Heroes Season 4 - Page 7

[Belle]

Originally Posted by MadiMamacita

what is going on with heroes over at hulu?
last week both new eps were listed as ep 13 and they have corrected that to read 12 and 13, but now the new one is listed as ep 15..
upon this rock 12
let it bleed 13
close to you 15
so am i missing one. or is hulu messed up in their numbering?

I'll have to check it out. I haven't watched last night's episode yet.
Opening credits say "Chaper 14 Close to you"

[~PurityLake~]

Originally Posted by Belle

At least they managed to write in a shirtless Sylar scene.

Yeah, I enjoyed that scene

[flminivanmama]

I think my dvr cut off the end... I definitely got no previews and the last scene for me was

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Noah kissing Elizabeth Rohm's character - Lauren? - and the three of them showing up. was that the end? - they beamed in, said something cute & it just stopped...

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[~PurityLake~]

Yes, FLMama, that was the end.

[flminivanmama]

thanks!

[Belle]

Any thoughts on this episode? I liked seeing Adam Munroe and George Takai's character again.

[journeymom]

I thought Hiro's story was really well done, with excellent writing, excellent story telling. The trial was great.

Gretchen's face just before it morphed into Sylar's was über creepy. Sylar kissing Claire was just gratuitous in my opinion. I'm very intrigued by where Sylar's story is going. He has the potential for great growth, but what evil twists and turns will he take along the way?

Samuel destroyed a whole town! Horrible!

[flminivanmama]

i didn't pay attention to the entire claire / gretchen conversation & had to rewind when I realized it was sylar

[StoriesInTheSoil]

Did anyone else feel bad for Sylar in this episode? I feel like a ninny saying that.

[Belle]

Originally Posted by tinyactsofcharity

Did anyone else feel bad for Sylar in this episode? I feel like a ninny saying that.

Not when I realize that Sylar has murdered 50+ people and he just threatened Matt's wife and son. Oh, and he slept with Matt's wife too. Framed Matt for the murder of the tow truck driver who stopped to offer help to Sylar when he blew a tire. Tortured Matt's mind for months. What else did he do to Matt? I don't blame Matt for what he did to Sylar.

It kind of reminded me of an Edgar Allen Poe poem I read once where they walled a drunk guy up alive. I can't remember which one it was.

Samuel is getting creepier. I start feeling sorry for him, then he goes and does something like having Lydia killed and makes himself seem like the good guy. Dh and I were watching it and when the shots started firing both of us said "That's not a sniper rifle firing". It was pretty obvious by the sound. We knew right away it wasn't Noah firing.

[journeymom]

Originally Posted by Belle

It kind of reminded me of an Edgar Allen Poe poem I read once where they walled a drunk guy up alive. I can't remember which one it was.

The Cask of Amontillado. Creepy!!

[journeymom]

Hello!

[*cricket cricket cricket*]

Anyone see that last episode? Would have loved for Sylar and Peter to be stuck together longer than just the one episode. There was so much more that could have been with Sylar's angst and Peter's anger. That was an intriguing story line and I wanted more of it!

And Sylar read Pillars of the Earth repeatedly! Has anyone here read it? I haven't, but I have the book. Do you think it's very significant that he read that book? Or is it just a plug for the mini-series?

So Sylar and Peter get out of captivity and Claire and Noah get buried. Nice little bit of ...I don't know what it's called. Parallelness?

[ollyoxenfree]

Originally Posted by journeymom

Hello!


And Sylar read Pillars of the Earth repeatedly! Has anyone here read it? I haven't, but I have the book. Do you think it's very significant that he read that book? Or is it just a plug for the mini-series?

I wondered that myself. The only thing I could come up with is my recollection that Follett's characters perpetuated some family traits throughout the centuries, whether the family fortunes rose or fell. Some traits were physical, and some were personality/characteristics/values.

Then there is the other "parallelism" - The Pillars of the Earth is about building a cathedral - a monument to God - but he and Peter were trying to tear down a wall. Perhaps Pink Floyd might have been a better choice...

[ollyoxenfree]

Originally Posted by ollyoxenfree

I wondered that myself. The only thing I could come up with is my recollection that Follett's characters perpetuated some family traits throughout the centuries, whether the family fortunes rose or fell. Some traits were physical, and some were personality/characteristics/values.

Then there is the other "parallelism" - The Pillars of the Earth is about building a cathedral - a monument to God - but he and Peter were trying to tear down a wall. Perhaps Pink Floyd might have been a better choice...

Oops, I realized I've mixed up the Pillars of the Earth and Sarum by Edward Rutherford - both are about building cathedrals. Sorry about that!

[Belle]

I also would have liked to see more Peter and Sylar stuck together. I know it was supposed to be years that they were together, but its seems like quite a turn around for Sylar's character in just one episode.

