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First ever vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study

post #1 of 48
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http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/09/b...g-vaccine.html
post #2 of 48
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"In the first safety study of its kind of the hepatitis vaccine birth dose, the researchers showed that male macaques vaccinated at birth with a hepatitis B vaccine (HBV) took more than twice as long as unexposed macaques to acquire three standardized skills typically used to measure infant brain development."
post #3 of 48
This is so exciting. This is a very good sign. I didnt think I would see this study in my lifetime. I hope they keep them coming.
post #4 of 48
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It is exciting...the article says this is the first of a larger series of studies they are doing. This is what many of us have been waiting for...I still can't believe this is the first study of vacc. vs. unvacc. animals. This is groundbreaking, and I look forward to more!
post #5 of 48
I cant say I am shocked by the results either. How sad is it that we have to prove that injecting neurotoxins can cause delays. Thats like doing a study to prove rain is wet.
post #6 of 48
Wow, I get goose bumps reading about this. Could be just the tip of the iceburg that's finally going to be exposed. Wish I could read the whole study...
post #7 of 48
Niiiiiice! Not that there are effects that are harmful, but that this study was done. Let's hope this may help open the Pandora's Box against vaxes. Really! An STD vax for a NEWBORN?! Are they expecting people to be having sex with them? No? Then why the hell is the first vax for an STD?!
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An STD vax for a NEWBORN?! Are they expecting people to be having sex with them? No? Then why the hell is the first vax for an STD?!
It's because if the mom has the disease she can pass it to the baby--another way it can be transmitted.
post #9 of 48
Wow. I'll be looking forward to seeing results from the subsequent studies!
post #10 of 48
It's interesting too that they can't tell whether the delays were caused by thimerisol, or the vaccine itself, or even aluminum.
post #11 of 48
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http://www.thoughtfulhouse.org/pr/hep-b-study.pdf

Here's a link to the actual study until Neurotoxicology gets it up on their site.
post #12 of 48
Isn't the one disappointment about this study the emphasis on thermerisol? Forgive me if I read it wrong, but why couldn't they have tested the current supposed themerisol-free Hep B vax along side the previous version given with the unexposed groups?

It leaves people to say, "Oh, the mercury is gone, so we don't have to worry about this..."
post #13 of 48
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Isn't the one disappointment about this study the emphasis on thermerisol? Forgive me if I read it wrong, but why couldn't they have tested the current supposed themerisol-free Hep B vax along side the previous version given with the unexposed groups?

It leaves people to say, "Oh, the mercury is gone, so we don't have to worry about this..."
Yeah, I was disappointed, too. I wanna know what it is now...
post #14 of 48
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I'm relieved they included thimerisol in the vaccine. Study the shot that infants received until roughly 2003. Show the obvious neurological damage caused by that. Remember, the full mercury flu shot is given once a year, every year to infants/pregnant women/etc. and most of the others on the schedule still have varying trace amounts in them. Later/other studies can differentiate between mercury vs. non mercury. I think the way they did this was a great place to start.
post #15 of 48
I never understood why they have the Hep B shot to every baby born if the mother doesn't carry it. I denied the shot and they all thought it was strange. I thought it was more strange to give it to him.
post #16 of 48
? this is definitely not the first study that looks at monkeys, some vaccinated and some not. I believe Hornig, for example, did one-- though I don't think it has been published as of yet.

eta: Laura Hewiston also did one. That one was very poorly put together-- still not published.
post #17 of 48
Another reason newborns are given this vaccine is because it can be transmitted through blood transfusions. I know this because my ds needed two blood transfusions (at 2 days and at 2 months) and the hospital freaked that he hadn't been vaxed for it.
post #18 of 48
uhh... shouldn't they maybe be testing the BLOOD rather than shooting up all newborns?
post #19 of 48
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This is the very first study ever published using vacc. vs. unvacc. animals. That is why it's so groundbreaking, and the results are getting so much attention in the autism research world.

And the results beg the question (more research)...if these primates are so neurologically damaged by this one HepB shot, what is it doing to our infants?
post #20 of 48
This study is a great first step! Now they need to expand the study to include newborn monkeys getting the "thermiserol free" version of the vaccine and see how they respond. I also hope the continue this study past the first few weeks of life, and look at how this vaccine might affect the rest of childhood development. Then they need another study giving some monkeys the "full childhood vaccine schedule" and compare it to unvaxed monkeys, and watch all these monkeys a few years.

Then maybe another study showing the effects of delayed vax (as an alternative to both vaxing on schedule and no vaxes at all)- or am I just dreaming now? According to Wikipedia, rhesus macaque monkeys reach maturity at 3-4 years old, so it won't take a rediculously long amount of time to study the effects of infant vaccines on all of childhood development or look for effects that last into adulthood.
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