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post #21 of 1146
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Must have been posted in another thread. Here it is:

http://www.heiressintraining.com/200...ughnut-recipe/

Did you remind DH that one does not get a medical alert bracelet for lactose intolerance?
It's not a medical alert bracelet... Well, it is but it's the red paper and plastic bracelet from the hospital. And I feel it's necessary to remind everyone that his allergy, though IgE, hasn't shown ana tendencies. However, I think that dh may have said it was an intolerance bc he doesn't listen to a word I say on the subject so I don't think he realizes that dairy is a true allergy not "just" an intolerance. And bc it's not a life threatening allergy, he seems to think it's no big deal. He'll still occasionally say "I'll deal with his behavior (from eating whatever), I want to go eat <whatever>." So, to him it's just how we eat so DS1's behavior is "better" and I can practically see the switch on his listening turn to "off" if I start trying to tell him how it effects him in other ways.
post #22 of 1146
JR- that is absolutely INSANE about the hospital food! I expect regular people to be ignorant about that, but to be a so called medical professional arguing with you about your own kid, seriously is crazy!

I have made those donuts before you can just fry them up, actually I like them fried better- you know in palm or coconut oil or whatever.
post #23 of 1146
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JR- that is absolutely INSANE about the hospital food! I expect regular people to be ignorant about that, but to be a so called medical professional arguing with you about your own kid, seriously is crazy!

I have made those donuts before you can just fry them up, actually I like them fried better- you know in palm or coconut oil or whatever.
Did you use a donut dropper or just put blobs of batter in the pan? I don't know how thick the batter is..

ETA: Guess if I actually read the post, I'd know. A donut dropper should work with them..
post #24 of 1146
I don't have a donut dropper and I have made a few different recipes, so cannot remember the exact consistency of that dough. I cannot remember if I had to pour it or if it would form.
post #25 of 1146
whoMe, got an adrenal fatigue question for you.

Did you get tested to figure out what stage you were in, back when you started all this? What stage was that?

I was just working my way backward through the 7 stages, and a) I think I've moved from stage 5 to stage 4, which is good, but then I looked at stage 3.

The description on this page...
http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%203.html

talks about a feeling of anxiety, even almost panic attacks, because cortisol is so elevated. That doesn't sound fun, it sounds seriously like a bummer. I had a phase like that, but it was during a high-stress phase when I was going downhill rapidly, just before I quit working, so I don't think it was quite the same, but it was still not fun.

So I wanted to ask, did you notice stuff like that? I'm thinking the usual deal of frequent, small, protein-containing snacks is part of levelling that out? Any tips? Or maybe you didn't get it, which would be a spark of hope.
post #26 of 1146
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
whoMe, got an adrenal fatigue question for you.

Did you get tested to figure out what stage you were in, back when you started all this? What stage was that?

I was just working my way backward through the 7 stages, and a) I think I've moved from stage 5 to stage 4, which is good, but then I looked at stage 3.

The description on this page...
http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%203.html

talks about a feeling of anxiety, even almost panic attacks, because cortisol is so elevated. That doesn't sound fun, it sounds seriously like a bummer. I had a phase like that, but it was during a high-stress phase when I was going downhill rapidly, just before I quit working, so I don't think it was quite the same, but it was still not fun.

So I wanted to ask, did you notice stuff like that? I'm thinking the usual deal of frequent, small, protein-containing snacks is part of levelling that out? Any tips? Or maybe you didn't get it, which would be a spark of hope.
My test was through a different lab that doesn't do stages like that. I remember looking at the graphs and not really fitting with them - I had high morning cortisol, then low/normal noon, low afternoon, low/normal nighttime. Later, looking at some of the abstracts from that psychoneuroendocrinology conference I didn't make it to Someone had done a study comparing postpartum cortisol patterns of people with or without childhood trauma. I fit the definition of a traumatic childhood, since my dad died when I was 8, and the pattern they found was one that exactly matched my results In terms of healing, it was like switches for me - the right vitamins (b5/b6 etc) and irritability and insomnia vanished, then the high biotin and I think that fixed my cholesterol, and vanquished the adrenal fatigue along with it. Did I mention that I've flat out skipped my mag and B5 (the two biggest players for me) several times a week, and not paid the adrenal price? It seems like the opposite would be true at this point in pregnancy, if anything...

