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post #1 of 11
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My son (2 years, turning 3 in Nov.) is having horrible tantrums. I mean really horrible screaming fits, many times a day. I love my little guy so much, he can be so wonderful and curious and sweet but lately I don't want to be around him and honestly, I regret choosing to stay at home with him. I also have a seven month old son and I'm finding it so hard to be alone with both of them because the 2 year old is so difficult. Ds1 won't let me get him dressed in the morning, I try to make a game of it, I try to distract him, nothing seems to work. I tell him he has been sitting in the same diaper since last night and it will give him a boo-boo if we don't change it. He screams no, I don't want to, and the worst part is he kicks and hits me very hard if I try to come near him. We can never get anywhere on time. One day he wanted ice-cream for breakfast and I told him we didn't have any and how about these nice eggs for breakfast because they are better for your body. He started slapping and kicking me and screaming so hard I thought he was going to vomit. It lasted for 30 min. As soon as it was over he goes back to being his sweet self. He has always thrown little fits now and then, more so when he is tired or hungry but in the last month or so they have become more frequent, lasting longer, and more intense.

I tried over and over again today to get him to take a nap. I would read him stories, tuck him in, play music for him, sing to him, plead with him, and he kept on getting out of his bed and saying he didn't want to rest. I kept on insisting and at one point I noticed he had a messy diaper, he threw a tantrum when I suggested we change it. I leaned over to try and talk to him and he kicked me in the face, hard. I finally managed to change his diaper and at this point his screaming woke the baby up and now I have two tired children. My dh was home at this point and we take the kids for a car ride to see if they will take a late nap. Everyone is happy for a few minutes until our son starts saying he wants to go visit a relative. We tell him we are going to visit them on Sunday and that sparks another horrible screaming and crying rage, except now we are all stuck in the car together and the baby starts crying as well. I fantasize about running away. I am so very tired and at a loss. I would love some advice. Thanks for reading.
post #2 of 11
Have a just-turned-3-year-old here. We've had our share of these same crazy reactions too. . . I wish I had more helpful advice, but it has been so hard to come up with much that helps us either.

The best I've gotten with my dd is that she'll sometimes respond or talk about her problems with a puppet or stuffed animal. The other day, she was incredibly distracted by dh when we suggested how about we take her temperature and check out if she was sick. And sometimes dh (who can handle this much better than I) will say "oh, I don't care if you scream, go ahead and do it as much as you want and then when you calm down we will . . . [whatever we're trying to get done]". That said, nothing here works really consistently so I was going to tag along and see what others say.
to you mama.
post #3 of 11
The level of violence is concerning. How do you currently deal with that aspect?
post #4 of 11
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When he hits or kicks we say things like, "don't hit" "stop, that hurts" and after I lose my patience "get away from me, why do do this? you are being mean" I leave the room and try not to cry.
The violence bothers me the most as well. We never hit or threaten to hit so I really don't know where he gets the aggressive behavior. I feel like such failure.
post #5 of 11
Is he getting enough rest? My dd acted like that a lot as a toddler, and she never, ever got enough rest. Going back, I would make that my #1 goal: finding a way to get her more sleep each day (she stopped napping at 20 mo....way too early).

My first idea would be loading him up in a stroller (baby in a sling/wrap), and taking a walk to a park or something before nap time. Let him run around and wear out, and pray he falls asleep on the way back.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by mumkimum View Post
The best I've gotten with my dd is that she'll sometimes respond or talk about her problems with a puppet or stuffed animal.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can get our DS, who just turned 3, to agree to almost anything if one of his "friends" suggests it (we have some hand puppets that work great for this...).

Your child's behaviour sounds a lot like DS' behaviour was a short while ago, right down to the hitting and punching. That phase didn't last too long - a few weeks, perhaps a couple of months (although it feels like it lasted forever!!). For the violence, I would move away from him and ignore him until he calmed down - I wouldn't speak to him or acknowledge him until he was calmer. Sometimes he'd have to cry for an hour, but any attempt to go near him would result in me being punched. And then that behaviour stopped... Now he hides when he doesn't want to do something, for example, getting dressed in the morning - whereas he would start a tantrum a few months ago, now he just shouts "no, I don't want to" and runs to hide in a closet or under his blanket. I just wait him out...

This age can be very volatile - everything is a potential tantrum-inducer, and you probably feel like you're walking on eggshells. I hope things get better soon...
post #7 of 11
UGH. I have no good advice.. just want to let you know-this isn't abnormal. He's at the age where he gets frustrated, and hasn't learned how to properly show it. Some three year olds do this. Don't feel like he's the only one, mama.
When my three year old throws violent tantrums I put a baby gate in his room and sit him in there until he calms down. I tell him WHY I'm doing it.. and sit him down. THEN we he's calm I go back and talk with him. That way he doesn't hurt anyone. It gives him some quiet time in his own space.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by jenniet View Post
When he hits or kicks we say things like, "don't hit" "stop, that hurts" and after I lose my patience "get away from me, why do do this? you are being mean" I leave the room and try not to cry.
The violence bothers me the most as well. We never hit or threaten to hit so I really don't know where he gets the aggressive behavior. I feel like such failure.
Sorry didn't see this one...
So many people assume that children who have violent outbursts are victims of abuse, or spanking, etc.. There is no basis in that. Like I said.. it's because he's frustrated.. hitting is one of his first instincts.. He doesn't know how to explain he's frustrated, and he might not even know WHY he's frustrated. Don't get down on yourself. This too, shall pass.
post #9 of 11
Maybe it's time to stop "negotiating" with him. Instead of trying to "negotiate" having eggs for breakfast instead of ice cream, how about just "No. We don't eat ice cream for breakfast. This morning we will be having eggs for breakfast." And when you were in the car and he wanted to go visit a relative, again the answer should be "No. We are not going to visit _______ today. We are just taking a ride in the car today." YOU are the one who should be making decisions here, and setting limits and boundaries. He hits you because HE CAN, and he is getting a reaction from you when he does. I think when the tantrums elicit reactions from parents, the tantrums continue and get worse.

