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WWYD to deal with 1yr old boy in stores, etc

post #1 of 16
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Hello!

I haven't posted much here but now that we finally have high speed internet in our area it will easier for me to drop it!

So, here's my situation: I have five children; 12, 9, 7, and 3 all girls and then a 16 month old boy. It is SO different having a boy and I'm really feeling puzzled at how to deal with his energy. We manage pretty well at home, although with the cooler weather closing in he's starting to 'climb to walls' so to speak and try to go up on the table and computer desk to explore. However, I'm having trouble at stores. Yesterday we went to a local fruit stand type store. We went inside and he wanted a honey sucker his 3 year old sister handed him. I said no and we put it back. Then he took the container off the shelf and got one himself. He wanted to me open it and when I wouldn't he motioned to stomp on it but stopped himself. At this point I was pretty flustered and was trying hard to consentrate and finish shopping so we could get out of there. My instinct when he starts acting up in a store is to take him out, but I'm always the only adult and I'm in the middle of shopping (we've had some tough times at Walmart). So, then I hear the CRASH of glass breaking. He was standing next to a broken jar of jam that had been on the shelf next to the suckers. I felt so terrible. He was scared and asked to be held and was quiet while I checked out.

So, how do you handle that sort of thing? I asked a few mama's at the dance/gymnastic lesson waiting room where we finished out the evening yesterday and they said to spank him. I could consider there is something in a 'language' like that that he could understand, but it is not something I am comfortable with. Plus I'm not completely impressed by these mother's results with their children. So, what is the other way? My mother and I talked about it and she advocated trying to talk to him before we go into the store and reward him for good behavior and also teach him that he can't touch things in stores, with a last resort of a slap on the hand.

So, I'm looking for some ideas on dealing with this darling, spirited little boy!

Love,
Leslie
post #2 of 16
If your older kids are with you I'd suggest one of them help by pushing him either in a cart or a stroller. If they aren't than can he sit in the cart?
post #3 of 16
Ditto the stroller. With a snack, something fiddly like raisins. You could wear him in a sling or backpack as well if he's willing.

16 months is very young to be able to control himself while shopping. It sounds like you handled the situation really well and TBH there was nothing in his behavior that I would call 'bad'--just age-appropriate.
post #4 of 16
Containment is key. Cart or stroller with a snack or toys he likes to play with.
post #5 of 16
I'd never give raisins to a 16 mo old (mine is almost two and still not allowed) but he's eaten them when they're all plump and moist, inside, say, a raisin bread, or oatmeal. Never dried - choking hazard.

Anyway, my strategy for shopping is first we take a stroll to the toy aisle and I pick out 3 or 4 interesting things, then I make my way throughout the store, as he is occupied by each one, when he gets bored I give him a new one. HOpefully, by the time I'm done, he hasn't run out of toys, then we put them back at the end, and I check out. Doesn't always work perfectly but it gives me a little time anyway, as long as I have "extra" time to waste in getting the toys, and putting them back again.
post #6 of 16
Two shorter shopping trips in a week are better than one long one.

A snack in a container (dry cereal, pretzels, crackers, whatever your family eats) and containment. I always put the kid on my back with mei tai or Ergo. Right up through age 2 or 2 1/2.
post #7 of 16
I still wear my 37 lb. 2.5 year old when I shop alone. There's just no other way we would be welcomed customers most days. I try to engage him in the shopping, and he sometimes carries a baby (doll, bear, turtle) to take care of while we shop.
Melinda
post #8 of 16
I'm totally amazed you have four older kids and not one of them was difficult in the store at this age. You are so lucky maybe you should play the lottery!
post #9 of 16
Sounds like my 13 month old daughter.

Redirect, distract, redirect, distract, restrain, sympathize, redirect, distract, repeat until nap.

So you redirect:
"Help push the cart!"

you distract:
"Would you like to play with this awesome toy I just pulled out of my purse?"

you restrain:
scoop baby up and bodily move him from destructible object

and sympathize:
"I know, that looked very interesting, you wanted to touch it and it was just too fragile for you."

and distract:
"here's something you can play with!"
post #10 of 16
I'm astounded, by the way, that your mother thinks that talking to a 16 month old in advance will do any good. Are your kids early talkers or something?
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by newmum35 View Post
I'd never give raisins to a 16 mo old (mine is almost two and still not allowed) but he's eaten them when they're all plump and moist, inside, say, a raisin bread, or oatmeal. Never dried - choking hazard.
Really? I never heard raisins were a choking hazard. My 14mo was eating them by the fistful in the stroller today!
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Natsuki View Post
Containment is key. Cart or stroller with a snack or toys he likes to play with.
My children were ALWAYS in strollers buckled in, or in the top of the grocery cart, buckled in, or in the children's cart, buckled in, at that age and well, probably until they were five, when in stores, markets, the mall, etc. It's completely natural for a 16 month old to do those things and no amount of talking with change that very normal nature, so containment and diversion is key.

