couple of days.

[Crafty]

Luckily, he didn't have any reactions, but a lot of people ended up with colds/flus (and I'm sure the flu shot was one of the ones they received in BT) toward the end of BT and a few guys even had to delay their graduations because they were out of commision for more than a couple of days.

I wouldn't be too quick to blame their illnesses on the vaccines- you get guys coming in from ALL over the US, bringing different germs with them, and they're all working excruciatingly long days, on little sleep, with little food, undergoing all sorts of stress (which does weaken the immune system), and it's inevitable that people are going to start passing those germs back and forth, especially during cold and flu season.

Happened with my ex husband (and he was there in the summer!), his unit passed the same junk back and forth the whole nine weeks. Think of it as a big kindergarten, lol- when you first send your child to school, they often get sick from being around all those other kids, regardless of vax status. It's just the 'whole bunch of people in a group' thing.

[alllyssa]

My point was about the flu vaccine not working very well

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X

My dh dosnt protest to much about the kids not being vaxed. He pretty much knows better than argue with me when I set my mind to something

But he raises a pretty valid issue. He says should they want to enter the military especially ds that he is going to be in for a lot of pain because he will need to make up the shots plus all the ones they get in the military.

I hate the thought of that happening since he may get very sick.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Your son will get ALL the vaccines regardless of past vaccinations received. It's not as if the military asks for vaccine records; they just line you up and inject everyone with the same crap. Sure, people bring their germs from all over, and you are under stress, but the military immediately injects you with immune system depressing crap to make a hospitable environment for those germs!

Also, exemptions are not a realistic option. You would have to be "super special" for the military to accept you with an exemption, and in the unlikely event you get one after entering, your career is essentially over if they don't boot you out first.

[2xy]

Originally Posted by Emmeline II

Your son will get ALL the vaccines regardless of past vaccinations received. It's not as if the military asks for vaccine records; they just line you up and inject everyone with the same crap.

True. I'm former military. I was fully vaccinated as a child, but still had to get the MMR and all that other stuff in boot camp.

Originally Posted by Emmeline II

Also, exemptions are not a realistic option. You would have to be "super special" for the military to accept you with an exemption, and in the unlikely event you get one after entering, your career is essentially over if they don't boot you out first.

Yup. And even if they accepted you, being non-vaccinated will likely limit your ability to undergo deployment, which in turn limits your opportunities for advancement. Needs of the military come before the needs of the individual. Those who don't like it need not apply.

[alllyssa]

I was also hearing that because recruitment is up, the military are definitely being choosier about who they pick. My son told me that while he was helping out a local AF recruiter for a couple of weeks before he "deployed" to England, that they were only accepting recruites who qualified for certain electrical/mechanical fields. Otherwise they had met all of their quotas.

So unless your son scores a 95+ on the ASVAB and has something really special to offer the military, I would guess that they would pass on the hassle of dealing with anyone being dead set against shots.

[claddaghmom]

Hi I know some military guys and they all got jabbed...a lot. And none of them were remotely anti-vaccine.

[RiverSky]

Goodness, what are the odds that your children will go into the military?!?!? I'm hoping the odds that my children do are well, less than 1/100th of a percent (we live in the U.S.).

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

U.S. here as well. Many of his cousins decided on the military so I think that is why he thinks more along those lines. Virtually none of my relatives are in the military can only think of an older great uncle. None of them my age have military carers or even served any time in there.

[2boyzmama]

I just wanted to pipe in with yet a different experience. I was an officer in the Air Force, and I was able to produce my vaccination records and avoid having to have any re-done. I did have to have some new ones (hepatitis A and B) but they didn't make me re-do MMR, and they actually accepted a titer check for CP.

It may have been different because I was an officer, so i didn't ship off to Basic Training. I did ROTC in college, did summer Field Training, commissioned, and it wasn't until I was at my first base that my vaccine status was ever questioned. I got my mom to fax me my records, and that was that.