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post #1 of 29
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Dd will be going to a fall gathering for one day coming up soon. It will be all day, into the evening. They bring a sack lunch, but dinner will be around the campfire. They will be roasting hot dogs.

Dd has some pretty severe food intolerances. She is on an all-natural diet. We do allow exceptions, but are careful that if she "indulges" that it is spaced out and she doesn't eat a lot of trigger ingredients close together. Also, she knows well what the result will be when she eats her trigger foods. She is beginning to take some responsibility for it. For example, she can eat some candy with artificial flavoring on the weekend, but the rest of the week, we are careful that she doesn't get any more. Artificial colors and preservatives result in more severe reactions... mainly horrible itchy eczema, night terrors (restless sleep), headaches and lethargy. She never eats fast food and we don't eat things like hot dogs and bologna at home, as we pointedly avoid nitrites and nitrates.

For starters, if she has the hot dogs, she is going to be miserable that night. I don't want her to be miserable. I don't want her to associate this fun event with being miserable. Secondly, she has never eaten hot dogs and I don't want her to even taste them. Yeah, I know they taste good, I ate them as a kid. Dd actually likes pretty sophisticated foods for her age (7.5) because we've been traveling all over the world with her since she was 5 months old. She loves mussels, shrimp, ethnic foods, gourmet cheeses, exotic fruits and vegetables. I don't *want* her to eat hot dogs and start to ask for them, even with consequences. However, I realize that roasting hot dogs around a campfire is a cultural experience that is part of growing up in rural America. I don't want her to feel left out. I am going to talk to her about it, as she has a lot of common sense. In the meantime, what are other people's thoughts? Let her have the hot dog and deal with a sleepless night helping her through the misery of nightmares and itching or send something separate and risk her feeling left out?
post #2 of 29
Can you provide some vegetarian hot dogs for her? Maybe try them out at home first to make sure they're ok?

I wouldn't be keen on introducing a new food if she's got a lot of allergies in that situation, but if you can do the veggie dogs at home first, it might be a happy medium and you know she'll still have a good time and feel included.
post #3 of 29
I second the veggie or tofu dogs.. the ones we get have no preservatives or weird stuff in them
post #4 of 29
What about making some bannock for her to roast, enough that she could share?
post #5 of 29
There are real beef hotdogs without nitrates/nitrites/fillers/coloring,etc. out there. Maybe provide one of those if she's not into veggie dogs?
post #6 of 29
I agree, there are a ton of more natural products that resemble a regular old hot dog. Get some and send them with an ice pack. Ditto for anything else that might be served that would be a problem.
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks! I didn't know these other things existed. I just don't have a reason to look, I guess. Can you buy these at the regular grocery store (we have a Kroger with a refrigerated organic section), or do I need to go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
post #8 of 29
You should be able to get Tofu dogs or similar at the regular grocery (we can get them here) but I'm not sure about real meat dogs.
post #9 of 29
Another similar option would be to look for some kind of preservative free sausages at TJ's or whole foods. I know TJ's at least carries all different flavors of sausages.

I'm not sure about regular grocery stores, but I know TJ's has several different kinds of nitrate/nitrite free hot dogs as well. They have beef and turkey dogs and I know they have some kind of veggie/soy dogs as well.
post #10 of 29
I think at 7.5, she's getting to the age where she can make these decisions herself, especially as it's an intolerance and not an allergy that will kill her. What does she think?

Off the top of my head, I'd also look at roasting potatoes/ sweet potatoes, making dampers, toasting marshmallows (s'mores, anyone?- and you can get marshmallows with natural colourings and flavourings here at least) or planking a fish fillet. There's a whole host of different alternatives that don't just involve hotdogs.
post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by velochic View Post
Thanks! I didn't know these other things existed. I just don't have a reason to look, I guess. Can you buy these at the regular grocery store (we have a Kroger with a refrigerated organic section), or do I need to go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
You should be able to get both veggie dogs and nitrate-free meat hotdogs at Kroger (I can, as well as nitrate free bacon and sausage). If not, definitely at Trader Joe's.

