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This is why I wanted to UP/ UC in the first place!!! Major vent

post #1 of 26
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I went to a OB for the first time at 26 weeks approx. I didn't want to go, but I had to get some medical forms filled out and a proof of pregnancy just woulnd't cut it.....

So- I arrive late to the appt b/c my sitter was late. The nurse lectured me right from the get go- geesh. One urine sample later- I arrive at the room and let the nurse know I don't want a bunch of tests done- my first mistake - I can tell this is the kinda of place that would do that to me... THEN I see a bunch of tools for a PAP. I thought I would see the dr and maybe get a doppler reading, but nooooo..... I need to strip down to my bday suit. And admittedly it had been a while since my last, so I was due, but man that really blew my mind. When I questioned the nurse she said all new OB pt's get one.... (In my head I need that form filled out so I stick it out)

The Dr then comes in all huffed up and says- "So I hear you don't want any testing done" And I said " I don't want things like an US and a few other things".... I told him this was my third pregnancy - which his reply is " So that makes you an expert?"

I should have said yes it does, of my body it does indeed- but my mind was still reeling so I said no- but man I was blowing up in my mind. He proceeds to inform my the US are necessary and useful tools- which he requires

The appt only goes down hill from there- he doesn't tell me he is going to feel me up before he begins my breast exam- tells my the speculum is chilled and that is the entire amount of his warning. Then they tell me that i need a crap load of blood testing done. I am ushered to the lab where they take 5 vials of blood from me and send me on my way. Oh and they want to come back to make an appt with this woman to set up the US. I am like "You're going to make me pay a sitter to come to an appt to make an appt????" The nurse just shrugs her shoulders. Oh and now I have to come every two weeks because I am so later to start care.

Oh and BTW, baby was head down, perfect heart tones, minimal weight gain on my part, measuring 25 cm- which is closer to my estimation of delivery than LMP, and my B/P was 102/66.

I went in there thinking I would talk to a doctor who would ask me how I was feeling, what I am eating, doing for exercise, and why I am there. Instead I end up naked with my feet in stirrups, shaking my head and staring at the wall simply dumbfounded that I am in this situation. I have never been treated so horribly by any medical professional EVER. I am not going back to this doctor obviously. If not for needing the medical form filled out I would never have experienced such rude and abominable behavior. If my mind wasn't set before it is surely set now. I cannot believe I let this happen to myself.

On the up side- I found a mw who I is willing to come and see me after I have the baby and take care of any stitching if needed as well as the newborn exam. ( This after asking one mw the same thing- which she replied " NO no no , I absolutely do not support UC. I am baffled at the scope of people out there. Thank goodness I was prepared for these scenarios, otherwise I would have lost all faith in humanity. Needless to say I am very disappointed at how the appt went, but am looking forward to seeing the LO on the US- and then when I see baby is perfect- I will have no qualms about proceeding whatsoever with UP And UC. Thanks for reading if you made it to the end.
post #2 of 26
I am SO sorry you went through that. *sigh* I hate how people who don't play by all their rules get treated. It is abominable. Anyhow s and let me just say I had a u/s and was happy to see it was a boy and he was healthy. Good luck!
post #3 of 26
Sounds like most of my first OB appointments (and I have had a "few" to be sure).

So sorry you had to deal with this stupidity. Hope all goes well and you never have to see any OB like this again!
post #4 of 26


Yeah that is a lot like the "MW" who I went to with my second for a couple of appts. I was excited to find one near me who I could prove to certain people was "okay" because she was in an OBs office...blah.
I love how it is "Go along with what I say or else." when it is OUR bodies!

post #5 of 26
Ugh i think it is kinda sad the disconnection that is normalized.. sorry you had to go through that and thanks for the reminder why i am so thankful for this healthy UP pregnancy
post #6 of 26
I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's easier said than done to stick up for yourself sometimes huh! Glad you don't have to go back though
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
I figured the OB would look at me kinda crazy- but he made me feel stupid- and that is one thing I am not. I know when to pick my battles, and he seemed like a lost cause- he even said he was a traditional OB- which translated to me that it's his surgical way or the highway. I left knowing that he would cut me open in a heart beat if my labor was one iota from normal.

