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post #121 of 161
I love skulls so I'd be just find with them on clothing for my DD. Why not? My mom used to freak at me for wearing skull earrings to church...my response was "why? God designed them and I think they're cool"
post #122 of 161
Well i am a big goth, so yeah we do skulls : and yes i think they are cute.
post #123 of 161
Heh, I prefer to see skulls over that line of little girls' stuff under the "Bratz" label! Seriously, does the mini-streetwalker look make anyone besides clothing makers and pedophiles happy?

I like my skelanimals earrings, and grinning-fangy-skulls grandma kerchief! (Ok, I'm not normal.)

I almost wigged out when I saw a tiny child wearing a t-shirt with a big Kokopelli emblem.
-start sarcasm -
... yes, every 5 year old needs a sex/fertility god splashed on their chest!
- end sarcasm -
post #124 of 161
We like skulls in our house, but it was more DS picking it himself it was not forced upon him. DD 3 had a skull fedora hat, she picked it out and loves it.
post #125 of 161
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Originally Posted by Kismet_fw View Post
I almost wigged out when I saw a tiny child wearing a t-shirt with a big Kokopelli emblem.
-start sarcasm -
... yes, every 5 year old needs a sex/fertility god splashed on their chest!
- end sarcasm -
What's wrong with that? Do you think it's going to do some damage to the child?
post #126 of 161
I don't think they are cute, or horrible. However, I do'nt really care for it, and not really for a toddler in my opinion. On Halloween I think its ok, but regular clothes is a bit much. If Hunter really wanted a skull clothing when he was older, then probably would buy him it, maybe.
post #127 of 161
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Originally Posted by Kismet_fw View Post
I almost wigged out when I saw a tiny child wearing a t-shirt with a big Kokopelli emblem.
-start sarcasm -
... yes, every 5 year old needs a sex/fertility god splashed on their chest!
- end sarcasm -
OT but I thought Kokopelli was a god of mischeiviousness and celebration? Never heard of Kokopelli as fertility-related!

ETA: well look at that, I googled him and sure enough, fertility deity! He is also a "Prankster and god of music", so I was right too, but apparently primarily he's a fertility figure, which I never knew. My new fact of the day...
post #128 of 161
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I almost wigged out when I saw a tiny child wearing a t-shirt with a big Kokopelli emblem.
-start sarcasm -
... yes, every 5 year old needs a sex/fertility god splashed on their chest!
- end sarcasm -
To be perfectly honest, I had no idea what the whole Kokopelli thing was about. I think I started seeing them on kitchy home "decorating" items about ten years ago and never gave them anymore thought. I assumed they were just a certain style of drawing. No doubt I'm not the only one. I mean, for goodness sake, you see them on shower curtains and welcome mats.

Am I the only one who didn't know this?

ETA - my daughter has clothes with skulls (like pink shirts with green skulls, a tee shirt from Rosemary Beach, etc.) and so do I (vans!). I don't give it a lot of thoughts. I think the origins are mixed and questionable enough that it's not like wearing an overtly over the top offensive symbol.
post #129 of 161
I like the kid stuff with skulls on it. Of course, I like stuff for myself with skulls on it so that is just a reflection of my taste. The kids would love to wear clothing with cartoon characters but I don't like the look. I can understand wanting to wear patterned clothing as opposed to always the plain look (what I went with for years with the boys as it seemed the only option to logo or cartoon clothing) so I buy stuff with dinosaurs, skulls, etc. when I can.
post #130 of 161
My dh is currently embroidering a sugar skull on a onesie for our yet to be born child!
We have a lot of calavera themed art and craft around the house, its part of dh's heritage and something that I've always found beautiful.
Death is just a part of life right?
Plus dh and I met on Dia de los Muertos!
And the whole pirate/skull thing has been in for awhile now. My friend's daughter has been rocking that look since last fall. It seems pretty mainstream to me.
post #131 of 161
I wouldn't mind if my older child wanted these clothes, but I wouldn't buy them for my younger child. I guess I just don't get it. What is the meaning? Why do people like them? Is it something about bones looking neat? Is it, I dunno, about accepting death? Is it just that pirates are cool right now? (I don't really get that either. What's cool about robbing and killing people?)
post #132 of 161
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Originally Posted by LROM View Post
OT but I thought Kokopelli was a god of mischeiviousness and celebration? Never heard of Kokopelli as fertility-related!

ETA: well look at that, I googled him and sure enough, fertility deity! He is also a "Prankster and god of music", so I was right too, but apparently primarily he's a fertility figure, which I never knew. My new fact of the day...
Yeah - I had no idea. I'd also only heard of him as prankster go and god of music.

