how to report a vacinne injury

[MommyHawk]

does anyone know where is best to report a vaccine injury? I have a very good suspicion that a vaccine injury killed Andrew. No one will listen to me. I need to find someone who will.

Thank you.

[MyLilPwny]

I'm sorry about the vaccine-induced death, very sad VAERS is taking reports of all adverse events "even if you are not sure whether the vaccine caused the adverse event" https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index

I've seen often times people make a web site or blog with circumstances surrounding the event to help spread the word and see if anything similar happened to others.

I know there are web sites you can report the story to also, like www.thinktwice.com

[thereiderfamily]

SUDC just baffles me. It's really terrifying. Although rare, I have a hard time understanding why it has only shown to occur to those children over 12 months and under 3. Why does it stop there? Why aren't there cases scattered here and there of children of all ages? What's significant about this age range? I was reading that they are finding a history of febrile seizures in 70% of the children. Either a history themselves - or the parents had a history of them. Are febrile seizures exclusive to children under 3?

Like SIDS, I suspect that vaccines play role in the majority of cases.

I hope that your friends do pursue reporting this at least to VAERS. Also, they should know that there is only a 3 year window from the time of injury to take their case to vaccine court. And to do so, they will need to hire an attorney.

[thereiderfamily]

Also wanted to mention that when reporting to VAERS - try to include as much information as possible, including vaccine manufacturer and lot number. VAERS is also a good starting place to keep your eye out for other parents/doctors reporting death or adverse reactions like seizures and encephalitis from the same lot number.

[~Charlie's~Angel~]

Originally Posted by MommyHawk

does anyone know where is best to report a vaccine injury? I have a very good suspicion that a vaccine injury killed Andrew. No one will listen to me. I need to find someone who will.

Thank you.

O.M.G! MAMA, is this fairly recent? Im in shock that your even coherent enough to type. My stomach flip flopped when i read your post, and then i saw your siggy.

I don't have any advice, just lots and lots and LOTS of HUGZ!!!!!! and even more PRAYERS!

[MommyHawk]

this was a child of a friend who passed...and I spent so much time with the child that I saw a MARKED difference in the child's behavior from the day he was vax'd with three shots - Flu, DTaP, MMR - back last Nov...the fact that I recall that day says a lot, and that he was never the same child since, A LOT more...

Now that he passed...and with NO REASON being to blame, my mind keeps shifting back to that day...and all the signals and signs and times I spoke about his changes and my concerns...I have said everything short of "Something was wrong with your child the day he got those shots and he was never the same since"....

Understandably the family continually denies that anything was wrong. I am not his mother although I did spend a great deal of time with him and was there when he died. I can't do the reporting, but if I find a way to get through to them and they want to go that route, I wanted to know where to direct them to...

I don't know what else to do. I totally understand how fragile they are at this time...but then again, I think I know something that no one else is considering...SUDC doesn't cut it for me. I think that and SIDS is a bunch of crap to cover up the truth...

[~Charlie's~Angel~]

Wow. How did he die though? I mean, did they just wake up one morning to find him gone? This is just so tragic. If they werent up on the controversy of vaccines before his death, it is probably safe to assume they are to shell shocked to think anything of it now. If that seed of doubt was already there, then maybe................

How tragic. My heart is just breaking, BREAKING! My baby is 2, I cannot immagine loosing him, AT ALL. Prayers for everyone~!

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by Barbie64g

Wow. How did he die though?

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...549&highlight=

OP, I'm so sorry (HUGS)

[MommyHawk]

Originally Posted by Yulia_R

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...549&highlight=

OP, I'm so sorry (HUGS)

thanks for finding it...this is why I love MDC mamas...always there for each other...

[mattemma04]

It has been ages since I looked at the VAERS and NVICP pages,but those are 2 places to read through. It is important that they have copies of all medical records before they even bring up vaccine induced death,because medical records have a way of disappearing,or getting changed once you start talking about vaccines.

And a lawyer is a must.The NVICP is notorious for turning down most injury and death claims.


It is understandable that the parents don't want to look into it.It is mentally safer to not know than to realise a choice you made may have harmed your child.Hugs for them.We all want the best,but sometimes a choice made results in injury or death.If I remember correctly the cap pay out for death from vaccine used to be 250,000.Not sure how they ever came up with that amount for the life of a child,but that is what it used to be.Proving vaccine death is VERY hard.

[BarnMomma]

HUGS TO YOU OP

A very similar thing just happpened in our life as well, but to a coworker. My thread was locked but as it turns out, the father of the baby who passed came to my husband (his boss) and said he feels it was vaccines that killed his son. We are going to gently encourage him to report to VAERS. It might not erase their grief but it might help them to help others.

[KimberlyD0]

I think it should be the parents who report it anyway. Since they're the one who know full details its best for them to report it. Plus what if they feel its not a vaccine related death?

