Toxic Water - Page 2

[LBMarie9]

i am very confused too.

anyone know about or looked into Water Ionizers? tell me your opinion.

I KNOW I don't want distilled water--if I drink a water bottle of that stuff- I am sick and have a sore throad--RO is too expensive right now. and we are renting--so we are limited. we are currently using britta. (our city doesn't add flouride which is good- for now) -- but I can smell te chlorine in our shower and water..yuck!

[lastrid]

I found this, which can be attached to the black berkey filters to remove fluoride:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com...ilters-2-p-188

Does anyone have any experience or opinions on this?

[Theloose]

An interesting list of contaminants, where they come from, and what types of filters remove them. Unfortunately chloramines are conspicuously missing from the list. They're selling aquapure filters.
http://www.aquapurefilters.com/contaminates/

[momofmine]

The Aquasana removes up to 99% of chloramines.

http://www.aquasana.com.au/faqs/do-t...e-chloramines/

[KimPM]

Originally Posted by momofmine

The Aquasana removes up to 99% of chloramines.

http://www.aquasana.com.au/faqs/do-t...e-chloramines/

Just to put the info on this thread:
"The Aquasana Countertop will reduce chloramines by up to 99%, but not for a full 2000 litres. Because chloramine is a combination of ammonia and chlorine, chloramines will exhaust the filters after about 1500 litres (which means testing showed that the system was actually good for 3000 litres), or about 5 months."

[KimPM]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Yeah, I read the co-op post. I just... I don't even know where to find a list of the available filters. It seems like there are a thousand of them! I think I need to just buckle down and do it, but aarrggghhh... There are so many other things I'd rather be doing on the computer!

I did find this link that helps with the comparison a bit:
http://thewaterexchange.net/filter_comparison.html

http://www.thewaterexchange.net/fluo...er-filters.htm

To put the info on this thread:

"Activated alumina cartridges and reverse osmosis membrane filtration systems are the only two methods for removing fluoride from drinking water. Some companies claim that carbon filters will remove fluoride, but this is not correct."

[Distillation will also remove fluoride (but distillation may not desirable for long-term drinking water).]

"Also, all our fluoride systems use dual stage filters with activated alumina in the first stage and KDF/GAC in the second. We use the KDF/GAC cartridge to remove any activated alumina that may get into your water. Our Doulton ceramic cartridge will also reduce aluminum in your water and should be installed after the fluoride cartridge. "

"Beware of companies selling a single stage filter with just activated alumina. This setup doesn't protect against activated alumina in your water."

[MyLilPwny]

Originally Posted by eireann

we got first place! hooray! oh...wait....nevermind...


might explain my uranium in the 97th % on my hair test, which of course depletes calcium, magnesium and iron (who needs those, though? ) and deposits itself into the bones.

might explain why my minerals are wacky, huh? meh, again, that could be a result of hair vanity.

fantastic either way...

Yeah, same here I'm in California too and my uranium on the hair elements test is about at the 90%.

We run all the water in our house through a carbon filter and water softener. Drinking water is run through reverse osmosis.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by ThereseReich

Yeah, same here I'm in California too and my uranium on the hair elements test is about at the 90%.

95% here

[tashantx]

nak I talked to a water testing company and they said in general the well water in my area has more fluoride than the city water here...it's naturally occuring not added so would the aquasana even do me any good? We also have high levels of mercury cadmuim and arsenic ''in general'' for this areas wells. I drank this water for a long time thinking it had to be better than city water. ignorance really is bliss.

[tashantx]

Originally Posted by tashantx

nak I talked to a water testing company and they said in general the well water in my area has more fluoride than the city water here...it's naturally occuring not added so would the aquasana even do me any good? We also have high levels of mercury cadmuim and arsenic ''in general'' for this areas wells. I drank this water for a long time thinking it had to be better than city water. ignorance really is bliss.

aquasana says their filter (the one that leaves the minerals anyways) does not remove arsenic or mercury. I haven't had mine tested yet but I guess that's in order. For now we will just be buying r/o water and hopefully soon getting at least a r/o unit under the sink. As for our bathing water , we are stuck until we can afford a full house r/o unit. I might be overreacting but we do live in a pretty bad area as far as air quality etc...