I wouldn't withhold a hotdog (esp one that won't set off her food sensitivities) for fear that it will ruin her palate. A kid who knows good food will still love good food, even if they enjoy a hot dog now and then. And, she might surprise you! My 8 yo has had plenty of opportunities to taste hot dogs, but hates them. She also hates chicken nuggets, all fast food, and peanut butter and jelly OTOH, she raves about my homemade meals, ethnic food, and oyster casserole (a holiday treat around here)
post #12 of 29
I second the idea of finding more acceptable, higher-quality campfire food for her to take and share. Sounds like a great compromise.

Also, my kids are accustomed to sophisticated and varied food and they really don't prefer junk food or fast food. (With a few exceptions -- one really likes potato chips and the other likes bologna.) But my 10yo actively dislikes McDonald's and neither one would eat a hot dog at a campfire, even though I would occasionally eat these things myself and have never completely kept them away from these things.
post #13 of 29
Ditto the alternative suggestion. You could either go with a healthier tofu or uncured hot-dog, or you could get or make some more gourmet sausages to take and roast on the fire. Honestly, around here, most families seem to eat healthier foods than they would have done in years past and popping open a packet of Tofu Pups wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.

My kids only get uncured hot-dogs, and rarely at that, and they do like them, but it's never interfered with their adventuresome tastes. I just asked them what their 'perfect' breakfast would be this AM. They said, "Mamma Mac (my own mac & cheese, with veggies, etc), tuna and pancakes". They must be channeling my preggo tastes... Seriously, though, they'll eat mussels and sushi and curry just as readily as they will hot dogs.

Oh, ETA: Don't forget the HFCS-free ketchup and whole-wheat buns....THAT'S where I find we sometimes slip up and end up eating gross white bread and God-knows-what's-in-it condiments which leave us all feeling yucky.
post #14 of 29
We get Applegate Farms brand. I know I can get it at TJs and Whole Foods but it is probably available at many regular grocery stores as well.
post #15 of 29
As others have said is there a "hot dog" alternative you can use?
We take a group of kids (ages 8-17 from the martial arts school where I help teach) camping for 3 days twice every summer. There is one family who is vegetarian. The parents send veggie burgers and hot dogs for their kids that way they could still be eating the same foods w/o actually be eating the same food. KWIM?

That way your DD can still have the experience of roasting hotdogs over the fire with the others w/o flaring up her negative reactions.

And yes you can get veggie/tofu dogs at Kroger.
post #16 of 29
The Applegate Farms hotdogs are really good. They taste just like regular hotdogs (well, a bit better, really). I wonder though, depending on how many kids there are, how vocal your child is, and how many adults there are, if she would actually end up with the right hotdogs? I could see the adults being very careful if you send veggie dogs, but I don't know about just different beef hotdogs. I guess it depends on how seriously they take your child's food intolerances and how busy/forgetful they are.

Personally as a kid I couldn't have cared less about the hotdogs, but I wouldn't have wanted to miss the s'mores! That seems like a potential problem, too.
post #17 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks again for the ideas. I will look at Kroger to see what I can find.

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Originally Posted by noobmom View Post
Personally as a kid I couldn't have cared less about the hotdogs, but I wouldn't have wanted to miss the s'mores! That seems like a potential problem, too.
Thankfully, this isn't a problem... she doesn't like s'mores! We tried them once while camping a couple of years ago. We used organic graham crackers, but the marshmallows were regular.
post #18 of 29
I like the Applegate all-beef hotdogs as well. I think they're yummy! I would send those since they look like any other hotdog, assuming you can trust the staff to give her the right ones.

Also, Whole Foods carries some natural marshmallows if she wants to try smores again. I honestly don't think they're as tasty as the junky ones, but they don't have anything artificial in them so it could be worth a try.
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by velochic View Post
Thanks! I didn't know these other things existed. I just don't have a reason to look, I guess. Can you buy these at the regular grocery store (we have a Kroger with a refrigerated organic section), or do I need to go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
Whole Foods definitely would carry them... Applegate Farms makes a good "yucky stuff" free hot dogs, as does Coleman Natural (under the Coleman Natural and Rocky brands) and Niman Ranch (although for those go with the uncured ones).
post #20 of 29
Tofu/veggie dogs and nitrate/yucky stuff-free meatdogs can be found at Fred Meyer and Safeway too.
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