Military and mandatory flu shot

[Jen78fl]

Hi all. Well I know that there are a ton of posts about the swine flu vaccine, but I have one question in particular that Im not sure if anyone has asked.. My husband is in the military and I am trying to find out if he will be required/forced to receive this vaccine. I am really worried for his health. He is not really willing to try and get a religious waiver. I think he would just get the vaccine, despite all of the side effects he could have. I have told him that I think its dangerous (and showed him articles) and that he would regret getting it, but I dont know if Im getting through.. So , what I really need to know is if it will be mandatory for him. I appreciate any advice on this!

Jennifer

[liberal_chick]

I don't know about the situation as it will apply to the swine flu vax specifically, but I do know that my dh was able to decline the regular flu shot without a problem. He's in the Army.

[Jen78fl]

Originally Posted by liberal_chick

I don't know about the situation as it will apply to the swine flu vax specifically, but I do know that my dh was able to decline the regular flu shot without a problem. He's in the Army.

Thats interesting, my husband (coast guard) made it sound like he has always been required to get the flu shot...

[Rylins mama]

Jen.. My hubby is CG too and I dont think hes ever asked to get out of it. With the swine flu one I will make sure that he does everything to try to get out of it though. He thinks its as ridiculous as I do so hopefully he will put up a fight on it.

[Jen78fl]

I hope my husband will put up a fight also. I told him that he needs to ask for the flumist and if they dont have that, then to at least ask to see the ingredients of the vaccine he is suppose to be getting. If it doesnt contain mf59 (squalene) then I suppose it would be ok to get, but I told him if it has that, he should explain to his command or whoever is giving the vaccines all the side effects of squalene and that it has not been proven safe for use in the US... If he will do all this though, I have no idea, and that is why Im worried for him.. Hes never been one to stand up to authority and will always do what is asked of him for the most part

[Pirogi]

Originally Posted by liberal_chick

I don't know about the situation as it will apply to the swine flu vax specifically, but I do know that my dh was able to decline the regular flu shot without a problem. He's in the Army.

I've pm'd you!

[Jen78fl]

Military and mandatory flu shot

Just read this

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/con...9military.html

It mentions that the H1N1 shot will be mandatory for military but only mentions the DOD.. Would this apply to the Dept of Homeland Security also? My husband is in the coast guard which is the Dept of Homeland Security... I am pretty sure he will be required to get this but just wondering if anyone has any more info.. Thanks

Jennifer

[nia82]

That is really bad news, but to be expected. DH will have to relocate for 28 days after this shot and cannot come home, I will not allow him here close to me or our son. It is too dangerous. I also worry greatly about his health, he might die, it is a great risk to take the shot.
We updated the will and life insurance already. We can only pray now, it is horrible. I already told DH it is his fault that he wanted to do the horrible armed forces thing and might leave his son a half-orphan with the risks involved (I never was convinced by this job, for God's sake, he has an Ivy League degree and could do anything!). I'm really mad about the military. Makes me so sick what they do to people.

[Spirit Dancer]

Nia82, why would you make your dh stay away for 28 days if he gets the vax? That is an awful long time- seems very extreme to me. Will you not go anywhere all fall/winter in case your son is exposed to another person who has gotten the vax? You cannot know if you go to the park/ store who has had it. I agree being injected with the vax is dangerous but not so much second hand exposure. The chance you could catch something through your dh from the shot is so minimal it does not seem the effort to worry over. Maybe I am wrong on this?

[zinemama]

Originally Posted by nia82

DH will have to relocate for 28 days after this shot and cannot come home, I will not allow him here close to me or our son. It is too dangerous. I also worry greatly about his health, he might die, it is a great risk to take the shot. We updated the will and life insurance already. We can only pray now, it is horrible.

Do you have some links with evidence to support the actions you are taking? Particularly having someone who's been vaccinated stay apart from his family for 28 days (why 28?)