I still want Peter to have his original power back. He could dream the future then too. He didn't need to take that from his mom to do it.

Originally Posted by ollyoxenfree

Then there is the other "parallelism" - The Pillars of the Earth is about building a cathedral - a monument to God - but he and Peter were trying to tear down a wall. Perhaps Pink Floyd might have been a better choice...

I'll bet Pillars of the Earth was cheaper for NBC. NBC has been writing some large checks lately and don't have much of a budget. I was imaging The Wall anyway.

[~PurityLake~]

I think the show was timing Sylar's inner goodness being exposed at the same time that Samuel's evilness is proven, replacing one villian with another.

[journeymom]

Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~

I think the show was timing Sylar's inner goodness being exposed at the same time that Samuel's evilness is proven, replacing one villian with another.

I bet you're right.

[Wolfcat]

Originally Posted by Jesskathand

i am confused. this ep brought us back to season 1 where the company is looking for Sylar and Noah says they dont know what Sylar looks like.

When Noah and Sylar are partners (I think maybe in Season 3) they showed a flashback of Elle and Noah checking on Sylar before Sylar knew anything about powers. Elle practically fed him a guy with powers and started Sylar's killing spree.

how can Noah not know what he looks like?

(btw I did not care for this episode)

At that time, Sylar wasn't yet using the name Sylar... He was using his given name up until the time he started stealing powers on his own... I think Noah was ignorant of Elle's involvement for the most part... *wracking brain here* therefore he wouldn't have connected the murderer with the watchmaker.

Originally Posted by MadiMamacita

problem 1. nathan and sylar. Nathan saw his dead body. he isin sylar's body, and sylar's persona is now residing in parkman's head. I must have missed it when nathan and parkman/sylar touched and transfered sylar's persona into nathan's body (which is really sylar's body?) because thats what DH said happened.
If the above is correct.. I have some questions. Why was sylar/nathan having sylar's memories at the carnival? Then sylar morphed into nathan while he was asleep and had all of nathan's memories. I'm not getting this.

2. peter. I don't get how his power is working these days. It seems like he can willingly absorb someone's power (like the healing kid) but then sometimes he accidently gets the power because he touches someone (emma) but every time he touches someone he doesn't get their power. is this just an inconsistency, or am I missing something?

HELP!

What actually happened was this: Sylar touched Nathan and absorbed his memories; Sylar killed Nathan; Matt pushed Sylar out of the brain and left Nathan's memories, which "took over" the empty husk of Sylar... a disaster waiting to happen, as we have seen...

I think Peter's abilities are a little bit ker-fluckered since he lost them and took the injection to regain them... I don't think they are nearly as like what they were as I (at least) first thought. Maybe they are a little more intent-oriented, but that the intent isn't always conscious (?)

Originally Posted by KMK_Mama

Who's body was in the back of the pick-up truck at the carnival at the end?

Looked to me like the Puppet-master...

Originally Posted by journeymom

I thought Hiro's story was really well done, with excellent writing, excellent story telling. The trial was great.

Gretchen's face just before it morphed into Sylar's was über creepy. Sylar kissing Claire was just gratuitous in my opinion. I'm very intrigued by where Sylar's story is going. He has the potential for great growth, but what evil twists and turns will he take along the way?

Samuel destroyed a whole town! Horrible!

Hiro's trial rocked!! I loved how they did the end... a hero takes responsibility... NICE!

The Sylar thing is going right where I expected it to... He is totally going for a Darth Vader-like salvation, trying to reclaim his lost humanity.
And I've been thinking since 2nd season that if people had done this or that, Sylar wouldn't have been what he was... I'm not saying he isn't responsible for his choices, but no one made it easy for him to not want to lash out and gain power... I guess I'm saying I don't agree with his behavior but I understand it.
And I'm a few episodes behind so forgive me, but... I think Sylar is hunting down Matt to help him with this whole salvation thing...

And Samual is TOTALLY gonna be the new superbad... hands down...

Originally Posted by journeymom

Hello!

[*cricket cricket cricket*]

Anyone see that last episode? Would have loved for Sylar and Peter to be stuck together longer than just the one episode. There was so much more that could have been with Sylar's angst and Peter's anger. That was an intriguing story line and I wanted more of it!

And Sylar read Pillars of the Earth repeatedly! Has anyone here read it? I haven't, but I have the book. Do you think it's very significant that he read that book? Or is it just a plug for the mini-series?

So Sylar and Peter get out of captivity and Claire and Noah get buried. Nice little bit of ...I don't know what it's called. Parallelness?

I've read Pillars of the Earth... To me, PoE is about the limited-ness of our life choices within the circumstances of our lives... also, how one choice can lead to another, each seeming rational and correct until you step back and see the whole thing leading to something that is less then desirable...