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post #21 of 67
My baby passed her carseat test in a regular infant seat, Graco Safeseat, which is rated from 5lb, and she did fit in it as it is supposed to, straps at or below her shoulders. We did switch her to the Chicco Keyfit though, which is rated from 4lb, since it had a preemie insert. She fit much snugger in the preemie insert, it prevented her from flopping over and compromising her airway, which was a big concern since she was preemie.

The true fit is rated from 5lb to 65 lb, however, unlike the britax seats, it has low enough straps to fit a newborn, especially when you add in their included infant insert.
post #22 of 67
oh and the only time that a low birth weight apparatus is needed, which I am assuming that you are meaning a carbed, is when an infant is release from nicu under 5lb (4lb if you have a keyfit or there is another that is approved for preemies as well, at 4lb) or if the airway is not able to be maintained in an upright position. Carbeds are rarely needed though, since most babies who are not able to pass the carseat test are not released from hospital anyway, similar for babies under 4lbs.
post #23 of 67
I dont think it is too early to make that purchase We got our truefit when they were on sale the other day! Only 8.5-9 weeks to go here till the "duedate" so it is getting close! EXCITING!
post #24 of 67
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post #25 of 67
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Originally Posted by mommy2maya View Post
they may claim, but under their rules, and rules for rear facing, a 5lb baby would never fit in it. My baby, who was born at 5lb, STILL at 17 months isn't big enough to fit in it, with the straps at or below her shoulders.
Yes, lots of seats claim they are able to be used from newborn up. But only the Radian, Triumph Advance and one other seat, I believe - the True Fit, maybe? - actually technically fit a newborn (Lowest harness slot at or below shoulders).

The other convertibles have lowest harness slots that are just *too* high.
post #26 of 67
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Originally Posted by Carolinamidwife View Post
So the specs for the Roundabout that claim 5 lbs are false?
They aren't "false". The Roundabout and Marathon/cousins have been tested down to 5 pounds. That is no guarantee that a 5-pound baby will fit in the seat, just a statement that the seat has been tested down to that weight. The Roundabout has been tested to 40 pounds and the Marathon/cousins have been tested to 65 pounds. That is no guarantee that children of those weights will fit in the seats, just a statement that the seat has been tested to those weights.

5 pounds and 40/65 pounds are the outside limits of the seat. Practically, no 5-pound child will fit in a Britax convertible (the manuals all state that if the top strap slots are above the child's shoulders rear-facing, a different seat should be used), and very VERY few 40-pound children will fit in a Roundabout (straps above shoulders forward-facing) or 65-pound children in a Marathon/cousin.
post #27 of 67
The Roundabout, though rated from 5 lbs, simply does not fit newborns safely. The bottom harness position is too high up (10") (Incidentally, this is true of all Britax convertibles, all Recaro convertibles, and many Dorel convertibles).

Also, it's highly unlikely that a five year old fits safely in a Roundabout. The seat is outgrown when A) the child reaches 40 pounds B) the tops of the ears meet the top of the seat or C) WHEN THE SHOULDERS GO OVER THE TOP HARNESS POSITION.

The only five year old who would fit in a Roundabout by height is one who is off-the-growth-charts tiny. Not to say those kids aren't out there, but they're extremely rare.

Just because the seat is cheaper than it is usually sold for, does NOT make it a good deal. It's outgrown rear facing too soon (putting children at serious risk of injury in an accident) and outgrown forward facing too early for a booster.

This means that parents will have to buy one or even two more car seats in addition to the Roundabout to get to safe boostering age.
post #28 of 67
That is a decent deal, I bought a Roundabout for my 2 yo old recently to replace the Marathon that is about to expire. It is a small seat, and won't fit him for very long. BUT, it's a spare seat in DH car, and Amazon had it on sale for $109 when I bought it. Otherwise, I would have went for something else. I don't regret it, though, b/c I am hoping for another baby - so the roundabout can be used after the infant seat before a higher harnessing one. My kids are tall, though, so I would be shocked if it lasted past age 3 FF.