[Jen78fl]

Originally Posted by nia82

That is really bad news, but to be expected. DH will have to relocate for 28 days after this shot and cannot come home, I will not allow him here close to me or our son. It is too dangerous. I also worry greatly about his health, he might die, it is a great risk to take the shot.
We updated the will and life insurance already. We can only pray now, it is horrible. I already told DH it is his fault that he wanted to do the horrible armed forces thing and might leave his son a half-orphan with the risks involved (I never was convinced by this job, for God's sake, he has an Ivy League degree and could do anything!). I'm really mad about the military. Makes me so sick what they do to people.

I have been wondering about this also.. I keep hearing that the injections might contain live flu viruses.. but maybe that info is wrong?? I really hope so.. I agree with you that it is very risky to get the shot. I told my husband to just not go to the clinic to get it and just hope that maybe they wont notice?? Probably not the best strategy.. The other thing I was thinking was for him to tell them he had a reaction to the flu shot last year... Not sure if hell do it or not... I just hope he will try his best to avoid it somehow. I can understand the military requiring vaccines but I dont think they should require EXPERIMENTAL vaccines. Thats just not right.

[Jen78fl]

I am kind of concerned about the live viruses and it being transmitted to my kids also..


http://www.infowars.com/swine-flu-va...ve-h1n1-virus/

[amnesiac]

Merging these threads.

[covertlycrunchy]

Forcing kids to get the Swine Flu vax in a DoD daycare

I don't know if anybody else is having this problem too, I've been calling around to some of the other military bases and mine seems to be the only one mandating this vaccine for all the children at the base day care. The middle/high schools aren't mandating this, just the day care.
They are giving parents 2 weeks to get the shot or they will kick the kids out. Anybody know a way around this? I'm speaking not just for me but for a whole bunch of people who vaccinate regularly but don't want this one.
Also worth noting is that I've tried to get a religious exemption for my child but basically got stonewalled for over a year and they wouldn't let my second child into day care with her sister because she wasn't vaccinated and the exemption hadn't gone through yet. I had to go to part time to cover child care and getting day care on the economy is ridiculously expensive. As in I don't think we could afford food expensive.
Any suggestions?

[writteninkursive]

Well, it's probably only being targeted toward daycare because they can. It's illegal to keep a kid out of school who has an exemption for not being vaxxed, but does daycare constitute "school"?
I'm not (anymore) a military wife and never lived on a base, but I would take it up with whoever runs the daycare. Find out who specifically is in charge of daycare admissions and tell them (true or not) that your family has a history of reactions to vaccines and that your child can not have this vaccine. See what happens. Worst comes to worst, you can fight it in court if you thought it was worth it.

[NamastePlatypus]

here my friend dropped off her dd late ( she is a full vaxer) and they had them all lined up in the hall. SHe pulled her dd that moment. Now you HAVE to have it to attend, even drop off care.

[amnesiac]

Since we are not currently accepting any new H1N1 threads, I am merging these two.

[nia82]

Af is the only branch that mandates it for daycare... I would keep arguing. Do you have an exemption for the other shots? Then they cannot make you.
If you however do not claim a religious exemption and won't in the future since you delay or selective vax, you cannot decline the shot if you want your child to attend DoD facilities.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by covertlycrunchy

I don't know if anybody else is having this problem too, I've been calling around to some of the other military bases and mine seems to be the only one mandating this vaccine for all the children at the base day care. The middle/high schools aren't mandating this, just the day care.
Any suggestions?

The only thing I can think of is for each parent to file an IG complaint. IG complaints are a big deal and if half a dozen parents file one for the same issue, it should get some attention.

[2boyzmama]

They are requiring both flu shots at the CDC at WPAFB. (well, have required them, it's past the cutoff date for receiving them)

AND...I just was told of a situation that would PI$$ me off...a child had an exemption from the flu shot because of an egg allergy. The CDC MADE her active duty father take her to the base clinic for skin tests to "prove" her allergy, despite the fact that it was in her medical records (medical records from a military health clinic nonetheless). I don't know what the outcome was (whether she showed as allergic or not) but it would royally tick me off!