Flumist to be given at school...help! - Page 2

[mumm]

Originally Posted by pammysue

I would keep my kids out at least the day of the vaxes. I would not take the chance my child might accidentally get the vax.

Since when did schools become medical providers? Did they send home any information on side effects, etc? Do you have to sign for your child to receive the shot? How are they handling informed consent?

I don't have any concerns about accidental vaxs. They aren't stupid, and if I felt they would screw up something like that I doubt I would trust them with my kid on a daily basis. It isn't the individual schools deciding to do this it is the state (probably with federal help. I don't know, don't really care. ) The school is doing what they are required to do. I like my school nurse well enough and know that her kids were/are selectively and/or delayed vax.

At this point we have to send in a statement of interest for either yes or no vax my kids for season flu. We will do the same for H1N1. Then there is another consent form for if you do want with a list of questions about the health of the recipient. You also need to sign that you got the vis (vaccine information sheet) which of course was not actually provided!

I think being around hundreds of recently misted kids is different than an adult in the workplace with several recently misted adults. Say 98% of the kids in the school are misted vs 45% in the workplace. And lets face it, kids are nasty in regards to personal hygiene. They aren't even given the chance to wash hands before lunch. A kid has to step away from the crowd to use the bathroom (maybe get a reprimand for not going when they were supposed to?) and wash before lunch or snack.

Ok -off my rambling soapbox!!!

[Cristiaz]

I would keep him home and avoid him being vaxed. It can happen by mistake regardless of your wishes. Unless they assure you 100% he won't be vaxed.

[jeliphish]

I am definitely going to be in the minority here... And while I delay and refuse certain vax's including the flu shot, my toddler and myself will be receiving flumist. After researching extensively, for me the benefits outweighted the minor risks. Since it is a weakened strain of the live virus there are no preservatives. Additionally I feel that immunity to various different strains of the flu will provide further protection to our family in the event of an epidemic/pandemic of a mutated form of a flu virus. There is very little chance that DD or myself will get the flu from the mist and if we do... Well then we do... I still feel like for us there is some value in gaining this immunity. -/

[MommyHawk]

Originally Posted by mumm

I figure even a healthy kid who is stuck in a petri dish for 9 hours with hundreds of kids who have just recieved the mist will end up getting the flu. And then bring it home to the rest of the family. Ugh... I am so frustrated with our schools right now. I can't figure out how to handle this for my two public school kids. Even DP's company has a rule that you can't work for 12 hours after getting the intranasal mist.

so it's OK to protect adults and not kids?

I'm keeping him home all week. It's kindergarten, I miss him, and he hasn't missed a day yet. I think he deserves a break. It'll be perfect timing. And then if they end up closing the school due to too many kids sick? he'll be safely at home.

[Laur]

Originally Posted by jeliphish

Since it is a weakened strain of the live virus there are no preservatives. -/

But it does contain MSG, and that scares me!

[Laur]

Our school is giving the flu vaccines in the school gym the same day as the Fall Festival. I feel like I may be overreacting, but I think I have to tell her we can't go to the festival this year. It's outdoors with lots of games -- so there will be lots of runny noses and sneezing, then handling the balls, bean bags, etc. Not sure I want her handling that stuff right after a kid who just got a FluMist vaccine and may have wiped their nose, etc.!

[frugalmama]

Originally Posted by Laur

Our school is giving the flu vaccines in the school gym the same day as the Fall Festival. I feel like I may be overreacting, but I think I have to tell her we can't go to the festival this year. It's outdoors with lots of games -- so there will be lots of runny noses and sneezing, then handling the balls, bean bags, etc. Not sure I want her handling that stuff right after a kid who just got a FluMist vaccine and may have wiped their nose, etc.!

Don't feel bad at all - we're veto-ing going Trick-or-treating this year due to the H1N1 mist and adults in the household with suppressed immune systems. In the long run it's better to miss a little fun and not get sick.

[MommyHawk]

Originally Posted by Laur

Our school is giving the flu vaccines in the school gym the same day as the Fall Festival. I feel like I may be overreacting, but I think I have to tell her we can't go to the festival this year. It's outdoors with lots of games -- so there will be lots of runny noses and sneezing, then handling the balls, bean bags, etc. Not sure I want her handling that stuff right after a kid who just got a FluMist vaccine and may have wiped their nose, etc.!