So yeah. No anxiety/panic attacks. The time that I'm guessing my cortisol was the highest was just a happy energy high, no bad stuff along with it, and the year after when I think I crashed hard (possibly my low point?) was just depression. Never had a panic attack to go with it, and depending how you define anxiety, I've either *always* had it (shyness, easy to cry, sensitive kid) or else not until the past year or so (unreasonably worried about stuff).

Time for bed. My mom's ordering enterolab testing, and my hair test should be in tomorrow
post #27 of 1146
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I don't have a donut dropper and I have made a few different recipes, so cannot remember the exact consistency of that dough. I cannot remember if I had to pour it or if it would form.
Ohh, sorry now I remember. The batter is kind of like cake batter. I put them in a baggie and cut a whole out the corner and squeezed it out. If I would have had like an icing squeezer that would have worked well- with a big whole of course. So, if that is what the donut dropper does that will work wonders.
post #28 of 1146
JR, that's insane! When my diabetic SIL was in the hospital last the nurses kept offering her Oreos .

Mm, donuts So far our rotation is going well. We're only on day five, but we stuck to it even when we were all sick
post #29 of 1146
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Ohh, sorry now I remember. The batter is kind of like cake batter. I put them in a baggie and cut a whole out the corner and squeezed it out. If I would have had like an icing squeezer that would have worked well- with a big whole of course. So, if that is what the donut dropper does that will work wonders.
I tried a different recipe which I fried. Tasted like fried dough. Yum. But I thought I'd be good and try a baked version.
post #30 of 1146
Well, I consider it being good to fry (well assuming you are using a good oil!) I think high fat diets are good for us I think the fat is the healthiest part of the donut
post #31 of 1146
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Well, I consider it being good to fry (well assuming you are using a good oil!) I think high fat diets are good for us I think the fat is the healthiest part of the donut
Well it was pretty tasty. I just dropped by the spoonful but maybe next time I'll try the bag method & make circles.
post #32 of 1146
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama View Post
Ohh, sorry now I remember. The batter is kind of like cake batter. I put them in a baggie and cut a whole out the corner and squeezed it out. If I would have had like an icing squeezer that would have worked well- with a big whole of course. So, if that is what the donut dropper does that will work wonders.
A donut dropper is sort of like a cookie press, except instead of dough, you use cake batter. Then you just squeeze down the lever while over the oil and the batter drops into the oil in the shape of a donut.
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JR, that's insane! When my diabetic SIL was in the hospital last the nurses kept offering her Oreos .

Mm, donuts So far our rotation is going well. We're only on day five, but we stuck to it even when we were all sick
Yes it is. What's even more insane is that his chart states explicitly that he will have food brought in from home bc the surgeon said he just can't see them being able to accommodate his food restrictions... Yet they go up to a 10 yo, in the half hour that he's alone in his room, and try to give him Pediasure saying "Oh it tastes like milkshake! It's fine! You don't have to wait for mom and dad, I checked it and it's okay! It's really goood.... It tastes like a MILKSHAKE!!" Sorry. Still a little pissed about it.
post #33 of 1146
Hello all! Just wanted to pop in and update. Went to see the allergist, who agrees with you all that it's asthma and probably some allergies. He didn't do the full allergies test on me, but said we should do so in a few months. He gave me an inhaler (sambutrol I think), and some antihistimines. But here's the thing, I guess I was naive in thinking the inhaler would make my coughing (esp the nighttime coughing) go away, but it hasn't really. It seems I do ok in the mornings (but I wonder if that has more to do with caffeine in the coffee) but, get worse throughout the day. I don't know. I'm a little depressed. I was so looking forward to a full night's sleep on the weekend, that the resulting lack of sleep was very depressing. I still am overly grouchy and still feeling zombieish from lack of sleep. grump.

JacquelineR, that's over the top about the hospital and "nutrition" what a mess!
post #34 of 1146
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama View Post
Well, I consider it being good to fry (well assuming you are using a good oil!) I think high fat diets are good for us I think the fat is the healthiest part of the donut
I'm still up in the air about frying. It's delicious and all cultures seem to have their fried foods, but frying carbs creates acrylamides which are bad...

