The Cod Liver Oil Thread - Page 4

[linguistmama]

There are 118 doses in each bottle so that's a 4 month supply for me. It works out cheaper than the other brands I could get locally like Carlson's.

[Juvysen]

We have 4 people in my family... 118 doses doesn't go so far when there's 4 of us... granted two are taking less than a full dose... I expect it'd be about a bottle every month or month and a quarter.

[Metasequoia]

We have four people too, and we all take 2.5 ml. But if it keeps us healthy, it's worth it!

[Quaniliaz]

Ok - so some adults are just taking 2.5 ml?

The WAPF rec. are that I take 10 ml as a nursing mom. That means for our family of four - a bottle would last less than two weeks. YIKES! Frankly - I can't afford that at all. I actually don't really have a budget for less than that, but we'll see what we can do.

I think I'll drop down to 2.5ml - and it probably won't be so awful.

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by Quaniliaz

Ok - so some adults are just taking 2.5 ml?

The WAPF rec. are that I take 10 ml as a nursing mom. That means for our family of four - a bottle would last less than two weeks. YIKES! Frankly - I can't afford that at all. I actually don't really have a budget for less than that, but we'll see what we can do.

I think I'll drop down to 2.5ml - and it probably won't be so awful.

Of fermented CLO??? That's *a lot*!

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by Quaniliaz

Ok - so some adults are just taking 2.5 ml?

The WAPF rec. are that I take 10 ml as a nursing mom. That means for our family of four - a bottle would last less than two weeks. YIKES! Frankly - I can't afford that at all. I actually don't really have a budget for less than that, but we'll see what we can do.

I think I'll drop down to 2.5ml - and it probably won't be so awful.

WAPF says:

Based on these values, the dosage for the high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil is provided as follows:

* Children age 3 months to 12 years: 1/2 teaspoon or 2.5 mL, providing 4650 IU vitamin A and 975 IU vitamin D.
* Children over 12 years and adults: 1 teaspoon or 10 capsules, providing 9500 IU vitamin A and 1950 IU vitamin D.
* Pregnant and nursing women: 2 teaspoon or 20 capsules, providing 19,000 IU vitamin A and 3900 IU vitamin D.

Please note that the fermented cod liver oil contains many co-factors that may enhance the body's uptake and usage of vitamins A and D; in fact, many have reported results equivalent to those obtained from high-vitamin cod liver oil with half the recommended dose, that is ¼ teaspoon or 1.25 mL for children age 3 months to 12 years; ½ teaspoon or 5 capsules for children over 12 years and adults; and 1 teaspoon or 10 capsules for pregnant and nursing women.

So above they recommend 10 ml for lactating women, but suggest that half that dose might work. How old is your nursling? Mine is 3.5 y.o. & I just take the adult half dose of 2.5 ml & it seems fine for me. I could try to go up to 5 ml, but that seems like a lot.

[Quaniliaz]

I was just going to post that. I will cut it in half for all sorts of reasons. Cost and yuck factor being top of my list. My little one just turned one - so still nursing a ton.

Thanks for mentioning your dosage!

[pampered_mom]

Originally Posted by Metasequoia

So above they recommend 10 ml for lactating women, but suggest that half that dose might work. How old is your nursling? Mine is 3.5 y.o. & I just take the adult half dose of 2.5 ml & it seems fine for me. I could try to go up to 5 ml, but that seems like a lot.

10ml for nursing women...and higher for the FCLO/BO combo which we prefer b/c I had always understood that was WAP's practice...especially important I'd think for the Vit K2. For the FCLO/BO combo you'd need somewhere near 1T.

[linguistmama]

I've been taking the 2.5 ml dosage and have felt great. I'm glad I don't seem to need to up it since it's cheaper this way.

[Quaniliaz]

Originally Posted by pampered_mom

10ml for nursing women...and higher for the FCLO/BO combo which we prefer b/c I had always understood that was WAP's practice...especially important I'd think for the Vit K2. For the FCLO/BO combo you'd need somewhere near 1T.

Oh pampered_mom, you are *breaking* my heart. I have the FCLO/BO combo. HOW can I afford that much a day & how can I get it down the hatch?!

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by pampered_mom

10ml for nursing women...and higher for the FCLO/BO combo which we prefer b/c I had always understood that was WAP's practice...especially important I'd think for the Vit K2. For the FCLO/BO combo you'd need somewhere near 1T.

Originally Posted by Quaniliaz

Oh pampered_mom, you are *breaking* my heart. I have the FCLO/BO combo. HOW can I afford that much a day & how can I get it down the hatch?!

We don't take the FCLO/BO combo but we take a K2 supplement with our FCLO & we eat a lot of raw butter.

[RufusBeans]

I read the entire thread

So those of you who tried the gel's which do you think is better the fruit or the chocolate?

[pampered_mom]

Originally Posted by Metasequoia

We don't take the FCLO/BO combo but we take a K2 supplement with our FCLO & we eat a lot of raw butter.

Raw butter and grassfed butter are pretty much out of the question for us - given the amounts we would have to eat I'd rather go with the FCLO/BO combo. I just wish it had the same vitamin levels.

Quaniliaz - I say you take what you can...some is better than none at all!

