Originally Posted by BarefootScientist
Isn't starting without a condom pretty much withdrawal + condom put together? So I guess it would have the higher failure rate of the two. I don't know...
I guess it would depend on when you put the condom on. If you put the condom on halfway through but it's still a while before the guy ejaculates, I'd say that's condom use. I don't really know what constitutes user failure with condoms. Is it putting the thing on wrong or having it slip off? Oh, I think I read that condoms can leak if the guy lingers long enough to start to lose his erection so that the condom becomes loose. Since there's no live sperm in pre-ejaculate, it wouldn't matter if you waited until later to get the condom on as long as you got it on before full ejaculation, right?
If you didn't put the condom on until right before the guy ejaculated, I guess you could consider that withdrawal. But, then, what would be the point of using the condom? I'd think it would all be over by the time you got the thing on.
Did I mention that on top of the pimples I started having cramps 3-4 days ago? I haven't even Oed yet! No wonder we had such trouble getting pg before I started charting. I'd refuse to dtd once I started getting cramps because it hurt so much afterward. Well, if I was getting cramps a few days before O that continued, we probably never dtd at the right time.