You could always make a funnel cake instead of round donuts

Teenytoona, unless the antihistamines make a big difference, I'd seriously consider trying out a molybdenum supplement (or eat a bunch of beans/lentils for a while) and reading the sulfur sensitivity thread. It's a fairly harmless thing to try, and there's a bunch of links out there between sulfur/sulfites and asthma.
post #35 of 1146
Sheesh, I've been non-existent these days...we've been SO BUSY! Most of it is fun things, but it's taking it's toll...WhoMe...clue me into a good all around adrenal supp? I ran out of mine from the HCP and want to try something new.
|My adrenals tanked this weekend...my sister threw DH and I a surprise bday party (ours are close together) and there was homemade icecream and earthquake cake...lots of dairy, which is my main affliction. I think it was that that tipped me over. It was a great party, tho!

JR, that is just CRAZY! |I would be infuriated! Yay for DS--it's hard enough for an adult to stay strong with an "authority figure", let alone a ten yr old!

So sorry he's in the hospital! No fun and a lot of extra stress for you.

I'm with WhoMe on the hospital and nutrition...gotta keep things cheap so as to make more of a profit!|

DD2 has had a rash on her bum since the watermelon incident and it is just not going away...but she is self potty teaching, so at least her bum won't be constantly moist.

I subbed, so I'll try to kep up better after this week...I'm canning roasted green chilis today, got a concert tomorrow, an essential oil class |Wed, and the fair coming up--which of course, we had to enter produce and CD art, baked goods, ect...which all means a lot of WORK for me!
post #36 of 1146
I don't have a general adrenal supp. I did b complex, extra b5/b6, and mag. and calcium and biotin. and...

sounds like you're having fun over there! I wish we were busier with doing stuff. Instead I feel like I'm fighting for non-computer time to do things like make dinner and do homework. If we make it out of the house, it's a great day!
post #37 of 1146
Whome, that thread is WAYYY over my head. Is there somewhere that's a kindergarden version of all that?
post #38 of 1146
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Whome, that thread is WAYYY over my head. Is there somewhere that's a kindergarden version of all that?
sorry

In short, sulfite sensitivity is a common cause of asthma, and salicylate sensitivity is as well. Molybdenum is a mineral that you need in order to process sulfites (toxic) into sulfate (important for detoxing salicylates among other things). So if you were low in molybdenum, you could easily end up with a buildup of both sulfites AND salicylates, and so you're dramatically increasing your chances of asthma. Beans and lentils are both good, cheap food sources, so they might be really helpful additions to your diet.
post #39 of 1146
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nak
decided to splurge on a blended decaf granita w/ soy milk from the coffee shop... i turned to dh after tasting it and said "are you sure this is soy?" he assured me it was... so i drank it.

we get to the hospital and i start feeling sort of light-headed/headachy- like i've either had milk or caffeine..... then dh says "hmm. my coffee tastes weird... sort of like it's made with soymilk."
that's right- HIS coffee was made decaf w/soy.. mine was caffeinated w/milk. GAH. stupid stupid me.
post #40 of 1146
this is just not your week, JR. Sorry. Sending you functionality vibes...

We are having fun, but even fun busy takes it's toll...on me at least. My adrenal supp had glandular in it which really helps me.

My sis just reminded me that everything has to be in by WED for the fair...I was thinking Friday, ack. Did I mention that I'm entering in some of my garden stuff? Queensland Blue and Musquee de Provence pumpkins, sibley banana squash, baby butternut, mixed greens and some watermelons as well...could be fun! (None of that stuff takes much more work...they're already growing--it's all the artsy things I've got to get started on with the kids!)

DH forgot and gave dd some meat with questionable spices on them Saturday. I gave her clay, dig. enzymes and epsom salt bath. It seems to have helped with some of the behavioral stuff, but her face is pale and she got immediate red rings around her eyes, within minutes of eating it. DH felt so bad! It's been awhile since she's been exposed and I'm glad the behavior wasn't as far lived as usual, but it always makes me realize just how sensitive she is...
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