[sprouthead]

Originally Posted by pampered_mom

10ml for nursing women...and higher for the FCLO/BO combo which we prefer b/c I had always understood that was WAP's practice...especially important I'd think for the Vit K2. For the FCLO/BO combo you'd need somewhere near 1T.

can you tell me where, or how you got that info? because according to my math, a 1/2 tsp of the fclo/bo combo would provide 3000 ius of A and 750 ius of D, so around 3 tsp would provide 18000 ius of A and 4500 ius of D, which is close to the recommendations by WAP. However, that's only taking into account the measurable amount of A and D that's in the pinnacle product. I read an article about how the fermented clo contains levels of vitamin A that aren't measurable in the testing they use, and that is why WAP says you can take half as much of the fclo and still get the same benefits, which would come out to 1.5 tsp a day for pregnant/nursing women..

I also wanted to give a tip for people having trouble getting their clo down the hatch. I have the cinnamon tingle and the main problem DS and I have with it is that it burns the backs of our throats when we take it. So we squirt the teaspoon or however much into a tablespoon, and then fill it up with raw honey or agave nectar. Raw honey is my preference because of the enzymes and probiotics, but agave still gets it down! yum!!

[Yulia_R]

What do you guys think about Nature's Way CLO? 1 softgel has 1,250 IU (25%) of vit A and 135 IU (34%) of vit D.

[mom61508]

IMO, the only CLO *I* would take is blue ice.

[Quaniliaz]

Originally Posted by RufusBeans

So those of you who tried the gel's which do you think is better the fruit or the chocolate?

I'm not a fan of the chocolate. It is the only FCLO flavor I've tried, and admittedly I hate anything even vaguely fish flavored - but I could get down some other brand of non-fermented Orange flavored clo much easier. So it could be the FCLO that is hard for me...but the chocolate flavor doesn't help - and it really limits what you can mix it with. For example chocolate in apple sauce just doesn't seem like a good idea.

Originally Posted by pampered_mom

Quaniliaz - I say you take what you can...some is better than none at all!

True!

Originally Posted by sprouthead

can you tell me where, or how you got that info? because according to my math, a 1/2 tsp of the fclo/bo combo would provide 3000 ius of A and 750 ius of D, so around 3 tsp would provide 18000 ius of A and 4500 ius of D, which is close to the recommendations by WAP. However, that's only taking into account the measurable amount of A and D that's in the pinnacle product. I read an article about how the fermented clo contains levels of vitamin A that aren't measurable in the testing they use, and that is why WAP says you can take half as much of the fclo and still get the same benefits, which would come out to 1.5 tsp a day for pregnant/nursing women..

I also wanted to give a tip for people having trouble getting their clo down the hatch. I have the cinnamon tingle and the main problem DS and I have with it is that it burns the backs of our throats when we take it. So we squirt the teaspoon or however much into a tablespoon, and then fill it up with raw honey or agave nectar. Raw honey is my preference because of the enzymes and probiotics, but agave still gets it down! yum!!

3 t = 1T - but I'm glad to hear that half as much would probably be adequate!

And thanks for the tip - I'm going to try it! DD might go for that, too.

[Quaniliaz]

Originally Posted by Yulia_R

What do you guys think about Nature's Way CLO? 1 softgel has 1,250 IU (25%) of vit A and 135 IU (34%) of vit D.

Originally Posted by mom61508

IMO, the only CLO *I* would take is blue ice.

Yulia - I think the issue is that Blue Ice is the only brand of CLO who's processing doesn't take out Vit A & D. The other brands' processing destroys those vitamins and then synthetic vitamins are added back in. Those synthetics don't work in the same way as natural sources, and there can be problems with assimilation & toxicity.

If that is wrong, someone please respond - I've really done very little research on the matter - just giving my very basic understanding (based on something like 2 articles...)

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by Quaniliaz

Yulia - I think the issue is that Blue Ice is the only brand of CLO who's processing doesn't take out Vit A & D. The other brands' processing destroys those vitamins and then synthetic vitamins are added back in. Those synthetics don't work in the same way as natural sources, and there can be problems with assimilation & toxicity.

If that is wrong, someone please respond - I've really done very little research on the matter - just giving my very basic understanding (based on something like 2 articles...)

Does Blue Ice have softgels? I did get their fermented CLO once and my son said it tasted aweful and poor dd actually vomited twice while trying to take it. They do very well with Nature's Way softgels, even though they do chew them.

[pampered_mom]

Originally Posted by sprouthead

can you tell me where, or how you got that info? because according to my math, a 1/2 tsp of the fclo/bo combo would provide 3000 ius of A and 750 ius of D, so around 3 tsp would provide 18000 ius of A and 4500 ius of D, which is close to the recommendations by WAP. However, that's only taking into account the measurable amount of A and D that's in the pinnacle product. I read an article about how the fermented clo contains levels of vitamin A that aren't measurable in the testing they use, and that is why WAP says you can take half as much of the fclo and still get the same benefits, which would come out to 1.5 tsp a day for pregnant/nursing women..

Ummm....we're saying the same thing, there are 3t in 1T. As for the whole there are levels of vit A (or D for that matter) that aren't "measurable"...I guess I'm not really sure about that. Add that to the list of things about GP and their product that make me a little bit uncomfortable. However, there's nothing wrong with starting at 1 1/2 teaspoon and seeing how that goes...because as I've said, any amount of cod liver oil you get is better than nothing at all.