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post #161 of 237
Originally Posted by mtn.mama View Post
if you want sweeter yogurt, i recommend adding fruit or jam or honey as you dish it up for serving.

i just separated a gallon of cream from four gallons of goat milk. now what should i do with it and the reduced fat milk? i'm thinking butter and ricotta...
OK, I need more info
What kind of goats do you have, and how are you separating the cream?
I am very curious, cause we plan to get Nigerian dwarfs next year.
I grew up with goats, but we did not have a mechanical separator, so we bought butter.
post #162 of 237
Originally Posted by tallanvor View Post
Okay, went and did some research on the whole iron/calcium thing and the only thing anyone seemed to agree on was that calcium supplements could inhibit the absorption of iron. Some sites said that too much calcium could cause problems and some sites said that natural sources of both in a regular diet should not cause problems.
Hm, that does make sense. Thanks for all your hard work.
I know that supplements do not work together, even if you are eating an Iron Enriched Cereal (example Total) and eat with milk, the Iron wont absorb properly because of the calcium in milk. So maybe if your iron is from something natural like spinach or molasses, you are okay?

My friends and I have a long thread on this very subject since many of us have been anemic after our pregnancies.

I'll cut and paste for you.........

You know all this Iron stuff really confuses me. I know I am low and I need more iron. Hope I dont just confuse you more.

I posted these for someone on SMO and apparently it was a thread-killer because nothing was posted after it. Oh well, screw them... I know these work now, so ....

Couple tips:
* Vitamin C helps the absorption of iron. Take your supplement with something that has a lot of vitamin C. OJ will work (DO NOT use the OJ with added calcium though!), but I actually take my supplement with a glass of raspberry Emergen-C.

* Calcium INHIBITS the absorption of iron. Don't take your iron supplement with dairy, or any other calcium-laden foods, drinks, or supplements.

* Meat, meat, meat. Animal sources are the best food sources for protein. Organ meats are the best (liver, etc), but I won't eat these, so I just stick to regular steak. Vegetarians can get by with things like kidney beans, dark green leafy vegetables, etc.

* Along with my iron supplement (I take one called Hema-Plex. It seems to work great!), I also take a source of chlorophyll, which can help to build hemoglobin. Alfalfa capsules or chlorophyll concentrate gelcaps.

* Just so you know... you may become constipated from iron supplements. Try to eat a lot of fiber (the alfalfa helps here). Your poop might become a really dark green color, too, and your pee may become bright bright yellow depending on your supplements

ETA: Cooking with cast iron helps, too, but I do not have any, and can't afford any right now. I was still able to raise my levels significantly without it.
I tried to donate blood yesterday and the machine wouldn´t even register my level was so low. It has to be 12.1 to donate and if it is lower than 10.5 the machine can´t pick it up.

So this is my plan. I´m taking a food based iron supplement everyday- Blood Builders. And drinking the following smoothie:

1 Tbspn black strap molassas
2 tspns Floradix + iron ( a chlorophyll supplement)
1/2 C orange juice
1/2 C tiger lily tea*
1/2 banana
1 boiled beet
the juice of one lemon**
ice- as desired

*A friend told me about these. In China they prepare a soup using dried tiger lily for women post-partum. They are supposed to be supper high in iron. I put 8-10/ half cup of boiling water then turn down the heat and let it simmer for 15-20 minutes. I put the flowers and the liquid into the blender.

**The lemon juice is for extra C but mostly to cover the taste of the beet. I despise beets!

My plan is to try it for a month and have my blood drawn to see what´s up. I´ll let you know.

If you eat cereal with 90% Iron, does the MILK you add to that screw up your absorption???

YES!! I'm running into this issue myself. Your option is to eat the cereal dry, or to add an iron supplement. But you're not supposed to take/eat anything with iron in it with dairy.
Iron-Deficiency Anemia

What is iron-deficiency anemia?

The most common cause of anemia is iron deficiency. Iron is needed to form hemoglobin. Iron is mostly stored in the body in the hemoglobin. About 30 percent of iron is also stored as ferritin and hemosiderin in the bone marrow, spleen, and liver.

What causes iron-deficiency anemia?

