Legality of forced adult flu vaccinations - Page 2

[Deefodil]

Originally Posted by kimmypoo

At the hospital I work for, signing the declination is no big deal. You just go to employee health and sign the form, no questions asked. Last year, I "forgot" to sign one and no one said anything to me about it.

I do know of a hospital that sent an email telling the employees that if they don't get the shot, then it's considered a "voluntary resignation."

I guess different places have different requirements.

That is what we used to have to do, as recently as last year, when the hospital was aiming for 100% compliance - but this year it's MANDATORY. you didn't need an exemption last year, you just had to sign a paper declining the shot.

[prescottchels]

Just a random thought to toss out...
If you need a clergy member to sign your form and you're not a regular church going person you can get a willing friend or family member to sign up online FREE to be a legally ordained minister at any # of non-denominational churches and it's usually instantaneous

[traycanadian]

Originally Posted by AbundantLife

Thanks, all.

In a perfect world, I would be able to express my reasons for not wanting this vaccine and not have to lie about it.

No, not in a perfect world. In America. In America, you should be able to do just that. I just can't believe that Americans are so willing to lay down and have these liberties stripped from them. Even if a person believes in this vaccine, they can surely recognize that taking away a citizen's choice in the matter is just plain unacceptable in this country. If people don't start standing up for their rights, there will be nothing left.

[13Sandals]

[QUOTE=kimmypoo;14446219]At the hospital I work for, signing the declination is no big deal. You just go to employee health and sign the form, no questions asked. Last year, I "forgot" to sign one and no one said anything to me about it.

I do know of a hospital that sent an email telling the employees that if they don't get the shot, then it's considered a "voluntary resignation."

I guess different places have different requirements.[/QUOTE]

different hospitals can have whatever policy they want and threaten and bully as much as they want - but in the end they have to be in line with state health laws (allowing exemptions in their state)

In NY, the health commissioner has bypassed the existing health laws by declaring a state of emergency. Under the 'emergency' he has sweeping powers and not even the legislature gets to be involved. He started with healthcare workers because the WHO and the CDC are saying they are the first priority group. He already tried in 2008 to get a bill (Assembly bill 10942) passed that would make it illegal for any NY child NOT to follow the CDC recommended schedule, not just for school either - all infants and toddlers and kids up to 18. If anyone thinks this guy is going to stop at healthcare workers - they aren't paying attention.

Let's hope the rally turnout tomorrow has some effect. What's going on in NY effects us all!

[momto1QT]

Ok, I am freaking out now because I just got an e-mail from my supervisor stating that both regular flu shots and the H1N1 flu shots are now mandatory at the hospital that I am a per diem employee at. It has a brief sentence about religious exemptions but I'm confused....I've written religious exemption letters for my children's schools, would it be the same for me?
This makes me so angry I can't believe I'm being "forced" to have 2 flu shots. I wonder if there would be any other ramifications for objecting on religious grounds??

[Noelle C.]

Originally Posted by AbundantLife

Thanks, all.

In a perfect world, I would be able to express my reasons for not wanting this vaccine and not have to lie about it.

This sucks. Fine, have people sign a waiver that the hospital isn't responsible if the worker gets sick, but leave it at that instead of medical or religious grounds.

[Sileree]

Originally Posted by 13Sandals

In NY, the health commissioner has bypassed the existing health laws by declaring a state of emergency. Under the 'emergency' he has sweeping powers and not even the legislature gets to be involved. He started with healthcare workers because the WHO and the CDC are saying they are the first priority group. He already tried in 2008 to get a bill (Assembly bill 10942) passed that would make it illegal for any NY child NOT to follow the CDC recommended schedule, not just for school either - all infants and toddlers and kids up to 18. If anyone thinks this guy is going to stop at healthcare workers - they aren't paying attention.

That is pretty darn scary!

I worry that this will happen in all states and once I am out of nursing school I won't be able to get a job because I am just not willing to get a flu shot.

Does anyone know WHY this guy is so pushy with vaccines? Is he in league with big pharma or something? What's in it for him??