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DH's anger and need for support

post #1 of 12
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DH and I have been seeing a family counselor regarding this issue, but I wondered if any of you had experienced similar situations and had advice or suggestions.

DH comes from a pretty dysfunctional family, and deals with anger issues. His father and brother have pretty explosive personalities, and DH struggles with this as well.

He never directs the anger at people, so much as being destructive of his environment (punching a door, breaking one of the brick pavers outside, putting a dent in the hood of the car).

He says he feels like he doesn't get heard, that the anger just boils over, and it is an issue of respect, in that he is not being treated with respect.

Our counselor suggested that it might be that he learned this behavior from watching his dad, and when faced with certain situations, the anger memory is triggered, and he's just acting out because these specific buttons were pushed.

I know counseling is a good step, but is there anything I can be doing to assist DH?

He would never be violent toward me or DD, but he is very loud, tends to explode verbally, and hits things.

How also can I protect DD from these situations? I don't want her to grow up with an 'anger memory.'

Thanks, mamas.
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 
Here are some situations that trigger DH's anger:

- someone cuts him off in traffic

- a customer is rude to him at work

- he accidentally drops a glass dish and it breaks

It is all stuff that most people would be frustrated by, but move on fairly quickly. DH, instead, has a huge meltdown, yells obscenities, punches things, and then becomes depressed about how he can't control his behavior, says he's worthless, etc..
post #3 of 12
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I know how stressful it is.
This sounds kind of like my DP... He's not as bad anymore, though the potential still lurks under the surface and can come out when he's had a few beers or is under stress. Especially in the beginning of our relationship he would relatively often have angry outbursts (kicking things, yelling, etc.) in public or private. Triggers for this behavior would be frustration, minor setbacks, feeling foolish (he was and still is a bit paranoid which doesn't help)... He also comes from a rather fractured home life and his dad was also very explosive (again, not physically abusive but broke stuff, yelled, etc.) so he has had a lot to deal with and he's doing pretty good considering everything.
However, that never made it ok with me for him to cause me constant stress over things that normal people would get over quickly, and I have expressed this to him consistently. If he ruins my evening by going into a deep depression over missing a bus or something, I am going to let him know about it, that it causes me a lot of tension and grief and that I shouldn't have to deal with that, and that it also hurts me to see him having such a hard time. This has resulted in us fighting a fair amount as he tends not to want to hear that, but also in him opening up to me about the roots of his behavior and making sincere attempts to change when he hears how much it hurts me when I can never trust him to deal with his own emotions. It really takes a lot from a person to constantly be walking on eggshells around your partner, someone you should be able to trust and expect to support you as much as you support them. He has heard me when I have told him this, and I have done my very best to listen to what he has to tell me about his difficulties and why he is the way he is, and to support him when he tries to control himself.
Over time DP has gotten a lot better - he can deal with minor setbacks in daily life almost all the time now without blowing up or getting really depressed. One thing that has helped him *a lot* is that he has been meditating for half an hour twice a day for a year now. He has gotten very into Zen Buddhism and it seems to be just what he needs to ground himself and add some perspective to things. When he doesn't meditate we both really notice the (negative) difference in his ability to deal with the difficulties of everyday life. Also, he had some good emotional-release therapy about a year ago, after which I noticed a huge difference already, though the meditation is what has really produced a lasting effect.
I don't feel like I am walking on eggshells around him anymore like I did, I don't feel as drained from holding him up emotionally all the time, because I don't have to as much - and this is mostly a result of his serious, ongoing striving to deal with his dark side, for my sake at first and now more for his own sake as well.
Honestly though, he still has occasional outbursts, and I don't know if I will ever be able to completely trust his reactions to things. He has low self-esteem for sure and the fact that he can't always control his reactions doesn't help with that (the very vocal self-loathing after losing control ). We don't have kids yet, but I have also wondered how it will be when he has an outburst with kids around. I have a friend with a father like that and it really seemed to traumatize her. And DP's father was like that and obviously it affected how he deals with his own frustrations. It's kind of depressing to think about it. I can only trust that DP is doing his very best, and hope that it will continue to get better with time as it has this far...
So, sorry I don't have much constructive advice for you but wanted to let you know that you're not the only one and it can get better if your DP is willing to work on himself... which it sounds like he is. mama, it's hard living with an emotionally damaged partner, he is lucky to have you who care about him so much and I'm sure he knows that.
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thank you for such an amazing response. So much of what you've said really resonates with the experiences I've/we've had. I had not thought of exploring meditation, and I will also definitely look more into emotional release therapy.