Iron-deficiency anemia may be caused by the following:

diets low in iron
Iron is obtained from foods in our diet, however, only 1 mg of iron is absorbed for every 10 to 20 mg of iron ingested. A person unable to have a balanced iron-rich diet may suffer from some degree of iron-deficiency anemia.

body changes
An increased iron requirement and increased red blood cell production is required when the body is going through changes such as growth spurts in children and adolescents, or during pregnancy and lactation.

gastrointestinal tract abnormalities
Malabsorption of iron is common after some forms of gastrointestinal surgeries. Most of the iron taken in by foods is absorbed in the upper small intestine. Any abnormalities in the gastrointestinal (GI) tract could alter iron absorption and result in iron-deficiency anemia.

blood loss
Loss of blood can cause a decrease of iron and result in iron-deficiency anemia. Sources of blood loss may include GI bleeding, menstrual bleeding, or injury.
What are the symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia?

The following are the most common symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia. However, each individual may experience symptoms differently. Symptoms may include:

abnormal paleness or lack of color of the skin
lack of energy or tiring easily (fatigue)
increased heart rate (tachycardia)
sore or swollen tongue
enlarged spleen
a desire to eat peculiar substances such as dirt or ice (a condition called pica)
The symptoms of iron-deficiency anemia may resemble other blood conditions or medical problems. Always consult your physician for a diagnosis.

How is iron-deficiency anemia diagnosed?

Iron-deficiency anemia may be suspected from general findings on a complete medical history and physical examination, such as complaints of tiring easily, abnormal paleness or lack of color of the skin, or a fast heartbeat (tachycardia). Iron-deficiency anemia is usually discovered during a medical examination through a blood test that measures the amount of hemoglobin (number of red blood cells) present, and the amount of iron in the blood. In addition to a complete medical history and physical examination, diagnostic procedures for iron-deficiency anemia may include the following:

additional blood tests

bone marrow aspiration and biopsy - marrow may be removed by aspiration or a needle biopsy under local anesthesia. In aspiration biopsy, a fluid specimen is removed from the bone marrow. In a needle biopsy, marrow cells (not fluid) are removed. These methods are often used together.
Treatment for iron-deficiency anemia:

Specific treatment for iron-deficiency anemia will be determined by your physician based on:

your age, overall health, and medical history
extent of the anemia
cause of the anemia
your tolerance for specific medications, procedures, or therapies
expectations for the course of the anemia
your opinion or preference
Treatment may include:

iron-rich diet
Eating a diet with iron-rich foods can help treat iron-deficiency anemia. Good sources of iron include the following:

meats - beef, pork, lamb, liver, and other organ meats
poultry - chicken, duck, turkey, liver (especially dark meat)
fish - shellfish, including clams, mussels, and oysters, sardines, anchovies
leafy greens of the cabbage family, such as broccoli, kale, turnip greens, and collards
legumes, such as lima beans and green peas; dry beans and peas, such as pinto beans, black-eyed peas, and canned baked beans
yeast-leavened whole-wheat bread and rolls
iron-enriched white bread, pasta, rice, and cereals

iron supplements
Iron supplements can be taken over several months to increase iron levels in the blood. Iron supplements can cause irritation of the stomach and discoloration of bowel movements. They should be taken on an empty stomach, or with orange juice, to increase absorption.
How does the body process iron?

Iron is present in many foods and absorbed into the body through the stomach. During this process of absorption, oxygen combines with iron and is transported into the plasma portion of blood by binding to transferri. From there, iron and transferri are used in the production of hemoglobin (the molecule that transports oxygen in the blood), stored in the liver, spleen, and bone marrow, and utilized as needed by all body cells.

The following is a list of foods that are good sources of iron. Always consult your physician regarding the recommended daily iron requirements for your particular situation.

