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post #101 of 107
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Originally Posted by Oriole View Post
I am not concerned for my own time, I am more concerned for all the other people that came in and are forced to wait because of the customer that was late before them.

Not to mention the lost business. I changed my primary care physician because they were always late. I have left hair salons when they run more than 5-10 minutes over my scheduled time. And I didn't go back. And I let them know why.

Now, if I were an employer and had an employee who was 5-10 minutes late all the time, I wouldn't care as long as they made up the time AND it didn't have an impact on customers by having them have to wait for the tardy employee or other employees by them having to work until the tardy employee gets there (even if it is the manager who is covering, that is still unacceptable). That employee would be gone if it did.
post #102 of 107
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Originally Posted by Goodmom2008 View Post
The notice specifically stated not to bring the kids. This was the Kindergarten and 2nd grade parent teacher conferences.

They would have to be idiots not to assume that when I didn't have the kids with me, that there was a babysitter involved. Seriously, these are teachers, they should know that there is going to be some kind of babysitting going on given the age groups.
Ya, you'd think so. And at our school, you'd think they'd realized that, with about a quarter of the kids from divorced families and many more dual-income, having to send someone to pick up the kids midafternoon was going to cause some serious problems. But I sat and talked with the principal about this -- she's a single mom too -- and she actually said to me, "But -- don't you think it's kind of a choice for the parents who come pick up their kids?" I almost fell off my chair. Yes, it's true we have a lot of SAHMs and a low FRL rate, but that's certainly not how it is across the board. No, it is not a choice for us to avoid working jobs involving real money and benefits so that we can be available to pick up the kids in the middle of the day, or start working the phones, when the babysitter fails to show. So we had a talk about that.

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It doesn't matter who was doing the babysitting, what matters is that someone else took time out of their schedule at my request (this happened to be paid to do so) to watch my kids for the times that I carefully scheduled with both teachers.

BTW, the parents after me also didn't have their kids with them. I bet they had babysitter's as well.
If it were me, and I needed timely, and after I explained this the school seemed unable to oblige, I'd just start bringing the kids along. When told I should've left them at home, I'd explain the issue. If we were turned away (which I can't imagine here), I'd have followed up with a letter to the teacher, with copies to the principal and superintendant. (I know a lot of moms don't like to do this kind of thing for fear of retribution, but I've never been very scared of teachers and feel able to protect my kid. There are also lessons to be learned from watching your parents stand up.)
post #103 of 107
I think the key here is the jujyfruitbaby's school is atypical. And, from what you've said, your whole area.

Where I live, it is simply the expectation that you are on time for things that have "times". Of course people are on occasion, late, but that is the exception, not the norm. It happens once, you figure out how to make it not happen again. And we have the normal population of families of small children who poop as they are walking out the door and we have traffic and other obstacles to being on time, just like everyone else. Somehow, we manage. It's not an opressive burden for me to get my kids to school on time, or me to work on time. I'm just doing my small part to keep things running smoothly. Because in my world, the late person in the wrench in the gears. That is a place I dislike being unless it's for some noble cause. The right to not pay attention to the clock in not one of those IMO.
post #104 of 107
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I think the key here is the jujyfruitbaby's school is atypical. And, from what you've said, your whole area.
It may be -- although in my experience living various places, large swaths of the US are atypical when it comes to time, then. I think in general, though you certainly couldn't hold every community to it, the further north and east you go the more the clock rules.

I was just thinking about the degree of negotiation that does go on with the school. Dd is six, and today she had about a half-hour's worth of homework; there's homework every night. I think this is silly for a six-year-old, and besides there are other things that are important for her to learn while not at school, like how to swim. So I have taken to writing in her little home-school folder things like, "Dd is still working on ____ and should have it complete tomorrow or Thursday." So far I've heard no complaints.