I never thought of it in terms of walking on eggshells around him, but you are absolutely right in that description. Thinking over some of the recent situations, I immediately feel tense and worried. Never knowing what will set things off can make for a lot of frustration.

Sometimes I feel like I need to yell or throw things just to get his attention during arguments, which is not how I am at all. Before we were married, friends always commented on how laid back I was, and now friends talk about how quiet and less-outgoing I've become. I feel like it is related a lot to this situation. I have also gained a tremendous amount of weight in our decade together.

Thank you again for your response. I'm going to look into Buddhist groups in our area and also ask our counselor about emotional release therapy.
post #5 of 12
Glad if I could help All the best on your journey with your DH!
post #6 of 12
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Our counselor also suggested DH take a PTSD test. He said a current theory is that children who grow up in abusive households, even if the abuse is verbal, will exhibit a sort of PTSD and that anger is frequently a side-effect (for lack of a better term).


Why is anger a common response to trauma?


Anger is usually a central feature of a survivor's response to trauma because it is a core component of the survival response in humans. Anger helps people cope with life's adversities by providing us with increased energy to persist in the face of obstacles. However, uncontrolled anger can lead to a continued sense of being out of control of oneself and can create multiple problems in the personal lives of those who suffer from PTSD.

One theory of anger and trauma suggests that high levels of anger are related to a natural survival instinct. When initially confronted with extreme threat, anger is a normal response to terror, events that seem unfair, and feeling out of control or victimized. It can help a person survive by mobilizing all of his or her attention, thought, brain energy, and action toward survival. Recent research has shown that these responses to extreme threat can become "stuck" in persons with PTSD. This may lead to a survival mode response where the individual is more likely to react to situations with "full activation," as if the circumstances were life threatening, or self-threatening. This automatic response of irritability and anger in individuals with PTSD can create serious problems in the workplace and in family life. It can also affect the individuals' feelings about themselves and their roles in society.

Another line of research is revealing that anger can also be a normal response to betrayal or to losing basic trust in others, particularly in situations of interpersonal exploitation or violence.

Finally, in situations of early childhood abuse, the trauma and shock of the abuse has been shown to interfere with an individual's ability to regulate emotions, which leads to frequent episodes of extreme or out of control emotions, including anger and rage.

How can posttraumatic anger become a problem?

Researchers have described three components of posttraumatic anger that can become maladaptive or interfere with one's ability to adapt to current situations that do not involve extreme threat:

* Arousal: Anger is marked by the increased activation of the cardiovascular, glandular, and brain systems associated with emotion and survival. It is also marked by increased muscle tension. Sometimes with individuals who have PTSD, this increased internal activation can become reset as the normal level of arousal and can intensify the actual emotional and physical experience of anger. This can cause a person to feel frequently on-edge, keyed-up, or irritable and can cause a person to be more easily provoked. It is common for traumatized individuals to actually seek out situations that require them to stay alert and ward off potential danger. Conversely, they may use alcohol and drugs to reduce overall internal tension.


* Behavior: Often, the most effective way of dealing with extreme threat is to act aggressively, in a self-protective way. Additionally, many people who were traumatized at a relatively young age do not learn different ways of handling threat and tend to become stuck in their ways of reacting when they feel threatened. This is especially true of people who tend to be impulsive (who act before they think). Again, as stated above, while these strategies for dealing with threat can be adaptive in certain circumstances, individuals with PTSD can become stuck in using only one strategy when others would be more constructive. Behavioral aggression may take many forms, including aggression toward others, passive-aggressive behavior (e.g., complaining, "backstabbing," deliberately being late or doing a poor job), or self-aggression (self-destructive activities, self-blame, being chronically hard on oneself, self-injury).


* Thoughts and Beliefs: The thoughts or beliefs that people have to help them understand and make sense of their environment can often overexaggerate threat. Often the individual is not fully aware of these thoughts and beliefs, but they cause the person to perceive more hostility, danger, or threat than others might feel is necessary. For example, a combat veteran may become angry when others around him (wife, children, coworkers) don't "follow the rules." The strength of his belief is actually related to how important it was for him to follow rules during the war in order to prevent deaths. Often, traumatized persons are not aware of the way their beliefs are related to past trauma. For instance, by acting inflexibly toward others because of their need to control their environment, they can provoke others into becoming hostile, which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. Common thoughts people with PTSD have include: "You can't trust anyone," "If I got out of control, it would be horrible/life-threatening/intolerable," "After all I've been through, I deserve to be treated better than this," and "Others are out to get me, or won't protect me, in some way."

How can individuals with posttraumatic anger get help?