[KimPM]

Pat - I am curious as to what you do for clean water, since you started this thread.

We currently have an RO system, but I'm wondering if it's too aggressive. Since you brought up this subject, I've been looking again at RO alternatives. It appears the the optimal solution would be different for people in different areas, as well as what form factor they want to have (plumbed, countertop, standalone).

[WuWei]

Just seeing this now. We have an RO system on our well water. We have copper pipes, otherwise I'd drink the well water.

I cook with the well water (or with bone broth). And I add a pinch of Epsom salts and a pinch of Redman Real Salt to each glass of drinking water. Plus, I use the well water to make homemade bone broths, but use bottled mineral water to make smoothies. We also make fresh green juice daily. And drink kefir daily. All have vitamins and minerals.

I believe the sea salt and mineral water are important with RO water, at least. Bone broths are really important for minerals.


Pat

[mommytolittlelilly]

So, California is no. 1.

I guess that says a lot about all their organic produce.

I suppose Mexico can't be much better.

[Chakra]

Hello! Hs anyone heard of a berkey water filter? It is the most powerful water filter in the world. It's not a R/O system which is great! It removes so much more than any filetr I have researched does. We use one and love it. I sell them in my store. I don't think I can post a link to my site on here but do some research on them. Pm if you wanna buy one, I will hook up a good deal.

The Berkey filters out ALL flouride and Arsenic to undetctable levels too.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by Chakra

Hello! Hs anyone heard of a berkey water filter? It is the most powerful water filter in the world. It's not a R/O system which is great! It removes so much more than any filetr I have researched does. We use one and love it. I sell them in my store. I don't think I can post a link to my site on here but do some research on them. Pm if you wanna buy one, I will hook up a good deal.

The Berkey filters out ALL flouride and Arsenic to undetctable levels too.

Do they all use holding tanks? We have really limited kitchen space, so I'd thrown it out since it looks like I can't hide it under the sink...

http://www.berkeyfilters.com/index.html

[Chakra]

No they don't. Thats the only thing that sucks about them. Here is the correct website you should be looking at if you want info on them.

http://www.berkeywater.com/start.main.html

[KimPM]

Originally Posted by Chakra

The Berkey filters out ALL flouride and Arsenic to undetctable levels too.

From what I've seen the Black Berkey element itself does not filter out much if any fluoride or arsenic. You need the add-on post filter PF-2 to do that. It adsorbs the fluoride using activated aluminum oxide. Since this is a post filter to the black berkey element, there is no filter after that one to catch the small amount of aluminum that can be excreted from the PF-2 filter. However, if you already have some amount of aluminum in your water, using the PF-2 may still result in a net reduction in the amount of aluminum in your output water.

If you don't want to test your water, check the current water quality report from your water company (if you're not on well water). It should give you an idea of what is in your water.

Here is a link to the PF-2 filter information:
http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com...ilters-2-p-188

It looks like the PF-2 filter has a much shorter life than the Black Berkey element, and the PF-2 is not cleanable.

[KimPM]

I just posted this on another thread, but I wanted to add this info to this thread too.

I've been researching RO alternatives lately. A multiple filter combination of activated aluminum in one housing, followed by a hybrid (Doulton) ceramic/carbon block filter is looking pretty interesting. I'd also consider adding a sub-micron filter in another housing. There are a number of places you can get either under-sink or countertop units that support 2 and 3 filter housings.

(Here is the other thread "Tap Water Filters": http://www.mothering.com/discussions....php?t=1160695 )

[WuWei]

Anyone know about the Kangen Water Alkalizer? Claims to produce water at a ph of 8.5 to 9.5. I can't discern if it adds calcium as the alkalizing agent.

Yes, I found that "Kangen water contains essential minerals, such as Calcium, Magnesium, and Potassium". http://iluvwater.com/

It also removes chlorine, fluoride and lead, to the tune of $5000!!! http://kangenwaterblog.com/fluoride-...rom-tap-water/

Sounds like an interesting proce$$.

Pat

[KimPM]

I've been reading this book: The Drinking Water Book: How to Eliminate Harmful Toxins from Your Water http://www.amazon.com/Drinking-Water...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

There's some good information in there.