Sooner or later, I'm sure that some teacher at some conference will urge me to see that dd does _____ or concentrates on learning ______, and I will have to have a look and see if I agree. I'm aware that the teacher is being leaned on heavily to see that the kids pass certain tests, but this is the school's problem, not ours. There are also pedagogical models of the school's that I think are helpful, and others that I'm less interested in using on dd. So long as she stays out of trouble, though, and is not an obvious problem kid, I think I'll pretty much be able to pick and choose what we do at home.
post #105 of 107
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Originally Posted by jujyfruitbaby View Post

I was just thinking about the degree of negotiation that does go on with the school. Dd is six, and today she had about a half-hour's worth of homework; there's homework every night. I think this is silly for a six-year-old, and besides there are other things that are important for her to learn while not at school, like how to swim. So I have taken to writing in her little home-school folder things like, "Dd is still working on ____ and should have it complete tomorrow or Thursday." So far I've heard no complaints.

Sooner or later, I'm sure that some teacher at some conference will urge me to see that dd does _____ or concentrates on learning ______, and I will have to have a look and see if I agree. I'm aware that the teacher is being leaned on heavily to see that the kids pass certain tests, but this is the school's problem, not ours. There are also pedagogical models of the school's that I think are helpful, and others that I'm less interested in using on dd. So long as she stays out of trouble, though, and is not an obvious problem kid, I think I'll pretty much be able to pick and choose what we do at home.
I agree 100%, wholeheartedly with the above!

Homework is just unnecessary busywork. Too many stupid worksheets and worksheets definitely DO NOT grow dendrites!!! Recent research has also shown homework has absolutely NO educational benefits for children, particularly those in lower elementary.

If my students do not learn what they need to pass those tests IN my classroom or getting the interventions they need during the school day (not during recess -- recess should NEVER be taken away!), then the school and me, as their teacher, are not doing our jobs well enough and we (the school and teacher) need to find the hole in the learning process for that child.

I try to NOT give homework every year and even send out a letter stating my reasons and the recent research against homework, but parents are adamant about receiving homework. Although, I tell them over and over again... the best work you can do with your child at home is to read, read, read and talk to them about what they are reading.

My ds is a first grader and we are struggling with homework. It is just too much and we both have better things to do with our time... long bike rides looking at all the shore birds, learning to play the guitar, going rock climbing, etc. Additionally, my ds has a lot of struggles with handwriting, his fine motor skills are slowly developing, therefore all the worksheets are just torturous for him. Finally, in all honestly, after having taught 20 1st graders all day long, the last thing I want to do it come home and do it some more.

I am conferencing with his teacher this week about an alternate homework plan for him that will include all the extra-curricular activities we do together.
post #106 of 107
I'M NOT PERFECT EITHER! I'm really really good at being late too, especially since having my daughter... I know you didn't ask for advice so just skip the rest if you don't want any... but I have 2 strategies that have been working really well for me so thought I would share...

1. I set all my clocks fast.... I try not to pay attention as to exactly how fast they are so I can't trick myself into thinking I have more time.. I just convince myself that whatever time my clock says is what it is so I better get my a** in gear.

On top of setting the clocks fast....

2. I plan on getting places 15 minutes early, so if I am supposed to be somewhere at 8 am... I tell myself I have to be there at 7:45... then in the am, if I get behind and I am "on-time" for 8 am I am still a couple mins early... I also have things in the car that I just leave there to occupy time where I might be waiting because I was early, like a book or toys for my daughter..

(I am still late sometimes, but these strategies have helped make me late a lot LESS often)...

best to yoU! and don't worry about crying in front of the teacher... I cried in front of my boss a few times, that was REALLY embarassing
post #107 of 107
wow there are schools that are so strict about children at PT meetings?

dd has been thru two schools. and i have gone up and said its hard for me to not bring her. and they have said we encourage no children there, but we understand so its ok to have kids there if you have no other choice.

so true about PT meetings too. i was volunteering so i knew what was going on in the class. so the teacher had a meeting set up with ex and i didnt do one. it was totally unnecessary.

so far i have found the schools in our district all work with the parents. it would be terrible if they didnt. there are lots and lots of single family or gparent family homes.

but yes i have to speak up to find out it is not as strict of a policy as i thought it was.
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