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post #41 of 55
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Can bread be Paleo? My initial feeling is "no" - but perhaps?
Well, 'paleo' as in what folks living in the paleolithic era ate--bread was certainly not on the menu. I guess I'm looking for some grain free bread subs that are not nut/seed based...(should have posted in the grain free threads!) I've seen some almondmeal/arrowroot based bread subs on paleofood.com, so maybe if you use paleo accepted ingredients bread can be made paleo in theat way?

I'm really *not* paleo (we also do lentils and beans and some potatoes)--just interested in learning more and getting lots from these kind of discussions!
post #42 of 55
I'm going to join in. Just truly getting into it this week so perfect timing finding this thread! I started having problems similar to Metasquoia this past year, with this past month being really bad. My body seems to be naturally wanting this paleo diet...

I was TF for a couple years, but that is just not working anymore. I was strictly grain-free, dairy-free, soy-free, sugar-free, probably other things, for a couple years, but added some no-no's in as a trial. Not a happy body.


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Originally Posted by Metasequoia View Post
I've been eating like a hardcore, low-carb diabetic lately. (except for the tortillas on the carnitas last night )
I was really reacting to carbs/sugar & feared blood sugar/insulin issues leading towards diabetes. I don't "look like" someone who would develop diabetes - I'm 5'9 & 124 lbs, but I've had some pretty sorry adrenals for some time now which reduces the body's ability to regulate blood sugar/insulin. So I'm being super pro-active/careful.
The idea floating around right now is that my pancreas developed a sensitivity to estrogen. The pancreas is overeacting and dumping too much insulin out with every meal - especially when I eat a carb. My adverse reactions - panic attack-like incidents - are actually my adrenals freaking out on me due to severe adrenal fatigue + balancing the blood sugar the pancreas is messing up. I was told to triple my adrenal supplements while we wait for more test results.
post #43 of 55
hi ladies! count me in ... we all definitely need the support, as we are definitely eating in a minority fashion

what did you all do for halloween?
we had sugar-free tootsie rolls to pass out, made egg based chocolate fudge for at home, and ate pumpkin soup!! yum.
post #44 of 55
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Originally Posted by Kino View Post
The idea floating around right now is that my pancreas developed a sensitivity to estrogen. The pancreas is overeacting and dumping too much insulin out with every meal - especially when I eat a carb. My adverse reactions - panic attack-like incidents - are actually my adrenals freaking out on me due to severe adrenal fatigue + balancing the blood sugar the pancreas is messing up. I was told to triple my adrenal supplements while we wait for more test results.
Yea, I definitely see a correlation between unhappy adrenals & carb-intolerance. When I'm feeling better adrenal-wise - no dizziness upon standing, good energy, less aches - I've noticed I don't react to carbs. But I think this works cyclically - if I get rid of the carbs/sugar, my blood sugar will be more stable which will give my adrenals a break - which in turn will help keep my blood sugar even.

I don't even know IF my blood sugar/insulin is out of whack, but I know that I feel panicky (good description!) after eating carbs/sugar. I actually ate a few pieces of chocolate on Halloween & it didn't really bother me the way say, a potato does.

My ND wants me to take massive doses of B5 to help correct my hormonal imbalance & I know that B5 is ultra important for the adrenals.

Sooooo....back to the thread topic, lol. My uncertainty at this point is how to feed the family. I don't know what to believe. Some say that kids *need* carbs & for the most part, I find that they do require some carbs at each meal. If they eat just eggs for breakfast, they're hungry not too long after - especially Dd1 who is most like me. Bacon & eggs keep them content for longer, so maybe just more fat is needed. But especially at dinner, they seem to need *some* carb or they're pestering within 1/2 hour.

Another thing is snacking. Some say snacking should be avoided for kids (& adults) but sometimes (especially when they're REALLY active), they get hungry. My gut says to give something like nuts or some animal protein & fat - like a hard boiled egg & avocado.

It's so much easier to just make meat & veggies, but I wonder if the kids need more? They'll eat it without complaint, especially if I slather everything with raw butter. I guess way back when, kids ate Paleo & we survived & evolved. Tom Cowan says that kids should get some form of carbs (even in properly prepared grains) so they don't crave crappy carbs/sugar outside of the home. But I tend to lean towards any type of carby foods leading to carb cravings.

Dd1 is particularly prone to yeast & will load up on rice (cooked in bone broth with kombu, slathered in raw butter) like nobody's business. The other two are *much* more balanced. I've been making this rice for them about once a week because it gets the iodine & minerals into them.

How do you make soups? I admit to feeling like soups *need* a handful of rice or potato to complete them.
I made an awesome goat stew a couple of weeks ago (if I do say so myself ) but it had some carrots & potatoes which I think made the dish.
What kinds of substitutions do you use? I like my stews on the thick side.
post #45 of 55
I am not paleo perfect, so I do potatoes for soups. I try to do more sweet potatoes- of course there is the argument that all tubers are bad and the arguement that sweet potatoes/yams are ok. Also, I have used grated cauliflower as a rice sub in soup and just a general rice sub and I think it is pretty darn good.

