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post #1 of 8
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I'm going back to school sometime in the next year or so... was going to do a MSW but what I really want is a PhD in psychology. I can do so much more with it!

My biggest concern is in having time with my now 4 yr old daughter. I'm hearing that this full time program (only one near us and my dh's job) takes a good 50 hrs or so per week!! YIKES

So, I'm curious to know....

How many hrs per wk does your schooling and related activities take?
How many waking hrs per day do you get with your child?
Have you found any special ways to make that time really meaningful?
How old is your child(ren)?
What advice do you have for someone considering a PhD program?

Thanks
post #2 of 8
My Ph.D work definitely takes about 50 hours a week, though I'm on sort of a hiatus right now. My sister's Ph.D in psychology took her more like 60 hours a week.

FWIW, my sister says if she had it all to do over again, she would get the MSW instead of the Ph.D. She wants to do clinical practice and consulting, not so much research, and she could have done what she wants with less stress and fewer student loans if she'd gone the MSW route.
post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by lolar2 View Post

FWIW, my sister says if she had it all to do over again, she would get the MSW instead of the Ph.D. She wants to do clinical practice and consulting, not so much research, and she could have done what she wants with less stress and fewer student loans if she'd gone the MSW route.
I think that this is an excellent point. What do you want to DO with this degree? I hate to say this--but I have read a lot of posts from moms who say things along the lines of: I have to stay in school because my student loans are paying for our lifestyle...OR...I think I'll get a degree now when the kids are little, since I am at home with them...OR...a combination or variation of the above. To get a degree just to have a degree or because it's a distraction is not a good reason to get a degree. College degrees (whether they be undergrad or grad) have become a big business in the US. Beware.
Think about things like: how will I eventually pay for this degree? Do I really need it for my field? As the person above posted, a PhD is really a research degree--you need it if you plan to become a researcher in your chosen field.

I have a PhD from a brick and mortar instituion (i.e., not an on-line degree). My children were two and three when I began. It was very difficult. My dh was really helpful and took the kids on the weekends so I could start working Saturday morning at 6AM and finish up just in time to go to bed Sunday night. And that was just the weekends. I had no life and missed a million holidays getting that degree. I made some good friends during the time I was in school and they all had the same complaints. And my experience was much different than my undergrad days--the holidays in grad school were not days off--especially when it came to the comps, dissertation proposal, dissertation--oh my goodness. I thought I would never complete that process. I cried often during the proposal part of my degree. My dissertation was completely qualitative and it was a bear.
But I will say this: I am very proud of what I did. I went to one of the top ten (according to US News and World Report annual survey) colleges in the US and do not regret it. But I worry sometimes about how it might have affected the memories that my children have when they talk about the things that they did last summer or one particular weekend. I understand that other parents face this due to divorce or work or whatever--but I CHOSE this on my own, and sometimes I do have pangs of regret for their sake.
And yes, I am now using my degree in my chosen field and it is required for what I do...but I still wonder from time to time about what I gave up.

I would also suggest to you that talk to people who attend/ed the institution where you want to go. Ask them about the hours, the degree, etc., beyond posting here where the experiences will not mirror what you are planning to do. I interviewed the professors, the students, and read and read and read about the degree, the degree requirements, and the compared my school to many others offering the same degree--and I did all of this BEFORE I even picked up and application. I am sure you have thought about all of these things, but I just wanted to throw it out there in case you haven't thought about it.
Good luck!
post #4 of 8
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I want to pursue the PhD instead of the MSW because I want to do research. I'd like to be on the cutting edge of mind/body connection research. I'd also like to adjunct a bit and do some clinical. I'm actually going to be helping with a research project this semester... just for fun.

Paying for the degree is not a problem. This particular state college funds their PhD students - primarily through work experience. One person I know in the program not only does not pay for it, but receives excellent health benefits and a very small monetary stipend.

All that being said, it is very competetive to get into...

Time is my main concern however. The guy I know in the program spends about 50 hrs per week on school related activities, and it was more like 60 hrs per week his first year or so. However, he's trying to get through the program fairly quickly. I could conceivably take a yr and 1/2 longer than he's taking.