Sad to hear others have experienced similar situations. I am so used to the midwifery model of care, but have had one OB before- so it was a shock.

One thing I am thankful for is that I didn't meet this guy when I was 8 weeks along and unsure of where things were headed- that would have totally burst my bubble for sure.
post #8 of 26
although it sounds like a horrible expereince, it also sounds like you handled it pretty well. i would have been crying, maybe screaming, and would have probably ended up sedated or something.

i am glad that is all over for you and you don't have to go back.

did you get all the medical forms you needed filled out that day so you don't even have to go back for that?

i can't believe they want you to come twice as much since you started going in "late" must be all about the money!
post #9 of 26
Yuck. Get your ultrasound and get out ... I wouldn't go back to that OB unless you had no other choice. Glad you found a UC friendly midwife to help you out!
Good luck!
post #10 of 26
OMG. :Puke I am so sorry you had to put up with that. I can't believe that OB still has clients with that kind of attitude. Actually, sadly, I can believe it. It's so sad and wrong that that has become normalized Glad you got through it ok!
post #11 of 26
Awww, I'm sorry this happened to you. This sounds like several of my OB appointments. I have had doctors laugh in my face and nurses write in sharpie on my charts that I am uncooperative. It sucks and I actually broke down in the parking lot at the last place I went to. I felt so violated.

I can't understand why people put up with this crap... Why aren't more people upset that they are being treated like cattle??

Right now, I'm dodging the midwife at the practice I have been going to. It has been 4 weeks since my last appointment and they have me due next week (although it is really this past Sunday . They called three times yesterday and I just don't want to deal with them. I know they will want to induce, test, and generally be a pain in my rear.

None of this should have to be necessary... I can't stand the proof of pregnancy rules.. arg! I do hope you feel better. Take comfort in knowing that so many of us have been there.
post #12 of 26
Is it normal to strip down to absolutely nothing for a PAP? Am I the only one who finds that extremely violating and wrong? You're expected to be completely naked (top and bottom) around people you barely just met? What about that is okay? Because they are supposed medical "professionals"? That means nothing!

I am shocked.

I could say a LOT more about how deeply sickening I find the above to be, but no need to go more off-topic than I already have.


Back to the original topic:

I am so sorry that you were treated so....inhumanely (to say the LEAST). Asking you if three pregnancies makes you an "expert"? HELL YES it does. You are expert of your own body, not doctor GOD there. And most likely you are more of an expert on pregnancy and birth than he is. Doctors (especially calloused, know-it-all ones like him) don't seem to know sh** about those things. Otherwise birth would be very different in this country. To say the LEAST.

I am so disheartened for you.




You're not going back for the US just because they told you to, are you?
post #13 of 26
That is horrible. Doctors can be so violent. It sounds like they treated you violently. If you can I would never go back there. Sorry that happened to you.
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Grylliade View Post
Is it normal to strip down to absolutely nothing for a PAP? Am I the only one who finds that extremely violating and wrong? You're expected to be completely naked (top and bottom) around people you barely just met? What about that is okay? Because they are supposed medical "professionals"? That means nothing!

I am shocked.

I could say a LOT more about how deeply sickening I find the above to be, but no need to go more off-topic than I already have.


Back to the original topic:

I am so sorry that you were treated so....inhumanely (to say the LEAST). Asking you if three pregnancies makes you an "expert"? HELL YES it does. You are expert of your own body, not doctor GOD there. And most likely you are more of an expert on pregnancy and birth than he is. Doctors (especially calloused, know-it-all ones like him) don't seem to know sh** about those things. Otherwise birth would be very different in this country. To say the LEAST.

I am so disheartened for you.




You're not going back for the US just because they told you to, are you?

