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Originally Posted by gr8blessings  OK, thanks for correcting me. What you
have just stated is our current understanding of host-pathogen relationship and is based on germ theory. I would also add that whether someone gets the disease or not also depends on the virulence of the microorganism and dosage in addition to the state of their host defenses. A very virulent organism will cause disease in someone who was previously healthy with a fully intact, functional immune system. Exposure to an overwhelming number of organisms can also overwhelm a fully intact, functional immune system as well.
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What I stated had nothing to do with Germ Theory. It was actually based on
Cellular Theory which is the complete opposite of Germ Theory.
A person’s nutritional status could change the virulence of a virus. Immune suppression happens when there are nutritional deficiencies of essential nutrients, which allows viruses to become more virulent. Russell Blaylock M.D.’s book “Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life” documents this in studies on page 163 of that book. One particular study demonstrated that the “coxsackievirus” caused a particular form of heart damage in certain regions of China, but it was discovered the disease only occurred in areas with low soil selenium levels. Therefore, if the virus was imported into the U.S. from China, the focus should be not on how virulent the virus can potentially become, but to make sure that we have optimal nutritional levels, particularly in selenium, to prevent the virus from becoming highly virulent in the first place.
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| Attenuated organisms do not cause disease because they lack the virulence to do so. The fact that this is not natural is a good thing. The immune system is thus able to respond and produce a normal immune response and the production of memory cells so that the immune system is bigger, better, faster when/if the person encounters the wild type strain without suffering from the disease to gain that immunity. |
The anti-body theory that you are referring to in the above quote concerns only the humoral (Th2) branch of the immune system, the branch that is responsible for antibody production and ignores the cellular (Th1) branch of the immune system, the branch that is responsible for digesting and discharging microorganisms. Vaccines overstimulate the Th2 branch, and do not stimulate the Th1 branch, thus causing an abnormal immune respose, which causes “the functional balance of the immune system toward the antibody-producing side (Th2) and away from the acute inflammatory discharging side (the cell-mediated side or Th1).”
The quoted part is from:
http://drtenpenny.com/vaccines_how_deadly.aspx
Scroll down to the "It’s not so complicated" section of the article for more of an explanation on immune system function and response.
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| As for vaccinated individuals passing on the wild strain...not likely since their immune system prevents the virus from replicating. Without replicating, there is nothing to pass on. |
Can you please explain how vaccines force a person’s immune system to prevent viruses from replicating? I’ve never heard anyone say that vaccines have that ability, so I’m interested to know where you got that theory from?