Iron-Rich Foods
Approximate Iron Content (mg)
Oysters 3 ounces 13.2
Beef liver 3 ounces 7.5
Prune juice 1/2 cup 5.2
Clams 2 ounces 4.2
Walnuts 1/2 cup 3.75
Ground beef 3 ounces 3.0
Chickpeas 1/2 cup 3.0
Bran flakes 1/2 cup 2.8
Pork roast 3 ounces 2.7
Cashew nuts 1/2 cup 2.65
Shrimp 3 ounces 2.6
Raisins 1/2 cup 2.55
Sardines 3 ounces 2.5
Spinach 1/2 cup 2.4
Lima beans 1/2 cup 2.3
Kidney beans 1/2 cup 2.2
Turkey, dark meat 3 ounces 2.0
Prunes 1/2 cup 1.9
Roast beef 3 ounces 1.8
Green peas 1/2 cup 1.5
Peanuts 1/2 cup 1.5
Potato 1 1.1
Sweet potato 1/2 cup 1.0
Green beans 1/2 cup 1.0
Egg 1 1.0
post #163 of 237

My head is spinning.

Raven, IDEA, Frontier, Family Partnership, Cyberlynx...

We're back to homeschooling and trying to choose a charter. Anyone care to share their knowledge of strengths and weaknesses?

We were with IDEA for the majority of last year, but I'm a bit annoyed at the lack of response already - messages left and not responded to for days, missing info... plus, I hear Raven offers an additional $600 to put toward internet on top of the allotment, Family Partnership has increased their allotment to $2600 at the youngest level... etc., etc. I know they all have their strengths, weaknesses, and quirks...

Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
post #164 of 237
I have only used Raven and really liked it.

I agree there is a lot to choose from!
post #165 of 237
I totally have no life! LOL
I am here too much.

So my first attempt at Yogurt was a bust when I accidently turned the crock pot to HIGH instead of OFF! It was boiling for nearly an hour before I figured it out.

Second batch is in the works.
post #166 of 237
I've used Cyberlynx, Raven, and now all my school-age kids are in IDEA.

I'll skip Cyberlynx, because we left when the Fbks office had a horrid meltdown. That was years and years ago, so it's probably not relevant.

Raven: Up here, I was dissatisfied with their ability to support the things my kids wanted to do, such as Battle of the Books, chess clubs, etc. There never seemed to be anyone with answers to our questions, and half the questions we DID get answered by our contact teacher turned out to be incorrectly addressed.

IDEA: If they're slow right now, it could be because ILPs are due tomorrow. Every single contact teacher is probably swamped beyond belief right now.

I love our high school CT (contact teacher). She never takes more than two seconds to answer my questions, knows what she's talking about always, and if she has a question, she can contact the person who knows the answer with speed that is amazing. She's done us well, and I am grateful for her.

I like the fact that IDEA has chess club, Lego Robotics club, Close-Up, Academic Decathlon, etc., all set up. I love IDEA's paperwork. It's incredibly simple compared to the paragraphs we had to write for Raven. There aren't fifty meetings every year that are "mandatory" if you want your allotment freed up. I can check my budget online with IDEA's FAST system, and order using that system instead of waiting until we can shell out the $$ for whatever we want to get.

So much depends on your contact teacher. Good luck.

Oh, and IDEA will not take families where one parent or guardian is not a SAHP. They don't like opposite schedules, part time work, etc. So there is that to consider.

love, p
post #167 of 237

I hate this transition time. Its so cold, and its nice and warm.
I prefer it to be one or the other, LOL!

We are scrambling to finish a looooong list of stuff.

DH's parents sent him his birthday card this week. It was so sad. Ever since he can remember, they have made a habit of giving him either $5 or $10 on his birthday. Not at all required, but its something they have always enjoyed doing.
We know that things are very tight for them right now, but had no idea how tight.
They only sent the card this time. No big deal for us at all, but very worriesome for us as well.
We have been blessed with a wee bit of extra this fall, by way of a small flurry of guide trips, so we are going to surprise them, by flying down next month, to help them get ready for winter.
FIL has severe RA, so wood cutting for him is out of the question.
We are praying we can find a source for free firewood, and we will be able to fell and split enough for them to get through the winter, so they will not have the fuel expense.
Oh, and their garden did not do very well this time.

There is an Amish community north of them, with good bent and dents, and I hope I can get up there with MIL, and find some things to help stock up.
post #168 of 237
Originally Posted by akwifeandmomma View Post
Raven, IDEA, Frontier, Family Partnership, Cyberlynx...

Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

I wrote a big thing - where did it go? internet goblins ate it..... Will come back with some thoughts...
post #169 of 237
wow, tough times for so many still.