My husband says that they schools/gov't is expecting a huge flu epidemic this year, something that will eventually close the schools down for a time until it blows over...my conspiracy theory mind says that they WANT a huge flu epidemic, otherwise why would they coincidentally keep doing vaxs on days when all the kids are there at school, introducing the virus into the school building, having a fall festival the same day as a vax??? It's like they are blatenly ignoring their own warnings and just handing vaxs out like candy...

DS hasn't missed a day of school yet...guess he'll get a well deserved week off next week! I miss him anyway, so oh well. I have a letter written for the principal of the school about the vax and not allowing the kids to wash their hands - the most preventative measure you can take against the flu - before lunch...but I'm not sure if I should even bother...he works for the gov't...kwim?

just seems as though the gov't knows what they are doing and they are trying to do something wrong...and scary...

[ZoeyZoo]

Originally Posted by jeliphish

I am definitely going to be in the minority here... And while I delay and refuse certain vax's including the flu shot, my toddler and myself will be receiving flumist. After researching extensively, for me the benefits outweighted the minor risks. Since it is a weakened strain of the live virus there are no preservatives. Additionally I feel that immunity to various different strains of the flu will provide further protection to our family in the event of an epidemic/pandemic of a mutated form of a flu virus. There is very little chance that DD or myself will get the flu from the mist and if we do... Well then we do... I still feel like for us there is some value in gaining this immunity. -/

I urge you to read the Mercola articles. There is one there (it is target for people over 50) that is written by a neurologist and discusses the affects on the brain of live vaxes. There are side effects to live vaxes.

[mumm]

Originally Posted by MommyHawk

my conspiracy theory mind says that they WANT a huge flu epidemic, otherwise why would they coincidentally keep doing vaxs on days when all the kids are there at school, introducing the virus into the school building, having a fall festival the same day as a vax??? It's like they are blatenly ignoring their own warnings and just handing vaxs out like candy...

Our school is giving the seasonal flu mist on a teachers' only day. Only the 4 youngest grades are getting it due to limited vaccine and it is on a friday (no other kids in the school except those getting it) and school doesn't resume until Tuesday because of Columbus Day. I think this is probably the best they could do and am happy with that. I'm sure a lot of kids will be away for the 4 day weekend and get it the following week during school hours but hopefully the majority will get it then.

I've heard a lot of "any parent who doesn't give their kid the h1n1 should be charges with neglect and abuse" sort of talk from parents around me. I feel like they hope my kid(s) will end up very ill just to prove they were right.

[MommyHawk]

Originally Posted by mumm

I've heard a lot of "any parent who doesn't give their kid the h1n1 should be charges with neglect and abuse" sort of talk from parents around me. I feel like they hope my kid(s) will end up very ill just to prove they were right.

INSANE!!!

And so what if they get sick? Swine Flu is not as dangerous as they are making it out to be...The gov't knows how to use the fear factor to get us to do what they want, turn on each other, and take their influence to the extreme...

I just posted this to my local tribe and wonder if anyone else is doing/thinking the same...I want to inform my school principal that this is risky, but then again, he's gov't too...gov't schools dressed up in pretty colors and cartoon characters are still just that...gov't schools...

[aniT]

Our school sent out an email that they were working with the county health department to set up a flu clinic. I sent back an email telling him (super intendant) that if it was during school hours that I would keep my daughter out of school that day to avoid any confusion or accidents. His response was "Thanks for the vote of confidence." I sent another one back outlining my concerns and he sent another sarcastic email back stating how "of course" it would not be during school hours and "of course" they would only do it with parental consent. How the hell am I to know that it would "of course" be after school hours? He did not say that in the first global email.

That said, DH works for the US. District Court and they shot flu mist up everyones (everyone being those who wanted it) noses in the Jury Assembly Room last week and are going to offer it again next week. In the JURY ASSEMBLY ROOM! So this live virus is going to hang around there for weeks and get another shot to make sure it hangs around there long and people will be forced to go hang out there for who knows how long while they pick jurors? Bah.