Normal reactions? - Page 2

[ammiga]

Originally Posted by carriebft

So I guess rotavirus, OPV, flumist, and the development of an inhaled measles vaccine are ok then, right?

Unless I'm mistaken, rotavirus and polio are not transmitted through inhalation, so that would still be surpassing mother nature and giving you a disease in a way it was not meant to be fought off.

The oral vaccines contain a ton of ingredients in addition to the virus, all of which I try to keep away from my body (and my daughter's body).

In a clip from an email I received from Dr. Tenpenny, she says this about why inhaled vaccines (FluMist in particular) are just as dangerous as jabs:

It will deliver direct dose to the brain (through the olfactory bulb) and the nasal mucosa. These tissues play a carefully coordinated role in regulating glandular, vascular and other processes. This is probably why some children have passed out and a 6-yo girl died from a dose of FluMist.

(sorry, I don't know how to quote from an outside source)

[carriebft]

You are mistaken; they are both oral vaccines.

[ammiga]

Originally Posted by carriebft

You are mistaken; they are both oral vaccines.

edited: nevermind... I was right about the disease spreading, but not the vaccines. I was a little confused. Since we haven't vaxed for those things, I thought they were inhaled. Now I get it

[Cristiaz]

Originally Posted by carriebft

Well, it's not bypassing the "frontline defenses" which is what the poster said was wrong with the injected vaccines.

Your right about that...but then the people who get these vaccines put others at risk and thats not cool at all. Also, these vaxes still have a ton of toxins that WILL pass through the mucous membranes which is soooo close to the brain. So vaccines, no matter where you put them, are harmful. Also, consider the over tax on the poor liver trying to get the toxins out...not good no matter what.

[carriebft]

I think it is also important to note that vaccines are not injected into the bloodstream- they either go into the muscle or subcutaneous space. I am not really sure how the "directly into the bloodstream" thing came about...

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1118997

The antigens in vaccines are taken by the lymph.

[Cristiaz]

Originally Posted by carriebft

I think it is also important to note that vaccines are not injected into the bloodstream- they either go into the muscle or subcutaneous space. I am not really sure how the "directly into the bloodstream" thing came about...

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1118997

The antigens in vaccines are taken by the lymph.

Your posts confuse me. Are you anti vaccine or pro?

Directly/indirectly...does it matter? They DO enter the bloodstream immediately so why would it matter? This is why I'm confused. Your first sentence is as if you are defending vaccines. Your second one is saying the toxins are taken in through the lymphatic system (which would be one of the many reasons for cancer being so prevalent now). So wouldn't that be an against statement???

[medusaatemydog]

Originally Posted by Scattershoot

I disagree. I don't see how one can not believe the reaction is related to the toxic ingredients injected into the baby's body. The description of events showed the symptoms began immediately and worsened as time passed. The argument that another illness must have just happened to occur and there is no correlation is a common tactic of the vaccine industry to deny damage. Once again correlation does not mean causation works for an industry that uses the same logic to defend their product.

There is nothing "normal" about white blood cells sludging up the bloodstream and preventing oxygen, arguably to most important aspect of human life, from doing it's job.

Anyone who has been around medicine that helps heal people and doesn't cause these types of long term side effects, knows that we do not have to accept these "normal" reactions to have a healthy life. We don't have to rationalize the maiming and killing of healthy children for some unproven benefit.

anyone who would say otherwise is either not aware of what is taking place or has a serious conflict of interest. I find it sad that there are unethical medical proffesionals who cannot accept the reality of it.. i guess one must defend thier interests .... i will defend my child... children should not have to continually be injected will so much bacterial viral chemical etc etc... a reaction after a vaccine is only the obvious damage taking place.. most people aren't lucky enough to see this and the chidren die moments after the jab...

[carriebft]

Originally Posted by Cristiaz

Your posts confuse me. Are you anti vaccine or pro?

Directly/indirectly...does it matter? They DO enter the bloodstream immediately so why would it matter? This is why I'm confused. Your first sentence is as if you are defending vaccines. Your second one is saying the toxins are taken in through the lymphatic system (which would be one of the many reasons for cancer being so prevalent now). So wouldn't that be an against statement???

I am neither pro or anti-- I am "pro the vaccines I do for my family" for my family. I am pro vaccine choice. I am pro facts and good information. I think everyone needs to make the choice for themselves but that it is important to correct misinformation on both sides.

They do not enter the blood stream. The lymph is not the blood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphatic_system

I think that might help clarify things.

I do not agree with your statement that the involvement of the lymph system would create cancer.

As far as asking "directly or indirectly, does it matter?"-- I thought that was YOUR point. You were arguing that the vaccine is bad because it directly enters the blood stream.

[Cavy]

Nice post, carriebft .

[Cristiaz]

Originally Posted by medusaatemydog

anyone who would say otherwise is either not aware of what is taking place or has a serious conflict of interest. I find it sad that there are unethical medical proffesionals who cannot accept the reality of it.. i guess one must defend thier interests .... i will defend my child... children should not have to continually be injected will so much bacterial viral chemical etc etc... a reaction after a vaccine is only the obvious damage taking place.. most people aren't lucky enough to see this and the chidren die moments after the jab...