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Banned books! Can you believe Where's Waldo is one of the top 100?

post #1 of 24
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...oks_in_the_U.S.

This is ridiculous. Shell Silverstein is on there, the Goosebumps series, James and the Giant Peach, etc.. I am avidly against banning books based off of personal beliefs. This is nothing short of trying to force one's beliefs onto others, and that is the reasoning behind most of these books being banned.

What do you think of this?
post #2 of 24
I don't believe in banning books, if a series (like Harry Potter) can encourage children to read than I say that's brilliant

Reading is better for kids than sitting in front of the tv or playing video games.
post #3 of 24
Where's Waldo has a naked breast, with a nipple visible in profile. It's in the beach scene, and my kids get a kick out of it.

There aren't a whole lot of books I'd censor; I keep meaning to read all of them, but there are lots of books on deck before I get to the banned ones.
post #4 of 24
Whenever my teens really annoy me I bring out a banned book for them to read. Makes 'em think about something other than how they can annoy me
post #5 of 24
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Where's Waldo has a naked breast, with a nipple visible in profile. It's in the beach scene, and my kids get a kick out of it.
Bad, bad boobie. I've seen the picture. One boob in one book that wasn't even originally intended for an American audience, and the entire series is on the top 100 banned list. Eh, what do we expect in a country where years and years after Janet Jackson's boob was on TV, it's still in court. Obviously boobs are rare things that half the population doesn't really have.

I read more about the Where's Waldo ban, and it goes further than that too, into the realm of "maybe." "Maybe" there are hidden images or innuendo. MAYBE. So because something is a maybe, a possibility, which anything is...sheesh.

Goosebumps is also harmless. A lot of those books are on there for ridiculous reasons.
post #6 of 24
Blech. Just seeing this makes me seethe. There are so many books on that list that I just love. I just don't get it.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by LaLaLaLa View Post
Where's Waldo has a naked breast, with a nipple visible in profile. It's in the beach scene, and my kids get a kick out of it.

There aren't a whole lot of books I'd censor; I keep meaning to read all of them, but there are lots of books on deck before I get to the banned ones.


That is so cute
post #8 of 24
I wish the site would say why the particular books are banned and who is doing the banning.
2 of my favorite all time books are on the list, Bless me Ultima by Rudolfo Anaya and House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende.
Why on Earth?
And Where is Waldo banned? Ridiculous!
post #9 of 24
That wiki link is about most frequently challenged books, not banned books.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by aeiouys View Post
That wiki link is about most frequently challenged books, not banned books.
That

They are challenged but not always banned.

The list does make a good reading list. A lot of those books are really good.
post #11 of 24
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Where's Waldo has a naked breast, with a nipple visible in profile. It's in the beach scene, and my kids get a kick out of it.
You must have an old edition.
From what I've learned, the book was redrawn in 1997 in response to complaints from parents.
post #12 of 24
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You must have an old edition.
From what I've learned, the book was redrawn in 1997 in response to complaints from parents.
Well, shoot, that pisses me off. Now I wanna ban it.

Last week was banned books week, so at my daughter's elementary school library, she put out the banned books on display, and had written down why they were banned, I guess if kids had asked.

I've never been sure under what authority books were banned, but I assumed it was something from years ago, and people just talked about it as history. But the Banned Book Week site says this:
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Banned Books Week is the only national celebration of the freedom to read. It was launched in 1982 in response to a sudden surge in the number of challenges to books in schools, bookstores and libraries. More than a thousand books have been challenged since 1982. The challenges have occurred in every state and in hundreds of communities.
They have a map of challenges: http://bannedbooksweek.org/Mapofbookcensorship.html

It's funny, my state has no challenges. Maybe our libraries aren't all that objectionable. I will say that teachers and/or parents will let the librarian know what they think is OK. She had a few books back behind the counter on a shelf, because she wasn't sure if they were more for middle schoolers or older elementary kids. She had had a comment from a teacher about a few of them. I end up reading these books and giving my opinion. A lot of children's books are violent and feature children whose lives are in peril. But, honestly, in kids books that seems the norm rather than the exception, and that's not the problem people have. These books were no different, but the one had a mild scene that talked about teens having sex. Geez, if that's the only issue, what about the fact that they are starving and freezing?
post #13 of 24
Here is one from Oregon:
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Grants Pass, Oregon
Last Updated by Alita on Aug 7
(2009) Rita Crosby's Help the Forest was challenged when school officials removed the book due to concerns about the way the book portrays loggers. The original copies were replaced with revised versions. The Kids Right to Read Project publicized the issue in NCAC's blog.
But then:
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2008) John Gardner's Grendel was challenged at the Sherwood School District because of graphic scenes of sex, torture and mutilation. The school board ultimately voted to keep it in the curriculum. A letter from the Kids Right to Read Project that was sent to the Sherwood School District was published in the local paper.
post #14 of 24
is there a list somewhere that tells why they were challenged? ive read a lot of books on that list.... many of them i got from a school library, some of them i read for school
post #15 of 24
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The list does make a good reading list. A lot of those books are really good.

I second that!
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by jalilah View Post
I wish the site would say why the particular books are banned and who is doing the banning.
2 of my favorite all time books are on the list, Bless me Ultima by Rudolfo Anaya and House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende.
Why on Earth?
And Where is Waldo banned? Ridiculous!
I love those two books! I'm confused as to why they are banned too...

I have read a LOT of books on that list. Some of my favorite books are on that list. Quite a few of them I read for school in middle and high school! I'm glad my English teachers didn't pay attention to those lists- a lot of those books I think are classics.
post #17 of 24
You ever suspect publishers of paying to get books banned so they'll sell? Not necessarily any from that list, but a lot of people read things specifically because they're banned and some books that happen to be banned just aren't good reading and wouldn't be touched if they weren't banned.
post #18 of 24
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Whenever my teens really annoy me I bring out a banned book for them to read. Makes 'em think about something other than how they can annoy me
This is brilliant. Must remember that when my kids are older.
post #19 of 24
This was a really thought-provoking article:

Would You Ever Challenge a Book?
post #20 of 24
i found the list, and the scary stories series is nimber 1 (scary stories to tell in the dark and all the others). those were like the most popular books in elementary school, they were never in the library.
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