The kids definitley eat more carbs than me. I don't know what to think about that, but as long as they seem to be doing well I am happy with a tf/whole foods diet for them- not so much a perfect paleo diet. I like to do more paleo for myself as I feel the best on that. Who knows, my thoughts on diet are constantly evolving, so it is hard to say.
post #46 of 55
I just made a beef stew with beef, carrots, mushrooms, green beans, onions and parsnips. Very good. I don't miss the potatoes too much as long as I have parsnips or cauliflower. I do find in my chicken soup that pureeing steamed cauliflower totally makes it more satisfying for me.

I love cauliflower subbed out for mashed "potato" and blend it with pine nuts for "rice." I also do occasionally do yams even when I'm "on track."

I find my kids do great on this diet even when we are doing it grain free with fruit as the main source of carbs. They have never really shown any cravings either way. However when I do offer rice (which is still not often) they do love it. I wouldn't cal it a craving though as they don't eat it to the exclusion of their dinner. My daughter though has an odd habit of loading her rice with broccoli and saurkraut. She's an odd duck though!
post #47 of 55
Okay, so perhaps the love of rice isn't a craving. Dd1 especially goes for the meat first & will have seconds - same with the fat - mainly raw butter on everything. Dd2 rotates her preferences & Ds *always* goes for the fermented veggies first, meat second, carbs last (or sometimes not at all.)
post #48 of 55
Sounds like they are pretty darned balanced, mama. And since the rice is so nutrient dense (because of how you make it) I can totally see why you wouldn't want to cut it.
post #49 of 55
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
I don't miss the potatoes too much as long as I have parsnips or cauliflower. I do find in my chicken soup that pureeing steamed cauliflower totally makes it more satisfying for me.
Mmmm--I made a thick chicken stew out of leftover chicken soup (made a roux (sp?) out of coconut flour and some of the broth to thicken it--yum! I made mashed cauliflower and brocolli w/ coconut milk (mashed potatoes style) and poured the stew over it--sooooo yummy!

post #50 of 55
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Sounds like they are pretty darned balanced, mama. And since the rice is so nutrient dense (because of how you make it) I can totally see why you wouldn't want to cut it.
This is a tough one for me--rice is the major source of bone broth my ds will eat...any good paleo/grain free ideas (besides soups and drinking it up!) for getting bone broth into kids? I use it to make BBQ sauce as well...just would love more ideas...
post #51 of 55
I'm finally ready to join this thread!!!

Today is my one month anniversary of being primal. I follow www.marksdailyapple.com

I have completely cut grains out of my life because they were making me so sick.

We still consume some dairy, but only full fat versions, and much less than we used to.

Tubers have a very small part in our diets, but we've been experimenting with lower carb tubers like turnip and celeriac.

I just feel so much better eating like this and feeding my family this way.
post #52 of 55
We don't hardly eat parsnips, I really need to use those more in our diet.
post #53 of 55
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Sounds like they are pretty darned balanced, mama. And since the rice is so nutrient dense (because of how you make it) I can totally see why you wouldn't want to cut it.
Yea, that's what I struggle with. Between the bone broth & the iodine in the kombu/kelp - it's full of minerals. Add on the GOBS of raw butter on top & it feels really healthy! (Not that we don't gob butter onto *everything*..)
But even I seem to be fine most of the time with my rice cooked this way.
I can't eat plain white rice out or I get heart palps, sweats & dizziness, but I've only once had this feeling (mildly) from my rice.

This is where I'm unsure. I TOTALLY agree with the idea of Paleo eating. I think eating like a diabetic (how a diabetic *should* eat, not how the ADA recommends ) is the healthiest diet for humans. But what about listening to how your body feels? And rice is REALLY carby...

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Today is my one month anniversary of being primal. I follow www.marksdailyapple.com
I am IN LOVE with this blog!! Thanks for sharing! And congratulations!!
post #54 of 55
uh oh... have a chocolate raspberry cake baking in my dads oven right now (we are staying at his house). it's definitely not paleo or TF!! must.resist.eating.the.chocolate.raspberryness.

what are your favorite sweet treats? i had been doing a lot of nut flour baking, but have cut back on that in the last few months. right now i am working on an almond milk egg custard, similar to english custard, to go with blackberries. nomm nom nom.
post #55 of 55

checking in..

hi ladies! well I haven't really been on the forums for a couple months, all the holiday busyness and having relatives in... you know how it goes!

I made through the holidays okay, though I drank too much alcohol, and indulged a bit on some carbage, I am back on track now. how is everyone else doing?
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