He needs to know that VIOLENCE will not get him what he wants, either. When he kicks, punches, slaps---put him in his room with a gate and let him be by himself to calm down. Make it CRYSTAL CLEAR that you will not tolerate being hit and kicked, and when he does that he will be spending some time alone because you don't want to be around him when he is like that. When he was going crazy when he couldn't have ice cream for breakfast, as soon as he starts in with the physical stuff he should be brought to his room with the gate put up, and he can tantrum by himself. When he begins to realize that his behavior will not get him what he wants and will not eilicit any response/reaction from you, chances are it will stop. You don't hit your children, so why would you tolerate being hit by them? You need to make it clear that you will not tolerate being hit from him, FOR ANY REASON.

If he won't let you dress him in the morning, then leave him in his pajamas. I wouldn't get into a screaming fight about it. If you have someplace to go, then you can try to get him dressed-----but, if it is going to cause you to be late or give you a headache, then just leave him. And if anybody says anything, tell them the truth. He didn't want to get dressed, and you didn't have the time or the inclination to fight him about it. And, if it is someplace that he goes---like a playdate or school or something---then explain to him that you're not leaving until he gets dressed. Period, end of story.

Lots of people will disagree with me on this.........but, when kids don't get the reaction that they want from a certain behavior, that behavior stops. When they learn that throwing a fit only lands them in a room by themselves, it will stop. And, instead of "negotiating", you as his mother must be firm and make the decisions---there is no "negotiating"!! No matter how much he cries and screams, you're not going to visit the relative. (At that point, to be quite honest, I would have gone home and put him in his room and put the gate up and let him freak out by himself.) You can explain to him that if he acts violently, you are not going to respond to him and he will need to calm down and stop hitting if he wants to talk to you. I think you need to let him know that poor behavior does not get rewarded. Ignore it when it happens.

Instead of trying to get him to go to sleep for his nap, perhaps you can just put him down and have him rest quietly for a while. Take away all stimulation and tell him that he has to stay in his room/bed for X amount of time----and he doesn't have to sleep, but he has to stay quiet in there. Your "inisistance" and "pleading" is letting him know that he's got the upper hand, and he knows it!! Sometimes with children, no amount of pleading and insisting will get the job done----it has to be "It is time for your nap. If you don't want to go to sleep, then you don't have to. But you MUST stay in your bed/room for X amount of time and stay in there quietly." Any cries/screams, hitting/kicking must be met with an actual physical blockade between you and him, and no further wrestling between you and him. Show no reaction----most of the time, his behavior is the catalyst for you to become upset and you are going crazy trying to get him to stop. Instead of having him create a "chemical reaction" in you, take him by the hand or pick him up and put him in his room BY HIMSELF---no pleading or explaining or anything, except that he is being put in his room beause of his behavior. He will learn in a very short amount of time that when he acts like that it is going to be met with being put in "solitude" and he can think about why he is there by himself----and you can explain to him that if he is going to hit, then he can't be around anyone else, because he is hurting them, and you aren't going to tolerate being hurt by him.

He may be frustrated, but hitting, kicking, crying and screaming is not going to get him what he wants, and he needs to know this. You have another child that needs your care and attention too, so you need to maintain your sanity for that!! Instead of getting to the point where you say "get away from me", get him away and alone first so you don't get to that point. Screaming won't hurt him!! But it certainly hurts your ears and your baby's ears!! When he yells, don't answer and just ignore him---tell him that you will not answer to his yells and screams, and when he can speak in a normal tone of voice you will respond.

As far as the diaper goes, maybe it's time to try and start potty training him? Or, if he kicks and hits when you are trying to change the diaper, leave it for a little while and come back to it later.

There is no sense in getting beat up and being at your wit's end.........let him work out his own tantrums without beating you up. You have enough to do, without getting a black eye from being kicked by your 3-year old.

Just my opinion.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Asparagus78 View Post
This age can be very volatile - everything is a potential tantrum-inducer, and you probably feel like you're walking on eggshells. I hope things get better soon...
YES!!! Definitely feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Luckily Dh is extremely patient and started taking our ds on special little outings. This morning they went out to breakfast and got haircuts together. The extra attention seems to be helping and it gives me a little break.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to respond. I read everyone's comments twice and I will try all the suggestions. Yesterday was a better day, only one tantrum. Thanks so much. I always learn so much from the mamas on this board.
post #11 of 11


I am right there with you! My YDS just turned two and it was like he flipped a switch overnight. One day he was a nice, happy boy. The next day he was psycho. Reading this thread has given me a lot to think about. We've been ignoring the tantrums (so hard to do!) and walking away from him when he tries to get violent (want to lock myself in the bathroom and cry), but it's still SO hard to deal with.

So no advice, just lots of commiseration. My ODS was the same way. He didn't calm down until he was 4. I'm praying I can get control of YDS quicker.
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