Mainly I just wanted to agree with everyone who said the Roundabout cannot be used for newborns. So, it's great that you found a good deal, but it will have to be used after an infant seat or a more appropriate convertible like the True Fit.
post #29 of 67
for anyone looking for an even better deal on seats at diapers.com, use the code 10PERCENT (brings the cost of a roundabout down to $137 and change)

just my .02, i tried my newborn in our true fit premier at birth (she was 6lbs4oz) and she was nowhere near the bottom harness slots- so it would not have been an appropriate seat from birth for her. torso height really seems to be the determining factor in whether a convertible seat will work for a newborn- not weight.

eta- my kids fit in the roundabout ff till 3, but they are very short and don't weigh anything at all there are several other convertibles that will give you much more bang for your buck, with great features, but i do have a soft spot in my heart for the roundabout- i loved that seat for dd#1
post #30 of 67
Just my 2 cents worth because I'm getting really erked about people saying that the RA cannot be used for a newborn. I brought my 4kg, 54 cm ds home from the hospital in this seat. He and the seat were inspected at the hospital by a CPST. Sure, if he was the same size as my nieces, who looked tiny in their infant carriers, it probably wouldn't have worked, but it fitted him. We've just replaced his seat with a european certified one as we're not in the US anymore, but we had 3 years with this seat, so it was a good deal for us.
post #31 of 67
Sorry, but it's true. It takes a HUGE torso on a newborn to fit into a Roundabout/Marathon/Blvd. I have some very long-torsoed kids and they didn't fit until at least 2 months--DS is 2.5 months, almost even with the 2nd slots on the TrueFit, and still way below the bottom slots on the Marathon.

OP, the Roundabout is a fabulous seat, and that's a good deal, as long as you know that you'll need an infant seat first, and you'll need another seat after it's outgrown. I had a Roundabout for DD2, that she outgrew RF'ing before she was able to FF in it (18 months & 18 lbs) but we loved it and we bought it knowing it would be outgrown sooner rather than later, so we weren't shocked when we had to replace it
post #32 of 67
Were your son's shoulders above the strap slots? If not, he did not actually fit, and the CPST who said he did wasn't very good.
post #33 of 67
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I brought my 4kg, 54 cm ds home from the hospital in this seat. He and the seat were inspected at the hospital by a CPST.
If his shoulders were at all below the harness slots, the CPST should not have told you that it was appropriate. I think lots of people have used Britax convetibles from birth, thinking that if their baby was over 5lbs, that they were safe. Pretty common misconception, seems like.
post #34 of 67
Yet another CPST to confirm that indeed the Roundabout fitting a newborn properly would be just short of miraculous. That 10" bottom slot is nearly insurmountable for a newborn. A 10"+ torso on a newborn? They are normally only about 20" long total!

I had a 10lb, 2oz newborn who was 22"+. Even he would not have come anywhere near having that bottom slot below his shoulders. I have yet to meet a newborn who would fit properly in one.

Maybe this guy could do it? But OP, I hope for your sake that your baby doesn't look like him!
post #35 of 67
Crongrats on that deal ! While it is true that the Roundabout is not the only seat your child will ever need, I think it's a great seat and couldn't be happier with ours. It's so easy to install and use, and both of my kids seemed very comfortable in it. Also, when I bought it I needed a rather compact seat because my car at that time was very small and I am very tall, so leg room was an issue.

Personally, I hate those seats that are theoretically supposed to go from like birth to junior high . I like ones that are designed specifically for particular stages. IME, they seem to fit the car and the child better (not saying they are safer, just more user friendly ). My daughter went from her infant seat to the Roundabout and then to a Frontier at almost three and a half when I needed the Roundabout for my son. He is a big boy, so we will need another convertible seat for him at some point, but I've definitely gotten my money's worth out of the Roundabout.
post #36 of 67
Keep in mind the OP will not 'get her money's worth' out of the Roundabout. She is going to need to purchase an infant carrier to make up for the fact that the Roundabout is UNSAFE and can't be used for a newborn. Then, around 18 months, she will need to purchase a larger convertible to continue rear facing her child.

