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GD/AP Motivation--A Case Study

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You know I am trying to be a good AP/GD parent BUT I am also human and there are days I wonder if I will ever get it all right. Today, I am feeling pretty good though, although at the expense of some other little girl whose parents are not into GD/AP. If you've been trying to figure out how AP/GD works, this is a good compare/contrast anecdote. Also, I need to share because it made me sad.

DD and I are doing a nature class at the local wild animal rescue shelter. The class is fantastic, lots of hands on natural science, but there is one little girl who is ON FIRE with energy and mischief. She is very obviously outpacing her elderly grandmother who is her caretaker, I assume, while the parents work.

So grandma spends the class alternating between age-induced obliviousness (I was the one who noticed DGD eating the googly eyes) and spanking to control outbursts from DGD.

Finally snack time came and DGD was very sad when she finished her cookies. She started shrieking like a banshee while the instructor was trying to read a story. So grandma starts threatening to leave/spank etc... The instructor intervenes and tells DGD to shush.

At no time does anyone realize that DGD is having a hard time with the transition of her snack ending. She needs help to navigate her emotions. I try to verbalize 'Oh she's sad her snack ended' and got the death glare from the teacher as in 'shut up you meddling mommy'.

More spanking ensues as does more shrieking.

Class ends (thank the gods) and we all leave. Wouldn't you know I am parked next to Grandma and DGD? DGD is raging and fighting going into her car seat. Grandma is spanking her.

I'm starting to be very upset at the senseless spanking that isn't doing anything and realizing that not only are DGD's needs being unmet, they aren't even recognized.

I step in and ask if Grandma needs any help. I volunteer some cookies as a bribe which gets DGD's attention and into the car seat.

What I wanted to do was sit Grandma down and say:

1.If you leave emotional needs unmet, the acting out gets even worse.

2. Have a plan. Always be one step ahead. When it's time to leave, it's not 'time to leave' it's 'time to go to the car and get some juice and crackers'. Giving little ones something to look forward too really helps with transitions, you know?

3. Have you noticed spanking DOESN'T WORK. Especially as the primary behavior control method. Try a hug and some empathy sometime.

On the upside, I do see the positive contrast with how I handle DD. Not that I am perfect--far from it, but I do try. Trying pays off. DD is 6 mos to 1 year younger and much better able to navigate her emotions.

But I sure do feel awful for DGD.

V
post #2 of 4
oh boy, when I read this I just keep thinking "I wonder if the little girls parents are aware their Mom is spanking her all day long." This is one main reason I would never leave my kids with either of our Mom's on a regular basis. I don't want them to be involved in discipline. In fact I logged on here to post a question about how to handle it when they try to.
post #3 of 4
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If I were the instructor, I would carefully consider calling mom and dad for multiple reasons.

1.Safety. Grandma is just outpaced. If she's home with DGD in a toddler proof environment where it's okay not to know everything DGD is doing every second, then fine. But in the public arena where DGD is opening doors and making a run for it and there is no way in hell grandma is going to run when she has trouble just walking? Not good.

2.The discipline is not working and is actually pretty harmful imo. Imagine every time you needed help dealing with your emotions all you got was smacked or threatened. I can't imagine this ends well for DGD's psychological development. Although this would be trickier to bring up with parents since spanking is so commonplace. If the spanking was at least effective (i.e. it actually controlled behavior and didn't need to repeated constantly so that there were relative periods of peace) I could live and let live but it's not working and it appeared to be the only tool grandma had.

V
post #4 of 4
How old is the child?
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