I first started seeing Kokopelli stuff in a Coldwater Creek catalogue in...oh, early 90s, I guess...might even have been when I was pregnant with ds1. It was a long time ago, for sure. I used to see the catalogues at work, and I left that job 11 years ago.
post #133 of 161
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Originally Posted by NiteNicole View Post
To be perfectly honest, I had no idea what the whole Kokopelli thing was about. I think I started seeing them on kitchy home "decorating" items about ten years ago and never gave them anymore thought. I assumed they were just a certain style of drawing. No doubt I'm not the only one. I mean, for goodness sake, you see them on shower curtains and welcome mats.
I don't understand what is supposed to be bad about fertility.
post #134 of 161
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Originally Posted by shinaabikwe View Post
My dh is currently embroidering a sugar skull on a onesie for our yet to be born child!
We have a lot of calavera themed art and craft around the house, its part of dh's heritage and something that I've always found beautiful.
Death is just a part of life right?
Plus dh and I met on Dia de los Muertos!
And the whole pirate/skull thing has been in for awhile now. My friend's daughter has been rocking that look since last fall. It seems pretty mainstream to me.
Seriously I want one so much!!!!!!!!!!! I have a sugar skull burp cloth and bibs, I would love a onesie for Olvera Street and every day!
post #135 of 161
I have zilch problemos with skulls, crossbones, blood, etc.
In fact, I just found the most awesome black hoodie jacket that zips up the front and over the head to look like a skeleton.

But this is coming from a momma that takes her 5 YO (and ever since he was born) on cemetary romps.
Why not visit them when someone went to all that trouble to make a headstone so they'd be remembered??

IMO, death is a time for celebrating the life that was lived not the ending it seems to leave. So, the skull, bones, blood are all just "getting back to basics"...so to speak. Lol.

And, the swastika was once a very differently interpreted symbol. Granted the vile version of it has been widely accepted, but even it has a very different meaning depending on what you believe. Sorry, OT.
post #136 of 161
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Originally Posted by choli View Post
I don't understand what is supposed to be bad about fertility.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I'm guessing the other poster just found the sexual ties to be inappropriate for a child - like putting a phallic symbol on a onesie. I don't see it that way, but that's how I interpreted it.
post #137 of 161
Thread Starter 
I have Kokopelli on my door mat. Bring on the fertility
post #138 of 161
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I wouldn't mind if my older child wanted these clothes, but I wouldn't buy them for my younger child. I guess I just don't get it. What is the meaning? Why do people like them? Is it something about bones looking neat? Is it, I dunno, about accepting death? Is it just that pirates are cool right now? (I don't really get that either. What's cool about robbing and killing people?)
I commented earlier, but I think we can see from both this thread and our individual experiences outside of MDC that images and symbols mean a wide variety of things to different people. For many, certain images mean nothing...for others, certain images evoke a strong connection to something else. When I wear plaid (or tartan type fabric), I don't make any connection to the history of tartan or identify myself a supporter of Scottish principles. To me, it is just fashion. I imagine that I'm not alone in that position. I can't speak for the Scots, however. Ha, ha.

When I was in high school, I remember wearing a red and black outfit to school one time, and a classmate told me (very seriously, in fact) that those were the colors of Satan. Sorry, but that didn't cross my mind when I got dressed that morning! Everyone is going to interpret what you wear differently, unless of course, you provide them with a treatise on why you are wearing said item.

I think that the fashion industry spends a lot of time and money deciding what we want and then convincing us that we actually want it. By the time certain things get to the rack, many purchasers just buy on the assumption that this must be what is "in" or "cool." (between: not talking about the many eclectic people who have posted on this thread). For some people it is mere fashion, for others it is a statement. And, I don't think pirates have a trademark on the skull thing. I just think that it is an image most commonly associated with pirates, because our culture has been saturated with pirate movies.
post #139 of 161
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Originally Posted by Kismet_fw View Post
I almost wigged out when I saw a tiny child wearing a t-shirt with a big Kokopelli emblem.
-start sarcasm -
... yes, every 5 year old needs a sex/fertility god splashed on their chest!
- end sarcasm -
That kind of reminds me of an ad a few years ago where (if I remember it right) they were talking about how a car could be the ultimate symbol of a man's virility - and right when you expected to see some kind of Ferrari-type thing, they showed a minivan with all these kids. AHAHA.

In other words, I don't see why a kid couldn't have a fertility symbol - or be one.

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Originally Posted by loraxc View Post
I wouldn't mind if my older child wanted these clothes, but I wouldn't buy them for my younger child. I guess I just don't get it. What is the meaning? Why do people like them? Is it something about bones looking neat? Is it, I dunno, about accepting death? Is it just that pirates are cool right now? (I don't really get that either. What's cool about robbing and killing people?)
I guess my best response might come out of a reaction I had to this thread myself although this is not intended to insult the poster - one of the comments up thread was something about wanting to see kids in happier things, like rainbows.

For me, I get so tired of the sugary-sweet kids' stuff. I just do. While I agree that children are innocent, I don't see why that has to mean pastels or primaries and sparklies and happy-happy-happy ALL the time. I'm not morally opposed to it or anything; it's just not really me and so when I went to choose clothes for my pre-verbal kid, I tended to choose clothes I liked, and some of those had skulls or were sort of biker-y.
post #140 of 161
I don't mind if my kids have skulls on their clothes because it is a nice change from the run of the mill pink, floral, gumdrops and unicorns crap that is out there. Relatives can buy my kids those things, leave the weird to me.
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