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How Could THIS Happen? How to react?

post #1 of 14
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http://news.aol.com/article/stranger...ld-in%2F653392

This didn't happen in my community, but I am absolutely horrified that this could actually happen ANYWHERE. If you can't get the link to work, a stranger slapped a 2yo baby in Walmart in Georgia, for crying. I have had crying children in the store :, unfortunately, with the number of children I have, it is harder to just walk out. I do try to keep my children from disturbing other shoppers. But, how could anyone justify hitting a crying baby? Much less someone else's or a stranger's child?

The article doesn't say how the mother reacted to this, besides calling the police, but how would a mother react to that? Take the nearest large object off the shelf and clock the man with it? How often do you think this actually happens? I would think that I would rush away from a man that threatened to harm my crying child. How did he get back the the child do you think? Or maybe she didn't think he actually meant it.

This is bizarre. Has anyone else dealt with crazy strangers? How do you handle it?

I had one incident where we were waiting as a walk in to the dentist. My son REALLY needed to be seen. This lady started reading a book to my children. My 5mo old son was upset all of a sudden and banged his head on the floor, out of anger. I calmed him down. I was talking to a lady born in our town, and we were talking about the politics of our town that I was unaware of when we bought there.

This lady all of sudden got up, and at the top of her voice says, "I cannot continue listening to this as I am a Christian woman." Gets right in front of me with her finger at my face and says, "You are the worst example of a homeschooling mother I have ever seen." Part of this was based on the lady telling my 7yo DD to read a book, and she said she couldn't (which really she is dyslexic), so the lady read it to her, and cont reading to the girls loudly. The girls never asked her to do this, but they do love having books read to them.

I was appalled. What did I do or say? We were talking about how prejudice the town still was, and I was UNAWARE of this when we bought our house there. This lady doesn't live in our town, nor were we actually in it. I ask, "What just happened?" And, the friend of this lady says, "If you would just LISTEN for a minute instead of interrupting, I will tell you what she said." all snarky. I don't remember really what it still was about.

So, I get upset and nurse the baby in the hot van. My son had to sit there for his turn, which we didn't get in that day. And, the lady even said to him (he was 9yo), "What? Did I do something to you?" Because he appeared to be "glaring" at her. I came in and apologized to her that I was sorry for offending her, for whatever it was that I did. (still wasn't sure) And, she goes on about how my girls' hair was messy, and I should be reading to the children all day (my girls NEVER asked her to do this), and I needed to get my act together. I told her it must be my off day and we aren't usually that way. I took the girls in and brushed their hair (again since we don't have A/C), and we didn't get seen that day. I apologized to the receptionist the next day. She said that the lady was out of line, as they have seen us many times, and she must have been off her meds, because she threatened a nurse in the back later on after we left. This was all done in a VERY small waiting room, where I have spent HOURS waiting to be seen. Fortunately, we haven't been there in a long time.

This same lady, several years later, opened a hardware store in our nearest town. I bought a toilet seat, and recognized her, but I don't think she recognized me. When I figured out who she was after getting in the van, I knew we would NEVER be buying there again.

So, how does one handle strangers that REALLY step over the line? Kymberli
post #2 of 14
As distressing as these situations are (both the stranger slapping a baby in Walmart and the mentally ill woman you encountered at the dentist's office), they can be seen as opportunities for modeling safety to our children.

Nothing like that has happened to me and my children so far, but if it did, my priority would be getting my child to safety. I would tell the stranger to stop talking to me/my child (or simply say very firmly, with a bit of a glare, 'excuse me') pick up my child if young enough and carry them away, or place my hand on them and lead them away if too big to be carried. There would be no further conversation with the line-crossing stranger, no explanation/defense for why my child has gum in their hair, is crying, is wearing a green shirt, or whatever the stranger is saying about them. Explanations only serve to justify the stranger's comments in their mind (and possibly my child's mind). Once I was in a safe place I would talk to my child about how inappropriate the stranger was and what they could do if something like that happened when I wasn't there to help. I'd give them words to say and point out all the people that could help (security guards, the receptionist, store manager). I'm using the word 'stranger', but I'd do the same with an acquaintance or even a family member if their behavior was abusive and dangerous.

