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Kicking, lying, "I'm the best"

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
How would you guys handle a kid, age 7, who does the

1. "I'm the best" "I'm rare" or "I'm famous" gig all the time, together with "I like my house/toy/pet better than my friend's house/toy/pet" (luckily always said to me, not to the friend)

together with

2. It's always someone else's fault. I've heard the "you tripped me!" line a lot.

plus

3. Uncaring about all peers (her BFF is older - it's the one friendship that works*). Classmates say "hi," soccer teammates say "wow, that was great" and my kid ignores them completely until I coach her in the return "hello." My kid seems very happy, just doesn't seem to care about peer opinions AT ALL. In fact prefers to dress differently, speak of herself as different. Frankly my kid prefers her cat's or insects' company. *She loves her BFF, sees her every day at after-school daycare, but for unknown reasons BFF's mom won't permit playdates. BFF is the one person she adores, but BFF is developmentally disabled and frankly, my kid is the definite leader there, no disagreements from BFF. So basically my kid likes friends who won't talk back to her.

together with

4. Ocassional (every few months) striking out physically, punching or kicking someone at school or team she feels insulted her.

plus

5. Lying when she's caught at #4 - it's always an accident, or "someone pushed me."

Kid can sit appropriately at school, and interactions with me & grownups are fine - she's invariably described as "so sweet, and very very smart."

Happy home life, no siblings. Plenty of peer time at daycare and school, although playdates are now rare (frankly, other kids don't want to play with her; the playdates that do occur end in verbal altercations and blaming.) Has plenty of coaching and modelling from me. School counselor observed and met with her a few times last year but by the time the public-school bureaucracy wheels turned, it was end of year and they basically said a new year would fix things. Nope.

I always GD, with empathy talks (and writing apology letters) and loss of privileges for big items. She has a regular Feelings Journal and is encouraged to express her emotions, happy or mad, and talk out behavior. I cannot afford private counseling. I work FT and can't home or private school (or even observe in school more than 1x or 2x a year.) Maybe not related, she's bored out of her mind at school and is likely gifted (testing not done yet).

Basically I've seen her social pool narrow ridiculously, and I'm afraid she's going to have no friends at all very soon. If she weren't so delightful, happy and grateful (she just said the sunset was "heavenly" and was glad to see it) I'd worry she had a personality disorder, but it's like she KNOWS how to act with others, she just doesn't usually WANT to. I'm stymied on why she's doing this, and what to do differently. WWYD?
post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 
anyone?
post #3 of 9
I can't give you too much advice because I just don't know (sorry) but I would say that being "bored out of her mind" at school probably IS related to at least some of this. How about starting up with the school counselor again this year? There's plenty of time now for them to dig a little deeper into this and come up with some strategies.
post #4 of 9
Before I got to the end of your post I was wondering if your dd was gifted. I know that sometimes intellectually gifted kids have a hard time getting along with their peers. You mentioned that she sees herself as different, probably because she is different.

Is there a chance of getting her tested for gifted services at school, like a pull out program? Would her teacher consider providing enrichment for her in addition to or instead of her regular classwork?

Just a few thoughts!
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure how closely tied the being-bored-at-school is to her issues. For instance, Saturday (a non-school day) she kicked a soccer opponent (repeatedly and intenyionally). She loves soccer, is good at it, and it was during the game - so she wasn't bored.

Yes, I've requested the school counselor (and also the psychologist - school has both) intervene. I suppose they are well-intentioned but they move at a glacial pace - it's frustrating.
post #6 of 9
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Before I got to the end of your post I was wondering if your dd was gifted. I know that sometimes intellectually gifted kids have a hard time getting along with their peers. You mentioned that she sees herself as different, probably because she is different.

Is there a chance of getting her tested for gifted services at school, like a pull out program? Would her teacher consider providing enrichment for her in addition to or instead of her regular classwork?

Just a few thoughts!
Thank you. Yes, I've wondered if that's an explanation (not an excuse, but a reason) for her social misfirings.

I've signed her up for the giftedness testing, which happens next month. I won't get the results until January. Depending on the level of giftedness, she might qualify either for an enriched/pull-out curriculum, or an all-gifted class. Bother are in different schools than her current one. I've tried to suggest, even last year, that giftedness might be a possibility, to encourage the teachers to do more with her even before we get the test results. No dice though. I'm worried that even if she is diagnosed as gifted, that the social patterns will be well-entrenched by then. Gah.

Of course I do enrichment at home (she has strong interest and skills in science, especially) but there's only so much I can do to improve her social skills/caring, you know?
post #7 of 9
Have you considered a psych eval? We'd all love to think our kids quirkiness is because there gifted but more often then not its something else, either way a psych consult would be a good idea. fwiw, google "grandiosity in kids" (thats your #1) and its quite possible to have even serious mental health/personality disorders and still know how to act around others. 2 dx's jump out at me from reading your post but I'll leave that to the psych's, especially since I only have the info you've given.
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anyone?
Sorry, I'm at a loss.
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
I PM'd you, Satori.
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