In anger management treatment, arousal, behavior, and thoughts/beliefs are all addressed in different ways. Cognitive-behavioral treatment, a commonly utilized therapy that shows positive results when used to address anger, applies many techniques to manage these three anger components:

* For increased arousal, the goal of treatment is to help the person learn skills that will reduce overall arousal. Such skills include relaxation, self-hypnosis, and physical exercises that discharge tension.

* For behavior, the goal of treatment is to review a person's most frequent ways of behaving under perceived threat or stress and help him or her to expand the possible responses. More adaptive responses include taking a time out; writing thoughts down when angry; communicating in more verbal, assertive ways; and changing the pattern "act first, think later" to "think first, act later."


* For thoughts/beliefs, individuals are given assistance in logging, monitoring, and becoming more aware of their own thoughts prior to becoming angry. They are additionally given alternative, more positive replacement thoughts for their negative thoughts (e.g., "Even if I am out of control, I won't be threatened in this situation," or "Others do not have to be perfect in order for me to survive/be comfortable"). Individuals often role-play situations in therapy so they can practice recognizing their anger-arousing thoughts and applying more positive thoughts.

There are many strategies for helping individuals with PTSD deal with the frequent increase of anger they are likely to experience. Most individuals have a combination of the three anger components listed above, and treatment aims to help with all aspects of anger. One important goal of treatment is to improve a person's sense of flexibility and control so that he or she does not feel re-traumatized by his or her own explosive or excessive responses to anger triggers. Treatment is also meant to have a positive impact on personal and work relationships.
post #7 of 12
Oh, that's really interesting, thanks for posting that. It really sounds like my DP and how he has learned to deal with a lot of his feelings (cognitively). Even before he started meditating that's how he made progress: through learning to recognize his reactions, what was really behind them, and not engage in them. Slowly and painfully, but still. I think the way the meditation has helped him in fact has been in calming his mind so he's able to reason with himself better and not get so dragged into the old negative reactions that had become automatic for him.
post #8 of 12
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I found a group that offers beginning meditation, and am going to suggest it to DH. Thank you again!
post #9 of 12
Wow, reading and taking notes because your description fits my husband almost to a t. The most bizarre things upset him and cause him to scream at people (driving), throw things across the room, etc. He's never even come close to physically hurting anyone but his rage is bad. His father is just an ___ for the most part and wasn't ever constructively involved, still criticizes instead of praises, etc and I know a LOT of it comes from that upbringing. Like you I really don't want our kids to see this and then repeat the behavior.
post #10 of 12
Thank you for the anger/PTSD information.
post #11 of 12
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I've noticed that a lot of my husband's anger is triggered by stress, and also the feeling that he is powerless to do anything. He has said before that when he is upset, he wants to make people guess what is wrong. He said he doesn't want to have to tell people what is wrong, and then gets angry when people don't notice he's upset or figure out what the problem is.

It's really frustrating, and everything is sort of heightened by the fact that I'm looking for work. When we had DD, the goal was that I would stay at home with her indefinitely. Then we started having issues with DH's family, then we started having financial problems (costs of health insurance, etc.), and now he is angry with me because he is currently the sole income earner in our household, but my staying home is what we worked toward and agreed upon months ago.

I feel like his emotions change from one minute to the next, and it's hard sometimes to remember the person I married. We dated for two years before being married, but all of these issues only came up after our wedding.

Sorry to be so negative. I just feel so stressed, sad, upset, unhappy constantly, it feels like.
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by ceeveg View Post
I've noticed that a lot of my husband's anger is triggered by stress, and also the feeling that he is powerless to do anything. He has said before that when he is upset, he wants to make people guess what is wrong. He said he doesn't want to have to tell people what is wrong, and then gets angry when people don't notice he's upset or figure out what the problem is.

It's really frustrating, and everything is sort of heightened by the fact that I'm looking for work. When we had DD, the goal was that I would stay at home with her indefinitely. Then we started having issues with DH's family, then we started having financial problems (costs of health insurance, etc.), and now he is angry with me because he is currently the sole income earner in our household, but my staying home is what we worked toward and agreed upon months ago.

I feel like his emotions change from one minute to the next, and it's hard sometimes to remember the person I married. We dated for two years before being married, but all of these issues only came up after our wedding.

Sorry to be so negative. I just feel so stressed, sad, upset, unhappy constantly, it feels like.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. Do you have some support for you? It must be hard. I know because I watch DH go through it. I'm more along the lines of your DH. in fact, your whole first paragraph is exactly what I go through.

It's so hard. But as someone like your DH who relies on someone like you for support, thank you... Thank you for being there for him, whether he realizes it or not.

Please take care of yourself.
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