Meanwhile, because she bought the Roundabout so early, she is losing life off the expiration date while it can't even be used, making any resale value she hopes to get out of it minimal.

For the exact same money she spent on the Roundabout, she could have bought the Graco Snugride 32/35, which CAN be used from birth, and will last a nearly identical amount of time rear facing.

Any child who fits in the Roundabout forward facing SHOULD be rear facing, so as a forward facing seat it's essentially useless.
post #37 of 67
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Originally Posted by Maedze View Post

Also, it's highly unlikely that a five year old fits safely in a Roundabout. The seat is outgrown when A) the child reaches 40 pounds B) the tops of the ears meet the top of the seat or C) WHEN THE SHOULDERS GO OVER THE TOP HARNESS POSITION.

The only five year old who would fit in a Roundabout by height is one who is off-the-growth-charts tiny. Not to say those kids aren't out there, but they're extremely rare.

Just because the seat is cheaper than it is usually sold for, does NOT make it a good deal. It's outgrown rear facing too soon (putting children at serious risk of injury in an accident) and outgrown forward facing too early for a booster.

This means that parents will have to buy one or even two more car seats in addition to the Roundabout to get to safe boostering age.
Ha, well, that would be my 5 year old then. She's in the 12th percentile, FTR. She outgrew her RA a while ago but not at 18 months or whatever.

But, also, the Britax is still a safely rated carseat and instead of tearing people new ones for doing what they think is best maybe we could be a teeny bit supportive; just throwing that out there.
post #38 of 67
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Originally Posted by Maedze View Post
Keep in mind the OP will not 'get her money's worth' out of the Roundabout. She is going to need to purchase an infant carrier to make up for the fact that the Roundabout is UNSAFE and can't be used for a newborn. Then, around 18 months, she will need to purchase a larger convertible to continue rear facing her child.

Meanwhile, because she bought the Roundabout so early, she is losing life off the expiration date while it can't even be used, making any resale value she hopes to get out of it minimal.

For the exact same money she spent on the Roundabout, she could have bought the Graco Snugride 32/35, which CAN be used from birth, and will last a nearly identical amount of time rear facing.

Any child who fits in the Roundabout forward facing SHOULD be rear facing, so as a forward facing seat it's essentially useless.
Really? Why can't the RA rear face with an 18 month old?

Hey, OP, I have an idea... how about you make the decisions you feel are best for your family... would that work for you? Since you were clearly not asking for advice I'm thinking you have probably checked out of this thread already anyway... not that getting attacked isn't super helpful.
post #39 of 67
Some 18mo children have outgrown the Roundabout by height rear-facing.

Of course the OP should make the decisions that are best for her. If she is aware of the limitations of this seat -- it can't be safely used with newborns and often not with preschoolers, and it doesn't support best practices like extended rear-facing -- and she still thinks it's best for her family, then that's her decision.
post #40 of 67
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Originally Posted by Carolinamidwife View Post
Really? Why can't the RA rear face with an 18 month old?

Hey, OP, I have an idea... how about you make the decisions you feel are best for your family... would that work for you? Since you were clearly not asking for advice I'm thinking you have probably checked out of this thread already anyway... not that getting attacked isn't super helpful.


Because it's too short. The parent is either left, at roughly 18 months, with either (extremely dangerously and against all advice based on numerous research studies) turning a baby forward facing and putting his life at significant risk, or purchasing a more appropriate convertible to keep the baby rear facing.

Just because facts are being stated does not mean 'judgement' is involved. Judgement involves a moral component, and this is based on physics. Just because you were unaware of the facts does not mean that people were judging you. You've been informed. It's your decision to get angry at the people informing you to make yourself feel better, or to learn something new, of course.
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