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Originally Posted by kittywitty View Post
I don't have Live Ed 1st grade, but you can regularly find it inexpensive and used on the waldorfcurriculumandsupplies yahoo group. I do like Enki 1st grade, but have you checked out the Live Ed samples online for 1st? At the very least, I think Enki is a bit overwhelming and extremely expensive, so I would choose Live Ed, but Enki's stories are fantastic.
I actually just got a Live Ed 1st grade set from that yahoo group (I can forsee this group being very dangerous for me, LOL!). I'm thinking of doing Enki kindy, though, or at least seeing if I can buy the fairy tales separately. I really do like Live Ed--I've devoured their site several times. It's the only Waldorf hs-ing site besides Enki that speaks to me. (I also ordered ALGF 1st grade because she was having a sale and I thought, why not?, just to try it out and compare to Live Ed).

Thanks for the suggestions!
post #102 of 109
Oh!! I'd love to join this thread too! Some wonderful information from all of you!!
post #103 of 109
Just wanted to say that I used Enki for K and 1st and simply LOVED it! It is a bit "much" and overwhelming, because it is truly a whole library of resources. So I would get it in enough time to really look it all over, & plan out your year way ahead of time. It's not a an "open up the book and go" kind of curriculum at all. I think I started reading and planning 6 months ahead of time. But I'll tell you what, it was the most beautiful, wise, fun, creative, enjoyable program to work with. I look forward to my DD using it next year.
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So, how is homeschooling going for everyone so far this year?

AnnetteMarie, I have specifically been wondering how things are going for you? I can't remember if this is the thread, oh no, it was one about Waldorf homeschooling with lots of kids, I think. Anyway, wondering how it was going for you and how your pregnancy is going.

We had a bit of a bumpy start to our year, but now it is going pretty fabulously. It IS hard, at least for me, with lots of kids though. And, I feel like we are definitely more Waldorf-inspired than pure Waldorf these days.

I've got a 3rd grader and a 6yo Kindergartener this year, as well as a 3yo and a 1yo, and it is hard (for me) to keep them all happy and getting what they need.

I am loving Little Acorn Learning monthly guides for my littler ones, including Lilah, my Kindergartner. It makes planning much MUCH easier.

I am finding that Lilah wants more though. She says things like "Mama, that's not school, that's singing and cooking and art." She loves it, but she wants more. She is dying to read, and often tries to follow along with Noah's lessons.

I am seriously considering buying her some 'Explode the Code' books and teaching her to read. I know she would love it. I am torn. Noah went to public school for Kindy and learned to read there, so I never had to make this decision for him. Still thinking....

Noah is loving 3rd grade so far. We are doing all the main themes of a Waldorf 3rd grade while also using some more traditional/classical resources for language arts and math. We started with a lot of form drawing, which he loves and woodworking, which was a lot of fun. He/we built a workbench. He really enjoyed it, but I must admit that I was hoping that he would fall in love with woodworking, and, while he did really enjoy it, it hasn't quite turned into a hobby.

We're using Singapore math, Writing With Ease and First Language Lessons, and, so far, we both really like them all. I had kind of resisted moving away from Waldorf, but now that I have, I feel a huge relief. Also, I'm "assigning" him books from Sonlight's reading lists. He LOVES to read, but left to his own devices he would (and does) re-read Harry Potter over, and over, and over again. He has enjoyed all of the books I've assigned so far, so that's good.

I'm really looking forward to starting a Native American block in a few weeks. I think it will be a lot of fun for us all.

It IS tough to fit it all into one day though. We haven't done any music yet, and I'm feeling a little bit stressed/guilty about that.

So that is my, very long-winded, update. I'm looking forward to hearing about what all of the rest of you are up to this fall!
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Originally Posted by chrissy View Post

AnnetteMarie, I have specifically been wondering how things are going for you? I can't remember if this is the thread, oh no, it was one about Waldorf homeschooling with lots of kids, I think. Anyway, wondering how it was going for you and how your pregnancy is going.
I actually just blogged about this this morning. It's been really really hard. Physically and emotionally, this has been my hardest pregnancy ever, and I'm never had easy pregnancies. The icing on the cake is that my husband, who is a pastor, has put in his mobility papers so we're looking at a new call/church sometime in the next year or so. We're hoping to end up closer to family (which in turn would land us closer to a great Waldorf school!).