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

I think it should be the parents who report it anyway. Since they're the one who know full details its best for them to report it. Plus what if they feel its not a vaccine related death?

anyone can report a vaccine injury. If the OP feel this is something she needs to do, than she should.

[KimberlyD0]

Originally Posted by Marnica

anyone can report a vaccine injury. If the OP feel this is something she needs to do, than she should.

Doesn't that unbalence the results though since its not a first hand account? Its basically hear say, which is not all that dependable.

I would be more inclined to suggest it to the parents, we don't want fake reactions being mixed with the real ones.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

Doesn't that unbalence the results though since its not a first hand account? Its basically hear say, which is not all that dependable.

I would be more inclined to suggest it to the parents, we don't want fake reactions being mixed with the real ones.

why would you assume that because a person other than a parent reports a reaction that the reaction is "fake" ??? and if you read her story about what happened her account is first hand if I remeber correctly she was there.

Lots of people SHOULD report vaccine reactions (including medical doctors) and don't which is why the overall percentage of reports only reflects 1-10% of actual reactions. While I agree it would be best for the parents to report as they have have information the OP doesn't have like lot # etc, but if they do not want to or refuse, I see no reason why she can't.

[anj_rn]

[QUOTE=thereiderfamily;14528694]SUDC just baffles me. It's really terrifying. Although rare, I have a hard time understanding why it has only shown to occur to those children over 12 months and under 3. Why does it stop there? Why aren't there cases scattered here and there of children of all ages? What's significant about this age range? I was reading that they are finding a history of febrile seizures in 70% of the children. Either a history themselves - or the parents had a history of them. Are febrile seizures exclusive to children under 3?
QUOTE]

Febrile seizures are usually associated with high fevers. Most children will run higher fevers when they are younger, thus it is rare for febrile seizures to be diagnosed after a child is 3 years old. Most parents of children with febrile seizures will medicate with ibuprofen/tylenol eraly to prevent the fever from getting too high.

Basically, like SIDS, it is a diagnosis of exclusion. The medical community does not know what happened, and the autopsy did not reveal a specific cause of death. If it occurs under 12 months, it is labeled SIDS.

[Turquesa]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

Doesn't that unbalence the results though since its not a first hand account? Its basically hear say, which is not all that dependable.

I would be more inclined to suggest it to the parents, we don't want fake reactions being mixed with the real ones.

But if you read the post that the OP linked, she personally witnessed his death and is more qualified than anybody to describe the symptoms and circumstances leading up to it. So it would be very much a first-hand account.

MommyHawk, forgive me if I'm crossing any lines here; you don't have to answer this. Did his parents order an autopsy done, and do you know the results? If so, that could be important information to include in the report. I have a two-year-old, so it was really hard for me to hear about this loss. I'm so sorry.

[KimberlyD0]

Originally Posted by Turquesa

But if you read the post that the OP linked, she personally witnessed his death and is more qualified than anybody to describe the symptoms and circumstances leading up to it. So it would be very much a first-hand account.

MommyHawk, forgive me if I'm crossing any lines here; you don't have to answer this. Did his parents order an autopsy done, and do you know the results? If so, that could be important information to include in the report. I have a two-year-old, so it was really hard for me to hear about this loss. I'm so sorry.

But she is NOT the mother. She is a care provider. For me its not the same.

This would make me question it because I want to hear the PARENTS take on the situation. If THEY feel this was vaccine related THEY should report it. If they don't then no one else should (unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was, which you can't)

I would be ticked if someone reported something that happend to MY child without MY permission if they were not in a medical position. Specially in regards to vaccines. Example, my child is deleyed, she is fully vaccinated, she's prone to febrile seizurs, she gets them often (because she is sick a lot, due to her medical condition) if someone reported one of these seizures as a vax related injery I would be angry, because its NOT.

This would make me NOT trust VAERS

[anj_rn]

Originally Posted by Turquesa

MommyHawk, forgive me if I'm crossing any lines here; you don't have to answer this. Did his parents order an autopsy done, and do you know the results? If so, that could be important information to include in the report. I have a two-year-old, so it was really hard for me to hear about this loss. I'm so sorry.

Per her previous thread, and autopsy was completed and did not reveal a obvious cause of death, thus the SUDC diagnosis. In order for VAERS to investigate, she would need to know the name and contact information for the pediatrician, and what vaccines were given at the visit. She would also need to know the contact information for the hospital where he was taken.


I think you have to follow your hear, but I agree with the pp, if I did not want to file a report, and someone filed one for my child, I would be angry.

[amnesiac]

Originally Posted by MommyHawk

I can't do the reporting, but if I find a way to get through to them and they want to go that route, I wanted to know where to direct them to...

Questions regarding who can file reports and what should be reported can be found here:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/about/faqs

My heart goes out to you. You are a good friend. Be gentle with yourself and with your friends.