He told me NOT to mention the time factor to the grad school up front as they push students to get through as quickly as possible so they can free up spots for more students. But he said once I'm in I can slow things down - I'll just be encouraged to do otherwise.
post #5 of 8
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Time is my main concern however. The guy I know in the program spends about 50 hrs per week on school related activities, and it was more like 60 hrs per week his first year or so. However, he's trying to get through the program fairly quickly. I could conceivably take a yr and 1/2 longer than he's taking.

He told me NOT to mention the time factor to the grad school up front as they push students to get through as quickly as possible so they can free up spots for more students. But he said once I'm in I can slow things down - I'll just be encouraged to do otherwise.
From this information, I'd guess that you could maybe whittle things down to 40 hours a week plus commuting time.
post #6 of 8
its def a full-time job, and plus some. ita with everyone - i have to have ds in care FT.
post #7 of 8
mama do you plan to have more children.

i am not a Ph D student right now but will be in the future.

the reason why i jumped in was because you mentioned your time with your 4 year old.

i am a single mom. and my first priority was my dd. i went back to school after she turned 6. i could not do it before being a single mom. however before i did (because it would mean a huge life change for us - esp. financially) i made it a joint decision. by then i noticed my dd didnt need me anymore so much. she was happier being with other kids and friends rather than having me around. however we still cosleep and so that plays a HUGE part in our time with each other.

so yes my time with my dd is reduced. however i dont feel bad about it. nor does my dd. we both do our homework together. she goes with me to school quite a bit for study groups or anythign extra. obviously now at 7 she can sit and do her own thing which she would not be able to do at 4.

so yes my education has been delayed. but i have not one ounce of regret. i have met many moms like GLLLy-girl who really do look back with regret. i have a loooong road ahead of me. and i feel alive and excited about it because i have my dd's support in this. i dont feel torn. in fact i feel school has enriched our lives even more giving us opportunities we wouldnt have had, had i continued working. right now dd is helping me learn the 206 bones in the human body. she helped me with teh periodic table and remembers most of it herself.
post #8 of 8
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mama do you plan to have more children.

i am not a Ph D student right now but will be in the future.

the reason why i jumped in was because you mentioned your time with your 4 year old.

i am a single mom. and my first priority was my dd. i went back to school after she turned 6. i could not do it before being a single mom. however before i did (because it would mean a huge life change for us - esp. financially) i made it a joint decision. by then i noticed my dd didnt need me anymore so much. she was happier being with other kids and friends rather than having me around. however we still cosleep and so that plays a HUGE part in our time with each other.

so yes my time with my dd is reduced. however i dont feel bad about it. nor does my dd. we both do our homework together. she goes with me to school quite a bit for study groups or anythign extra. obviously now at 7 she can sit and do her own thing which she would not be able to do at 4.

so yes my education has been delayed. but i have not one ounce of regret. i have met many moms like GLLLy-girl who really do look back with regret. i have a loooong road ahead of me. and i feel alive and excited about it because i have my dd's support in this. i dont feel torn. in fact i feel school has enriched our lives even more giving us opportunities we wouldnt have had, had i continued working. right now dd is helping me learn the 206 bones in the human body. she helped me with teh periodic table and remembers most of it herself.
Your story is encouraging! I have some pre-req classes to take and need some more research experience before I could even apply. So I wouldn't be starting full time until dd is about 6.

She's already at the point where she's eager to spend time with other children. We've switched from the idea of me being home full time and homeschooling her to having her in kindergarten part time this year - even tho she's only 4 - because she is extremely extroverted and advanced academically and emotionally for her age.

It's so hard to to imagine where your kid will be down the road in a few years! I never would have thought a yr ago that she'd be wanting to spend 1/2 day or more each day in school this year like she loves. Being away from me 8 hrs or so per day in a few more years will likely be no big deal to her .... who knows... I might be the one who has a harder time with it haha!

We cosleep still too - and no, I don't plan on having any more.
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