I am not having the US just because they are telling me to. I just have come to the point where I want to see for myself that baby is healthy, with all the limbs and organs where they are supposed to be. ~ I really should not watch TV, there are so many scary things that can happen~ It is more to just have it proven that baby is healthy and that I am making the right decision I can.
post #15 of 26
sorry you had to put up with
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Happiestever View Post
I am not having the US just because they are telling me to. I just have come to the point where I want to see for myself that baby is healthy, with all the limbs and organs where they are supposed to be. ~ I really should not watch TV, there are so many scary things that can happen~ It is more to just have it proven that baby is healthy and that I am making the right decision I can.
Good luck, mama. I hope you won't have any more hassles.
post #17 of 26
for future reference for all, we can always refuse any "policy" that a doctor holds.

i grant you that you have to be tough as nails and sweet as pie to get what you want, but just keep asserting this: "becaues it is policy" doesn't answer the underlying reason for this action. when you can give me a logical and medical reason for it, then i will consider it."

honestly, i've had to do this more than once, and ultimately, they give in to me. on rare occassions, they have convinced me that their way makes sense, but i often make a separate appt for it.

when oin to any doctor for the first time, i make a "consultation" appointment. this is a "talking only, no tests or examinations" in order for me to meet hte doctor, talk abuot my needs (e, i need this paperowrk filled out), and to ask questions about his/her practice.

i am still lookin for a gyn for my well woman care (mine left the state--it's bad here), and i've interviewed 7 in my network so far. i haven't been examined by one of them.
post #18 of 26
My last OB told me "this is the standard of care - if you don't want that, there are places I can send you" yikes ... I thought it was a little harsh considering I just wanted to skip the glucose test ... because I had no risk factors for GD.
Ultimately I gave in, because it seemed like she was going to drop me as a patient if I refused.
This time around, I picked a doctor who has a reputation for being more accommodating to his patients' wishes.

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Originally Posted by zoebird View Post
for future reference for all, we can always refuse any "policy" that a doctor holds.

i grant you that you have to be tough as nails and sweet as pie to get what you want, but just keep asserting this: "becaues it is policy" doesn't answer the underlying reason for this action. when you can give me a logical and medical reason for it, then i will consider it."

honestly, i've had to do this more than once, and ultimately, they give in to me. on rare occassions, they have convinced me that their way makes sense, but i often make a separate appt for it.

when oin to any doctor for the first time, i make a "consultation" appointment. this is a "talking only, no tests or examinations" in order for me to meet hte doctor, talk abuot my needs (e, i need this paperowrk filled out), and to ask questions about his/her practice.

i am still lookin for a gyn for my well woman care (mine left the state--it's bad here), and i've interviewed 7 in my network so far. i haven't been examined by one of them.
post #19 of 26
THIS is exactly why I chose to UP. I was seeing midwives at a hospital for a few visits and and u/s and the letter "proving" I was pregnant. Dumped them at 20 weeks. I was surprised at the amount of push back about my refusing tests! I wouldn't even pee in a cup for them and the were shocked when i refused the doppler. Not agressive or rude like your Drs office but Surprising none the less. Just push um through the system and get on with the next specimin. I can't believe I put up with that kind of treatment (and worse with previous drs) for two pregnancies. Horrifying. Sorry they were so awful!
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by Serenyd View Post
My last OB told me "this is the standard of care - if you don't want that, there are places I can send you"
Talking to you like you are under their control. Nice.

No, it should instead be "there are plenty of other OBs that I can choose instead of you". I think these medical "professionals" forget that a person is paying them for a service. If that service is not satisfactory then they should not be tolerated. Instead it is the other way around and the patients are the ones being treated like they being are tolerated. BS. If that's the case, then the doctor can start paying for the visits. If a patient is paying for a service then they ought to get what they are paying for and none of "fancy" extras that are pushed (forced?) on a person once they are held hostage in the exam room.

Paying a doctor for a service should not be any different than hiring a mechanic, contractor, etc. If it is not what you are paying for then either complain or fire them.
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