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Amazing documentary - I will never complain about obstetric care in the US again...

post #1 of 13
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If anyone is interested in maternal and child health issues in the developing world, I highly recommend the movie, A Walk to Beautiful, which chronicles the stories of five Ethiopian women with obstetric fistula and their efforts to get treatment and heal themselves. It's moving, heartbreaking, and beautiful.

The producers were at the screening I went to last night. They talked about what it's like for these women, who often live a 6 hour to 2 day walk from the nearest hospital (and who don't even own a pair of shoes), may have become pregnant at the age of 12 or 13, and have no access to obstetrical assistance if they need it. Our healthcare system has its problems, but one of the stats. in Ethiopia is that they have 59 obstetricians and 1000 midwives for a population of over 78 million people in a country the size of France, Spain, and Portugal combined, and most of them are in big cities. One of the efforts being made now is to train midwives who will live in more rural areas. Here is a link to the hospital and foundation that treats these women. The woman who runs the hospital, Catherine Hamlin, has been working in Ethiopia since 1959, and the producers said that she is still doing surgeries every day at the hospital. The estimate is that 200,000-300,000 women suffer from these fistula in Ethiopia, and 2-3 million worldwide. The hospital in the film can only treat about 1500 of them a year, they are generally lost to follow-up, and because these women's dystocia often happens because they are tiny and have tiny pelvises, stillbirth, prolonged labor, and risk of getting another fistula is high the next time they get pregnant.

Anyway, I was very moved by this film and am so grateful to have shoes, running water, access to healthcare, and a pretty darned good chance to have a healthy baby and a good birth outcome.
post #2 of 13
I was under the impression that the dystocia that happens in those countries was from female circuncision and all the scarring. The tiny pygmy women have little problems birthing average sized babies. I may be wrong. I am not sure what a fistula would be unless it is a complication of the circ. Kymberli
post #3 of 13
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I was under the impression that the dystocia that happens in those countries was from female circuncision and all the scarring. The tiny pygmy women have little problems birthing average sized babies. I may be wrong. I am not sure what a fistula would be unless it is a complication of the circ. Kymberli
It could be but it's often a result of a prolonged, obstructed labour. Take a look at this article from Doctors Without Borders.
post #4 of 13
I love that documentary!
post #5 of 13

Oprah

This was one of Oprah Winfrey's causes years ago. She did a show about a doctor who had devoted her career to helping these girls. I say girls, because in the show they blamed the most of the problems on the fact that the mothers were extremely young and their bodies too immature to be ready for childbirth.
post #6 of 13
I would imagine part of the problem with pelvis size is related to inadequate developement from poor nutrition too. Ethiopia has been ravaged by famine for years and years.
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I will never complain about obstetric care in the US again.
Really? I have seen the documentary and while I agree it is tragic, that doesn't mean just because we HAVE a system, we shouldn't complain when care is less than spectacular.
post #8 of 13
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warning, contains somewhat graphic description of fistula and its cause

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I was under the impression that the dystocia that happens in those countries was from female circuncision and all the scarring. The tiny pygmy women have little problems birthing average sized babies. I may be wrong. I am not sure what a fistula would be unless it is a complication of the circ. Kymberli
No, the women in this movie are Coptic Christians, so they aren't circumcised. Even for women who are circed, if the baby made it that far down the birth canal, they'd tear instead. The fistula is caused by the baby's head being pressed down onto their pelvic bones and soft tissue and having the blood supply to the tissues of the bladder and/or rectum cut off for hours or days, so the tissue dies and a hole forms that goes through to the vagina. It's not uncommon for these women to labor for a week, the baby dies, and their local 'doctor' removes it in pieces. It's really sad.

About their sizes, one of the doctors explains in the movie that these girls start carrying water jugs at age 2, by age 8, she says, "They can lift more than I can," and they suffer from chronic malnutrition. The end result of this is that their growth is stunted. She says, "I'm average height, 5'3", and look when I stand up..." and the fistula patient who she is standing next to barely comes to her shoulder. This extremely small stature, combined with a big problem with child brides and the kidnapping of young girls, means that they get pregnant before their bodies are anywhere near mature enough to handle a baby coming out of them. They aren't pygmies, just very small adolescents. From what the producers of the film said, they have TRUE cephalo-pelvic disproportion, and a c-section is really and truly the only way to get their babies out of them with the least amount of damage to their bodies. After fistula surgery, they carry cards with them explaining their situation for other healthcare providers, and they are told "when the baby starts walking (i.e. when your labor first begins), you start walking." If they don't get to a health clinic, they will have the same outcome again.
post #9 of 13
I have heard about this too and agree that it says more about their overall health and nutrition status than it does about their maternity care.

I will still complain about maternity care in America and about malnutrition and child welfare in other countries.
post #10 of 13
Love this documentary. As a mama who brought home a five year old Ethiopian daughter in May, I can attest to the fact that they work hard with very little to eat. She has biceps and shoulder muscles that are amazing, and yet she was the size of a 3 year old at age 5.
post #11 of 13
I agree the situation of these women is terrible - having no access to trained midwives/doctors when something goes wrong is a dangerous situation in any aspect of life, from riding your bike to eating food to childbearing.

But us having non-evidence based care that results (for many) in inappropriate care/too much care that costs much more than care in other developed countries does not help us or these women on the documentary. If we instituted evidence-based care in the USA, like most other developed countries have at least tried to do, in addition to lowering our mortality/morbidity/c-section/birth trauma rates, we would also save ALOT of money on maternity care. We could use that money to fund evidence-based care for women like these who currently have NO care. Or women in our own country who presently get no care.

So often in my life when I talk about the problems with US maternity care, people come back with "oh, I don't think women in the congo feel doctors are bad". Trying to make our system better (especially since there are many examples of how it easily could be better and cheaper, too...i.e., most every other developed country) is not the same as saying that you wish our system would go away completely so we would be in the position of the poorest people in the world. I HATE when I get that argument, because it suggests that any challenge to the dominant US system is some sort of nihilistic denial of the benefit of any part of modern medicine. And that is the total not what I see the maternity-reform movement as being about.
post #12 of 13
no kind of obstetric care I receive will lower my chances of developing a fistula-- I have Crohn's disease.

Women in the US often develop fistulas from episiotomy, as well.

Yes, that documentary is eye-opening and heart-breaking, but doesn't really have anything to do with the medical model of birth or obstetric practices in the US.
post #13 of 13
Well, I have no complaints with OB care. I guess I am lucky with all the stories I hear. I had an OB who believed in women and birth, was pro-natural birth, didn't do episiotomies unless needed which was rare and rarely did a c-section and would not do electives. Believed in VBACs and everything. I know he is not all OBs but there are some out there who have a good philospophy for birth, and not all Midwives are perfect either. I'm using a Midwife this time and feel lucky again. She believes in what I do, and I am confident that my homebirth is going to be great. I have heard many horror stories from women who has used OBs and Midwives. Everyone is different so its good to find someone who believes in what you do and you feel comfortable around. I know we don't have the best maternal care, and I hope that it gets better soon.
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