I disagree that it is a boy/girl difference though. It may be a child specific difference, but to me it seems very normal and common, and unusual for a child of that age to NOT do that in the same situation.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by alfabetsoup View Post
Really? I never heard raisins were a choking hazard. My 14mo was eating them by the fistful in the stroller today!
Oh absolutely. Raisins are on the choking hazards list everywhere. They are right up there with hard candy, nuts, grapes, hot dogs, etc!! Peanut butter and marshmallows are other hazards people might not be aware of.


http://www.babycenter.com/0_foods-th...ler_1491465.bc

http://www.answers.com/topic/choking

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/b...ng-hazards.htm

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/3/T030400.asp
post #14 of 16
I would say you just have an explorer on your hands. At 16 months he isn't doing stuff to be "bad" or to irritate you he is exploring his environment.

That said if a child prone to enjoying physical interactions with his environment is in a situation where that interaction is dangerous or inappropriate it is up to the child's care giver to keep him safe and out of trouble.

At open air markets I hip sling my boy and bring a grocery cart. He is a bit heavy so at the grocery store he goes in the cart. Since you have older children one of them could be responsible for pushing the stroller. At this stage talking isn't going to work; containment & interaction would be the way to go.
post #15 of 16
My brother nearly choked to death on bread when he was 2, he'd chewed it up into a big ball and then choked on it. My DD gets raisins and has done since she was about 14 months since i accept she might choke on anything she put in her mouth.

I wore my DD in the meitai on my back until she was about 2.5 (still do occasionally) or more rarely (i usually didn't need that much shopping) i put her into the cart and belted her in. For us 16months was just too young to "discipline", she was fascinated by everything and too wee to have any impulse control even if she understood that she shouldn't touch something.

FWIW i would try to keep the 3 year old and the baby apart in stores too as both of them are liminal in their impulse control still and the 3 year old may unwittingly cause situations for you (like with the honey sucker) when she is just trying to be sweet to her brother.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks! That helps me feel better at least!

Thanks everyone! And ha ha about not having trouble with my other children in stores. I really didn't like this! They were all nice little girls who were happy to sit in the cart. I'm pretty calm myself, so my children have generally responded to that. It is just comforting to have your replies. He does seem 'normal' and very healthy. I do think he is different because he is a boy and generally we are really relishing his difference and energy.

I always start with him in the cart, like at Walmart (and I hate that store but somehow have to go there anyway), but then he cries to get out and being easy going as I am I was letting him out without hardly thinking about it. So, now I know I have to keep him in as long as possible. Once he is out, oh yeah, he 'helps' push the cart, like really far away. I'll consider wearing him. We do that for hiking and he likes it. I've hardly ever used a stroller. I do have one I got from a friend who was moving that I got for pushing him up to the barn for chores last winter so I could be free to work. He doesn't respond to little toys like all my other children did. He would just throw it. He likes big things. Especially things he can push.

I did think my mom's idea of talking seemed sketchy, and he isn't much of a talker yet, but they understand more than we realize a lot, so I thought it might be worth a shot.

I just needed a breath of fresh natural mama advice. My local association isn't that great like that. I was recently starting to wonder if I'm the only woman in the country that exclusively breastfeeds without any expressing or bottles. I'm sure I'm not (right?!), but I guess I'm just feeling a little isolated!

And forget about other people who cloth diaper! I guess there are Amish or menonite ladies, but they keep to their own communities. Most women I see are at gymnastics and dance (same place) and they are the first generation after big farm families and just trying to fit right into the popular media ideas of women and child raising. We also go to our local Hare Krishna temple and there are folks from all over there, but I guess I'm not really connecting with anyone closely right now.

So, I guess in summary I just have to keep learning to work his energy and manage him into reasonable boundaries. I think we'll go take a walk to the barn now and then do our homeschooling.

Love,
Leslie
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