Bottom line-- it isn't pretty and I wouldn't even necessarily call it Waldorf, but we're doing it. And I've been forced to really dig deep and look at the heart of why we chose Waldorf-inspired schooling. I believe the general main lesson topics speak to children's developmental stages, and so Nicholas and I cuddle up and read fairy tales and Katie Grace and I curl up and read Norse Mythology. The creativity is still there, but it's much more in the children's hands than guided by me. We still take things slowly and simply. The connections are all still there. The attachment is still there. Daniel is in the church preschool, and you know what? It hasn't killed him (or me, LOL!). He's loving it, so I am loving him being happy. And to be honest, having him gone for 2 1/2 hours in the morning means the rest of them can knock out most of school in that time, and they have a wonderful time when he's home.

So... two more months (or less) until the babies come. We'll see what happens then!
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I am not a Christian but everything else you say here really resonates, especially the paragraphs below!

Originally Posted by LuxPerpetua View Post

~ Specific types of handwork and structured creativity. I'm not a knitter nor can I sew but I'm very crafty in other ways. I'm also the daughter of an artist so it really irritates me being told to box in creativity by only painting using a certain technique and certain colors. I also am not going to pay $20 for 3 Stockmar watercolor paints when watered down Crayola tempera paint has the same effect on wet paper. I've also found that oil pastels (and even bathtub crayons sold at Toys R Us and craft stores in the children's section) have the same rich colors and creamy texture as beeswax crayons and are so much more affordable. We have an artwall at our home, which is just a large portion of our wall covered with white easel paper, and below it markers, paints, crayons, and chalk. It's wonderful to just have a place for spontaneous creativity. And I have no problem with dd drawing forms at age 2.

~ Boxing in Learning. I really dislike that in Waldorf ideology there is a particular progression laid out unilaterally for every child of what must be learned and at what point it should be learned. Life isn't that simplistic nor is the human will. I think some children may not be interested in letters until age 7 and they should not be rushed in their journey, but nor should a precocious learner be held back. My own dd became obsessed with letter at 15 months old, and knew them all by 18 months. This was completely child-led, as she noticed letters everywhere in her world (ingredients containers, sign posts, doormats, etc.). She is currently 3.75 and can read quite a few words by sight. She's also discovered the basic principles of mathmatics simply from playing with nuts, shells, rocks, and blocks. She understands that if she has 5 nuts, she can put two in one hand and 3 in the other, and yet she still has 5. Again, totally child-led, and done within a Waldorf environment. And she is incarnating beautifully. She has quite a bit of "head" knowledge but runs, jumps, plays with vigor. Her imaginative world is rich in fantasy but she enjoys understanding the world around her. If she asks me why leaves turn color I will give her a true explanation that is on her level, not tell her that fairies painted them overnight. I get tired of Waldorf books being so black and white on this issue--they seem to present factual knowledge as being presented to children in esoteric scientific jargon or in the world of fantasy, the latter being the "approved" way. I'm also not going to present fairies, gnomes, elves as fact. I'll tell stories about them, I'll paint pictures of them, and I'll pretend with them, but I do not believe they exist and so I'm not going to present them to her as if they do. I think children enjoy fantasy but that they also appreciate non-fantasy and they both want and need to know the difference.
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post #109 of 109
Okay, I haven't read this whole thread yet, but I'm very excited about it!!
We Waldorf-homeschooled ds for kindy and then put him into a wonderful art & development based school.
Waldorf-style living is very ingrained in our home at his point, though, and I am just now looking for a book on the second seven years. There are actually a lot of things about anthroposophic views of children that appeal to me, so I may be in the minority here.

Just thought I would share how ds after discovering Pokemon and Pokemon comic books (not something I am very excited about), has now spent the week-end, of his own volition, needle felting a pokemon : instead of wanting to buy toys, he knows that we make our own.

The way that he sees the world has been very shaped by Waldorf ideals, and it is so different from the way that I was raised. I am very grateful for his beautiful way of thinking.
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