I know we are just haning on day by day, hoping for one more construction contract before the current one is done.

Well, my yogurt went into containers this morning. It looks like yogurt (but a bit runny) and smells like yogurt. I really dont like plain yogurt so I am reluctant to try it. LOL
Who shall be my guinea pig?

So, at what point would it be okay to drain it on some cheesecloth to try and thicken it up?

And what would you use the liquid for? Making bread perhaps?
post #170 of 237
Originally Posted by roadfamily6now View Post
wow, tough times for so many still.

I know we are just haning on day by day, hoping for one more construction contract before the current one is done.

Well, my yogurt went into containers this morning. It looks like yogurt (but a bit runny) and smells like yogurt. I really dont like plain yogurt so I am reluctant to try it. LOL
Who shall be my guinea pig?

So, at what point would it be okay to drain it on some cheesecloth to try and thicken it up?

And what would you use the liquid for? Making bread perhaps?
Yes, things are very tight to say the least, but God is faithful. We have just what we need, when we need it.
DHs parents are in MI, so its even worse for them.
They sell for Ecoquest, but sales are more then down, because most people cannot afforsd the air purifiers right now.

It will be just a matter of weeks before all our chickens are laying, and we will have at least 2 dozen eggs for sale every day.
I only need to sell 12 dozen to pay for the barley mix we feed them, and then the rest is profit!
Next year, we will have a few goats, and be able to run a small share program as well.

Homemade yogurt is textured different then commercial yogurt.
It will be tangy, but you will like it.
Try mixing in a bit of honey to start out.
Beofre I stopped using sugary stuff, I would put jelly in it.
Now I put things like my lacto fermented wild blueberry sauce in it

You can certainly use the liquid for making bread.
You can strain the yogurt at any time.
If this was yogurt made with raw milk, you can use the whey as a tonic, or for fermenting veges and fruit.
post #171 of 237
good luck with your chickens. How much do you sell a doz eggs for?
Where do you sell them at?

You have some fantstic ideas! thanks
post #172 of 237
Originally Posted by roadfamily6now View Post
good luck with your chickens. How much do you sell a doz eggs for?
Where do you sell them at?

You have some fantstic ideas! thanks
We are just selling them out of the house. $4 a dozen. The standard going rate.
post #173 of 237
hhhmmm, something to think about.

I hope you get lots of eggs and many loyal repeat customers!

So, the kids LIKED the yogurt! I have to admit I still have not tired it.
Yogurt kinda creeps me out. I just recently have been able to eat the store kind.
post #174 of 237
So, I just cut 10" off my hair. Not sure what I think about it yet.

post #175 of 237
Originally Posted by 1stimestar View Post
So, I just cut 10" off my hair. Not sure what I think about it yet.

oh, I like it! It looks much healtheir and darker, I love that color!

Thanks for the before and after pics.
post #176 of 237
wasn't today an amazing day? The weather was perfect. I could have been anywhere in the world today. The temperature was exactly right, not too hot, not to cold. Just a gentle breeze, lots of sunshine.
Simply awesome.
post #177 of 237
Hey, Penelope, we missed your brood at Super Saturday today. It was great - Master Wick came up with a new game that apparently should have had a meeting between the adults before he tried it on the kids...it seemed no one but him understood it! LOL!

45ish here today. We went to Hot Licks (outdoor one) one last time as they close tomorrow. Also hit Gulliver's used book sale!

post #178 of 237
Hi, Jenn,

We skipped Super Saturday because, like many folks, friends of ours are going through pre-winter fixer-upper stress. So the older kids are painting, sheetrocking, etc., in all their hours off. We're also in the middle of high school swim season, and all meets are on Saturdays, so our time is stretched. Plus, B is in MD, so I'm on my own and it jsut stressed me out too much today.

I love Master Wick's games. My kids' favorite game is "shipwreck." Iris is totally loving Tiny (in her language, Teeeeny) Tigers. Rockin' and rollin'!

love, p
post #179 of 237
Hi, ladies! Long time no chat. I kind of... ran away from my internet forums for a while.

We're not in the village anymore. We're in Bethel now. New job (district office), new apartment, new town... we're figuring it out. DH is still a SAHD, for the time being anyway.
post #180 of 237

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