So sorry you had that difficult situation in the waiting room. Hopefully your kids recognized she was a person with significant issues and didn't take her comments seriously.
post #3 of 14
I try, : "We're fine." "She's fine." "He's fine."

I don't respond to the accusation. It's honestly none of a stranger's business.
post #4 of 14
If a starnger slapped my two year old (or any age kid) I'd punch them in the face. Sorry not the typical peace loving MDC answer but that's my gut reaction. I don't hit my kid why on Earth would a stranger. I am aware that this wouldn't set a good example for my kid but I think my mama bear would take over and my reaction would be instinctual.

Now a non violent attempt to tell me how to parent or discipline my kids just happened to me at the pool a few days ago I simply said "Thank you for your unsolicited parenting advice" and moved on.
post #5 of 14
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If a starnger slapped my two year old (or any age kid) I'd punch them in the face.
Yep. I think I would too. I wouldn't WANT to, since I know it's not an appropriate thing to do and it's not going to really help, but I really don't think mama bear would be willing to let that one slide.
post #6 of 14
once when mom had DD1 while I was doing something else, some creepy old man (her words) was trying to touch DD1. She told him that if he touched the baby he would lose his hand. I can't imagine her reaction if someone slapped one of my kids. Papa bear wouldn't have given that person time to regret the day they were born. Definitely not GD, but you slap or hurt my children, the gloves are off.
post #7 of 14
When there is someone interacting with my children in an inappropriate way, I move my body between them and the offending person.

No way would someone get close enough to strike my child.
post #8 of 14
Can't hold back the violence here for me. If someone, ANYONE, laid a finger on my child, they better expect to get hit back. And I do mean it would not be pretty. Matter of fact, that old man might have gotten smacked the minutes he started THREATENING my baby with violence. Seriously? Is that what our would is coming too?
post #9 of 14
I would have completely flipped out if someone hit my child, whether I wanted to model gentle behavior or not. Security would have been called. I have no doubt.
post #10 of 14
That's appalling! I have no idea how I would react. I don't think I would let an angry stranger get that close to my DD. And I'm usually with DH so I would let him deal with it.
post #11 of 14
This is a very upsetting story! I suspect there is some mental illness at issue with the creepy old guy who slapped the child (how could there not be?). Though NOTHING here is the mother's fault (and I hope the man is prosecuted fully), thinking about the situation has made me think about things I can do to prevent something like this happening to us.

He threatened the child first (told the mom if she didn't "shut the child up" he would). I would like to think that I would have called police and store security at that point, before the actual violence. I can understand why the mom did not, though-- it is so tempting to just brush off weird/unacceptable behavior.

Another aspect-- the child was sitting in the cart, right? and the mom was obviously far enough away that the man had access? It's a great reminder to stay very near your child at all times.

If it did happen, though,I would be SO SO angry I can't even imagine what I would do.
post #12 of 14
I don't think I would even have taken the threat seriously. The guy's supposed to have threatened them first ... before this story proved how wrong I was, I think I would have thought, "Yeah, okay weirdo, whatever" and gone on with my shopping trying to get out of his area as quick as possible. I mean, wouldn't your first thought be "Who would hit someone else's baby for crying?"
I don't care to think about what would happen next though, my guess is it would be loud and messy and probably he wouldn't have been the only one talking to the cops!

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Another aspect-- the child was sitting in the cart, right? and the mom was obviously far enough away that the man had access? It's a great reminder to stay very near your child at all times.
Good point - I had DD in the cart a few weeks ago in the store and turned away "just for a second" to get something off the shelf...some woman stopped to say hi to her and touched her face (gently, just stroking her cheek) and left behind remnants of whatever she'd just been eating! Not as bad as assault, but Ewwww. Makes me want to keep her in the sling, even when my back starts to hurt!
post #13 of 14
Wow. This is very intense. I think I would have threatened the man back, the FIRST time he threatened my child. He used very very strong words.
We need to listen to the things people say, and believe that they would follow through with it if they would say it.

