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Hi everyone! I know this is a silly question but I had to ask as I know I will get some good advice. I am signing my 3 yo ds up for a soccer class. I can't decide which one to do because of all the things going on. There is a time in the evening that my dh could come to and would be fun for all of us to watch him at. The other is a time in the middle of the day and my dh wouldn't be able to come, which is some of the fun as he's really excited.

The problem I am having is where my mind is going with all this. We selectively/delay vax. He has only had his 3 dtap's (started in April), a prevnar and has had 3 polios. I have really hesitated on the HIB (although it still scares me quite a bit for him to be without it but I'm not quite there yet. ) The period after the shot they are supposed to be vulnerable to an invasive HIB infection has scared me off of it, also my oldest dd had a bad reaction to her 4th one. All this to say, I am having a hard time because I think one class is more likely to have kids coming from a day care setting in it and another class would more than likely have stay at home moms/children. My doc is very much on board with me selectively/ delaying but she says if he were in a day care setting (she would very much urge the HIB because of the way they transmit things so easily). She said this about my 4th ds, 10 1/2 months but it goes for all my kids really.

So, I know it's silly but I worry about this, along with the whole swine flu thing. I asked her if day care was just like school (because my 3 yo also has 2 older sibs and all are going to school), she said they don't usually come down with the same illnesses. Some things older kids are more prone to get, some things younger kids. Last year we took a soccer class for him and after 2 weeks he got strep and all my kids were sick when my 4th ds was born. It was a very scary time for us and I hope to never go through that again.

Should I stick with the class that has more siblings likely to be children that are home (although I've seen some pretty sick kids of my mom friends who are sahm's) or just do what would be more fun for us? I told you it was silly. I think my main concern is about HIB. I'm very conflicted about it. although I just did read a study that said HIB protection goes on in breastfed babies up to 10 years later....has anyone read this?
post #2 of 5
FWIW I have an unvaxed child and I wouldn't hesitate to sign her up for daycare, school, or an activity. I believe her immune system will function just fine for most of the vax preventible diseases and the more serious ones are so rare in the US I don't worry about them. Even if I did worry about some of the more serious ones, I don't believe the vaxes offer much protection for things like HIB.

There is a theory called serotype replacement that means other bacteria will takes its place and this is what see have seen with HIB. The HIB bacteria isn't the primary bacterial that causes menigitis anymore. There are many bacterial and viral strains not covered in any vax that can cause it and some of those are more common now.

I haven't seen the study you mention but you should have some protection for your youngest due to the BM and its anti-bacterial properties.
post #3 of 5
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thanks. Good to hear those words. I guess I'm just having flash backs from last year, and it wasn't even a vpd that happened when ds was born. It was just plain scary and I know it started with ds 3 picking it up from this soccer class. Then add the swine flu crap and what the doc said to wrap it all up and I feel paralyzed at times.

I have seen much talk on here about the serotype replacement for sure. I agree that vaxs have totally changed the landscape of what is out there and now with this flu thing they are changing it even more so. But I'm still scared. I don't know why the hib things bothers me so much. Maybe because of those deaths in older children last year...don't know. Because some of them were unvaxed. When I read that the chances of contracting pertusis were much higher if you hadn't been vaccinated then if you had (I gave the article credance because they admited the vaccinated could get it also) and the number was like 1 in 20 or something, that put me over the top to get the vaccine for it. So not doing hib makes me uncomfortable....but when I remember the behavior change my dd went through with hers that was horrible. Luckily she's fine but either way still scares me.
post #4 of 5
I would sign up for the class you want and not worry about it.

My son is unvaxed and in daycare.

here is some studies about HIB/and inefectious disease and breastfeeding

http://www.provita.sk/bf+meningitis-sepsis.htm
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Wow, yes, thanks! Those are the studies I was talking about! The correlation between breastfeeding now and how it protects them down the road is completely fascinating! Wow! that must have been the study I read.

I ended up signing up for the one I wanted. I'm happy and so is ds! thanks mammas!
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