It isn't normal to say or do something like that, so this man was obviously OFF HIS MEDS.

The baby will have to have therapy to overcome fear of others I bet. Maybe not today, but soon it will come rolling out of her like a volcano. It is a serious violation.

Recently a man at the Y where we swim, approached two of my kids and asked them many questions like, "Where do you live, where do you go to church, do you believe in Jesus, are you going to heaven?" and much more.

My kids told me about it after I asked if anyone knew anything about him (intuition that he would be a problem because he walks around the pool shouting "Jesus made this possible" ect. I was shocked that he had approached my children, and even more shocked that my kids didn't come and tell me. He and his wife actually read the bible to my children. HELLO! They have a mother. Everyone that wants to save people automatically assumes that they have the right to "save" my children. I had so many emotional reactions to him approachming my kids. First, I was right there in the pool, near the side. He could have approached me and asked if it was okay to talk to my children about Jesus. (I would have def said NO). Secondly, he used tactics to lure my children. I was so angry that night, for the fact that he could have just lured my children out of the pool area and into his car for example (if he had wanted to). I take an aquatics class, and he did all of this while I was in my class.

I told my kids to sit on the opposite side of the pool from where he sits, and approached my aquatics instructor to see what I could do. Thinking she was a Christian, (it was the Y after all) I treaded very carefully, because I wanted to stop this man, not hurt anyone's feelings. She was very upset about it and we talked to the manager of the Y together. He did approach the couple. The next time the man came, he spoke to my son anyway. So he didn't like that I had done that, and he was agrivated enough to shout out my son's name across the pool, to get his attention.

People who push the boundaries of other people, are just crazy. We wouldn't do that with each other. Most of us wouldn't approach someones children without the mom knowing, and tell them about Jesus, give them food or anything. We have to teach our children to stay away from strangers (or family members who are not safe) and as parents, we need to distance ourselves IMMEDIATELY from people who threaten us or our children.
post #14 of 14
The more I go through this life of mine, it never ceases to amaze me how whacky people are.

I didn't read the article, but from other posters I suspect what happened was a stranger slapped a kid in a store for being loud and crying? Ummmm, from where I'm at, that is assault and battery!!! If a stranger slapped an adult, it would be assault and battery, so why would it be any different with a kid?

I am actually kind of chuckling here to myself over the 2 posts about the Christian woman and "Jesus made this all possible!!" Is it only me, or does anyone else find that these radical Christian people are a bit off the wall? I am surprised that the pool allowed the Jesus guy to come back----his behavior is obviously affecting the other people who go to the pool, not to mention "preying" on kids. When a grown adult starts talking to a child without a parent there, antennae should go up about the real intention of that adult---for Jesus man to be yelling your son's name across the pool is a bit strange to me. I think that the manager of that pool should have told him that if his behavior doesn't change, that he can't come back. I mean, that is just messed up!! I would have told the guy to stay away from my kids, quit yelling their names or I was going to call the police for harrassment. Because, after a while, that is what it is!!

This is not quite the same thing, but............I was in Las Vegas a couple years ago, playing blackjack at a full table. There was a woman in the last seat----and I was doing EVERYTHING you're not supposed to do in blackjack (like hitting on an 18, holding on 12, etc.) and I was winning hand after hand, and all of a sudden this woman shouts out "You b**ch!! You are f***ing up the whole flow of this table!! If you can't f***ing play the game right, don't play at all!!" She caught the whole table off guard, and when she was done her tirade, everybody was laughing at her!! I mean---she went OFF on me!! So, the dealer told her to leave. LOL

People are crazy, I am really convinced of this.
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